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Old 05-26-2011, 07:53 PM   #21
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Does anyone know if peanut butter is allowed? Sorry, I'm trying to make a grocery list for P3 as I'm starting soon, lol.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:53 PM   #22
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P3 really is pretty easy as far as what is allowed...its just each individual may have certain foods they are sensitive to.

Look up all the p3 recipe threads here.

My birthday was in P3 this year....had shish kaboobs, yummy salad, cauliflower with gruyere cheese casserole thing, and sugar free cheesecake
sugar free cheesecake sounds delicious, did you make it, or buy it?
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:59 PM   #23
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:30 PM   #24
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No peanut butter unless you find one with no sugar. If you haven't done so before, P3 will teach you to read labels. Every label. P3 is so important in order for your body to stabalize. Say goodbye to those pounds for good! Read the P3 threads for more info and read those labels! Good luck.
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Old 05-27-2011, 04:42 AM   #25
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Do you know what is allowed on P3? Not sounding snarky, was just surprised by some of your responses. All you have to do is no sugar, no starches. Stay away from the starchier veggies, and the more sugary fruits.

Some of my favorites are muffins I make with almond flour. I will try and find the post. I have an apple spice, blueberry, and chocolate version.
Apple with almond butter (make sure your good with almonds). I also mix almond butter with cream cheese and a touch of stevia and salt, dip with apples.
chocolate delight
heavy cream in coffee
homemade protein shakes with heavy cream
there are recipes out there for potatoe salad subbed with cauliflower
I have a really good recipe for b-b-que sauce sweetened with a diet rootbeer or diet cherry dr. pepper
Good luck!
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:42 AM   #26
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I can't believe we're allowed to have mayo, I thought forsure that was one of the worst things in the world as far as unhealthy eating habits. I love mayo though, so I'm pleasantly surprised. I wish we could have potatoes in P3 bc I love making potato salad from scratch with potatoes, eggs, onion, celery, and mayo.
just make your potato salad with cooked cauliflower (not over cooked, just till tender), or steam cauliflower and then mash as you would potato...you'd be surprised how much you don't miss potato
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Old 05-30-2011, 01:01 AM   #27
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Do you know what is allowed on P3? Not sounding snarky, was just surprised by some of your responses. All you have to do is no sugar, no starches. Stay away from the starchier veggies, and the more sugary fruits.

Some of my favorites are muffins I make with almond flour. I will try and find the post. I have an apple spice, blueberry, and chocolate version.
Apple with almond butter (make sure your good with almonds). I also mix almond butter with cream cheese and a touch of stevia and salt, dip with apples.
chocolate delight
heavy cream in coffee
homemade protein shakes with heavy cream
there are recipes out there for potatoe salad subbed with cauliflower
I have a really good recipe for b-b-que sauce sweetened with a diet rootbeer or diet cherry dr. pepper
Good luck!
well I just figured mostly everything was a carb, and I was told no carbs. thanks though!
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:21 AM   #28
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P3 is NOT no carbs..it is no Sugar and no straches..Veggies are carbs, Fruits are carbs. Who told you no carbs? Did you read the protocal? You had carbs on p2 if you ate the fruit and veggies.

No sugar means you read ingrediants, you can find sugar free mayo (best foods has sugar), sugar free peanut butter, SF Bacon, SF Lunchmeat (Deitz & Watson)..etc.

Once you know the rules (2 rules..no sugar/no starch) there is sooo much food on P3 to eat that no sugar and no starches is easy. The only thing I find is that it can be a little rich. My favorite meal is chicken wings ith rach, turkey rolled up with pepper jack cheese and avo or a BIG salad. Good luck on finding your favorites
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:10 PM   #29
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P3 is NOT no carbs..it is no Sugar and no straches..Veggies are carbs, Fruits are carbs. Who told you no carbs? Did you read the protocal? You had carbs on p2 if you ate the fruit and veggies.

No sugar means you read ingrediants, you can find sugar free mayo (best foods has sugar), sugar free peanut butter, SF Bacon, SF Lunchmeat (Deitz & Watson)..etc.

Once you know the rules (2 rules..no sugar/no starch) there is sooo much food on P3 to eat that no sugar and no starches is easy. The only thing I find is that it can be a little rich. My favorite meal is chicken wings ith rach, turkey rolled up with pepper jack cheese and avo or a BIG salad. Good luck on finding your favorites
Thanks for the info, that's good to know.


