[diutuartina]

I am on VLCD4 and have lost 7.8 lbs. I'm feeling pretty well although I have occasional pangs of hunger that come and go randomly throughout the day. I find I am always hungry about 10 minutes after I eat but it goes away eventually. ANYWAY...not the reason for my post. Like most of you, I will have lots of family around and a big Christmas celebration on Christmas Day. I would like to say that I won't cheat and I guess I'm not technically planning on it but I want to be prepared in case it happens. I don't want to fight with myself all day and beat myself down because I want a cookie. Keeping in mind that IF I cheat, I will be moderate...is there a way that will cause the least harm? Like taking less/more drops that day, making adjustments the day before and after? Can someone give me some advice on this? Christmas Day will be my VLCD16. I have 2 work Christmas parties to attend, a cookie exchange at church, a baking day with my sisters, and 4 Christmas celebrations to attend.... I feel like if I know that I have 1 day dedicated to cheat I can be strong throughout the rest of the holiday season. Thanks in advance for any feedback and opinions!

[VFOVkZBj]

I am on VLCD4 and have lost 7.8 lbs. I'm feeling pretty well although I have occasional pangs of hunger that come and go randomly throughout the day. I find I am always hungry about 10 minutes after I eat but it goes away eventually. ANYWAY...not the reason for my post. Like most of you, I will have lots of family around and a big Christmas celebration on Christmas Day. I would like to say that I won't cheat and I guess I'm not technically planning on it but I want to be prepared in case it happens. I don't want to fight with myself all day and beat myself down because I want a cookie. Keeping in mind that IF I cheat, I will be moderate...is there a way that will cause the least harm? Like taking less/more drops that day, making adjustments the day before and after? Can someone give me some advice on this? Christmas Day will be my VLCD16. I have 2 work Christmas parties to attend, a cookie exchange at church, a baking day with my sisters, and 4 Christmas celebrations to attend.... I feel like if I know that I have 1 day dedicated to cheat I can be strong throughout the rest of the holiday season. Thanks in advance for any feedback and opinions!

Hmmm... I don't recommend it....
However, if you have been on the diet for at LEAST 20 days, you COULD try a planned interruption. You would still have to do the 72hours of VLCD and NO hcg as you transition into p3..though I don't recommend high carb/sugar crappy food during that time... you could make some of your own treats! like chocolate covered strawberries (with coconut oil, cocoa, stevia) or "donut holes": dates, almond flour, cinnamon mashed up or in food processor, make into balls, then roll in unsweetened coconut shreds.

It's up to you... Good luck and Happy Holidays!

[Plonnikas]

A planned interruption is a minimum of 23 days on hcg so it's too soon to do that. There is no way to minimize the damage. You can plan on no losses for 3 days and it might take you as much as a week to get below what you were before the cheat. there's no way to tell for sure. the best you can do is to eat no fruit or breadsticks on Christmas and hope for the best.

[derty]

A planned interruption is a minimum of 23 days on hcg so it's too soon to do that. There is no way to minimize the damage. You can plan on no losses for 3 days and it might take you as much as a week to get below what you were before the cheat. there's no way to tell for sure. the best you can do is to eat no fruit or breadsticks on Christmas and hope for the best.

Hmmm... some folks say 20 and some say 23 some say 26 ....nonetheless, I didn't notice she said X-mas will be VLCD16 ... far too soon for an interruption!!

[Trercakaressy]

Pounds and Inches says 23 days. I always follow the actual protocol.

[Goooooblin]

So it looks like there is no way to tell what the outcome of cheating would be and its too risky. Straight as an arrow, it will be. This is too important for me to take chance of losing all of the hard work.Thanks for the input.

[loan4younow]

A planned interruption is a minimum of 23 days on hcg so it's too soon to do that. There is no way to minimize the damage. You can plan on no losses for 3 days and it might take you as much as a week to get below what you were before the cheat. there's no way to tell for sure. the best you can do is to eat no fruit or breadsticks on Christmas and hope for the best.

Why no fruit? What about if it was strawberries or apples?

[gamecasta]

No fruit on a CHEAT day. Fruit has lots of carbs and if she's going to eat a cookie (carbs) then try to not eat any other carbs to minimize damage.

[twiffatticy]

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[Civilrecordzz]

So it looks like there is no way to tell what the outcome of cheating would be and its too risky. Straight as an arrow, it will be. This is too important for me to take chance of losing all of the hard work.Thanks for the input.

Very wise decision! Good luck fighting the temptations.

[Rchzygnc]

Yes but 20 effective injections is 23. The first three injections are ineffective according to Pounds and INches. I think that's where a lot of people get confused. Heres what P and I says:

We distinguish between the first three injections, which we call “non-effective” as far as the loss of weight isconcerned, and the subsequent injections given while the patient is dieting, which we call “effective”.

So 20 effective injections is 23 injections total.

[Ganoshenko]

Yes but 20 effective injections is 23. The first three injections are ineffective according to Pounds and INches. I think that's where a lot of people get confused. Heres what P and I says:

We distinguish between the first three injections, which we call “non-effective” as far as the loss of weight isconcerned, and the subsequent injections given while the patient is dieting, which we call “effective”.

So 20 effective injections is 23 injections total.

I can read P&I a bazillion times and come out of it with something new each time.

[PlayboyAtWork]

I know! And you know what I just discovered in looking up the quote? This:

Theaverage loss of weight is calculated on the number of effective injections and from the weight reached on theday of the third injection

He calculated weight lost based on EFFECTIVE injections average.

[jesyflowers]

No fruit on a CHEAT day. Fruit has lots of carbs and if she's going to eat a cookie (carbs) then try to not eat any other carbs to minimize damage.

Are you not supposed to eat fruit at all on P2? I thought a handful of strawberries is fine?

[Seesspoxy]

So what is your analysis of this part form Pounds and Inches "Unforeseen Interruptions in Treatment":

"Interruptions occurring before 20 effective injections have been given are most undesirable, because with less than that number of injections some weight is liable to be regained. After the 20th injection an unavoidable interruption is merely a loss of time."

Is he saying that if you suddenly MUST do an interruption, then it has to be after 20injections, but no more than 20 injections? I think this is part where some folks get confused.

Thanks for your input!

[Dwerfsd]

Yes but 20 effective injections is 23. The first three injections are ineffective according to Pounds and INches. I think that's where a lot of people get confused. Heres what P and I says:

We distinguish between the first three injections, which we call “non-effective” as far as the loss of weight isconcerned, and the subsequent injections given while the patient is dieting, which we call “effective”.

So 20 effective injections is 23 injections total.

OH! never mind! I just saw this quote you posted
It's been a long day and week!

[Sheelldaw]

Are you not supposed to eat fruit at all on P2? I thought a handful of strawberries is fine?

P2 allows two servings a fruit per day.... grammy was just saying on A CHEAT DAY to skip the fruit...

[immelawealecy]

P2 allows two servings a fruit per day.... grammy was just saying on A CHEAT DAY to skip the fruit...

Ah ok.

[icerrelmCam]

How about if you are in round 2 and over 23 days? Better to stop drops or keep going if you want to eat carbs on your break?

[avaiguite]

You can't eat carbs on your break without regaining everything. Trust me on this. I've been on the forum three years and I see it over and over. When you go off the hcg, your hypothalamus starts working again. It's crucial to follow the P3 eating or the weight will just pile back on. You will have wasted your 23 days.