In my booklet I got from the doctor, there is a list of carbs that it says I should avoid -- such as
-Bread, tortilla, rolls
-Cookies, Chips, Crackers, any kind of munchies or snack foods.
-Breakfast cereals, pancakes, waffles..
-Rice, Pasta
-Potatoes, yams, or dough of any kind
-Corn, peas, carrots, beet root
-Honey / Maple Syrup
-Fruit juice concentrate
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:02 AM   #30
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Oh my gosh, there are so many delicious P3 foods! My faves from my last round: Taco salad (ground turkey cooked with spices, onions, and tomatoes and served with spring mix, roasted red peppers, salsa, avocado, and sour cream); Fage mixed with unsweetened cocoa and Truvia or Xylitol; cocoa crack with almond butter in it; turkey burgers with cheese, lettuce, tomato, avocado, and mustard; salad with grilled chicken, tomato, roasted red peppers, avocado, and blue cheese dressing; egg salad made with sugar free mayo (I get mine at Trader Joe's).

As you can see, I'm a big fan of avocado and loved getting to eat it every day! I can't wait for P3 now that I've started remembering all those yummy foods. This time I'm going to try way more yummy recipes, like mug cake and cheese crust pizza. I'm also going to experiment with baking using almond flour and coconut flour. I can't wait. 3.2 pounds til goal and then it's P3 time!
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:43 AM   #31
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"You don't have to eat only P2 foods the first 2 days of P3. I add way more fats immediately: coconut oil, butter, etc. I usually add back cream in my coffee that first day too. If you add dairy the first day, eat it for 3 days and watch the scale before you add in eggs or nuts, the other two danger foods. But add in different veggies like green beans, mixing your veggies for salad, that kind of thing. No need to stick to P2 protocol. I usually limit my fruit to one a day the first week. Good luck!" - Grammy

Avoid eggs, cheese and nuts the first few days to see where your weight “lands”.
If you want to be really cautious, back off those 3 foods for a couple of days and see where your weight is, then add one of those foods for 3 days in a row and see what happens to your weight. Stop eating that one and add another. By adding those 3 foods one at a time and for 3 days, you generally can figure out if you're going to have a problem with one of them. Other foods you can add more quickly.

Eggs and cheese are tricky. It is best to start with meats/veg/fruits for a few days and see what your weight does. Then add EITHER eggs or cheese for 2-3 days (make that your only new food). If your weight stays stable, stop that one and try the other. If still ok, try them together. I recommend this because you could have a mild sensitivity that would not show up eating only one of them, but would when you have both. If you react to a number of foods, you may wish to have blood work done to test for food sensitivities.

What can you eat in P3? All meats and fish, eggs, all dairy including cheese, butter, oils. You may eat most veggies, except for starchy ones like corn and peas. You may have most fruits- but be cautious in the beginning with the sweeter fruits such as melons and bananas. Nuts are also allowed, but I'd add these slowly- some people have difficulty with them (which may be due in part to the salt). No bread, baked goods, cereal, rice, potatoes, pasta, candy, deserts.

Some people can eat low-carb foods such as low-carb tortillas. You have to judge this for yourself. Dr. S. says "no starch", but these kinds of foods were not available when the protocol was written. I choose not to use the “low carb” options in P3, just to be safe. Many low-carb or low-sugar foods have sugar alcohols in them. Although still carbs, they have less affect on your blood sugar than other types of sugars. Some people tolerate them well, others don't. Personally, I find sugar alcohols make me react pretty much the way sugar does- they cause me to crave more sugar, cause me to retain water, and anything other than small amounts may also cause diarrhea.

When I see people reporting their menus, it usually looks like they are not eating enough fruits and vegetables. Eggs, meat, cheese, dairy, nuts are all ok- but all are also high in fat. Dr. S. says that if you avoid the "so-called carbohydrates" that you may eat fats "somewhat more liberally". Since we're eating no added fats in Phase 2, I don't believe this is an endorsement to eat a high-fat diet. This may cause some people to gain, so be careful. Veggies and fruits have lots of needed enzymes, provide necessary fiber, and will help fill you up.

LIW (last injection weight) or LDW (last drop weight) is the weight you are on the morning of your last dose of Hcg. You may lose a little more during those last 3 low-calorie days, but the object of P3 is to stabilize - so you should not allow your weight to go more than 2# above your LIW. If you weigh yourself one morning and you are more than 2# above your LIW, this is when you would do a steak day. You eat nothing all day until dinner, although you may have as much coffee, tea and water as you like. Then you eat a huge steak, along with either a raw tomato, or an apple. This will help to bring your weight down the following morning. If you find your weight creeping up but it is not high enough to do a steak day, try a day where you eat only protein. This should also bring your weight back down.

When you have taken your last dose of Hcg, you must then do an additional 3 days (72 hours) of the very low calorie diet. The following day, is the first day of Phase 3. This is the "no sugar, no starch" phase, and this continues for 3 weeks.

Dr. S. contradicts himself a bit as to when to start P3. Most people start 72 hrs after their last shot, some people wait a full 3 days, which would be 96 hrs. If you choose 72, I'd recommend going ahead with greater quantity of P2 foods, and maybe adding in a couple of eggs for breakfast. But personally, I'd avoid adding in any fats until the next day. Dr. S. states that your body will be very sensitive to fats as long as there is even a trace of Hcg in your system.

Eggs and cheese are tricky. It is best to start with meats/veg/fruits for a few days and see what your weight does. Then add EITHER eggs or cheese for 2-3 days (make that your only new food). If your weight stays stable, stop that one and try the other. If still ok, try them together. I recommend this because you could have a mild sensitivity that would not show up eating only one of them, but would when you have both. If you react to a number of foods, you may wish to have blood work done to test for food sensitivities.

When you start phase 3, don't go hog-wild all at once. Your body will be happier if you slowly increase the amount of food you're eating. Many people start by eating phase 2 foods, but just increasing the amounts. Be careful of low-fat or fat-free processed foods- these almost always have lots of added sugar. You may go back to using lotions and your regular cosmetics on day one of P3.

e.g. Start with dairy. Try the Heavy Cream & butter (milk products) for 2 days and see if there's a reaction (weight gain), then add eggs for 2 days and see if there's a reaction (weight gain)... I recommend this because you could have a mild sensitivity that would not show up eating only one of them, but would when you have both. If you react to a number of foods, you may wish to have blood work done to test for food sensitivities.

Do NOT try to stay on a low-calorie diet, without the hcg. That will cause edema (water retention) due to protein deficiency, and you will actually gain weight. Make sure you add at least one additional serving of protein per day; some people recommend doubling your protein.

Most people stabilize 3-4 lbs up from LIW.

Water -
You should be drinking half your weight in ounces. If you are drinking considerably more than this, then you could be defeating the purpose:

Drinking too much fluid won't slow your losses or make you stall but it can lead to electrolyte imbalance with muscle spasms, weakness, etc. So that's what I was talking about. And strangely enough, when you drink TOO much it strips your body of too much fluid when the electrolytes get out of whack and then you're thirsty all the time, drink more water and and it just continues the cycle. - Colleen

A note on starches: No starches allowed on P3. No ADDED sugar (not in the ingredients + no more than 2 grams per serving).
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:45 AM   #32
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Here's a list I've compiled of P3 safe hard-to-find foods:

BACON
Market Pantry Reduced Sodium (Target store brand)
Safeway Select Reduced Sodium (Safeway store brand)
Albertson's Reduced Sodium (Albertson's store brand)
Kroger Reduced Sodium
Jimmy Dean Reduced Sodium
Kirklands Low Sodium Bacon
Gwaltney (Walmart)

SALAD DRESSING
Newman's Own Olive Oil and Vinegar
Marie's Blue Cheese (found in the refrigerated section)

YOGURT
Mountain High Original Plain
Dannon Natural Vanilla (ck no sugar)
Stonyfield Organic Plain, (Cream Top, Low-Fat, and Fat Free)

GREEK YOGURT
Fage Plain, (all fat contents)
Oikos Plain
Chobani Plain, (all fat contents)
Voskos Plain, (all fat contents)

SOUR CREAM
Daisy (full fat and light)

MAYONNAISE
Duke's Regular Mayonnaise (rocks!)

Almond Flour (Bob's Mill, amazon). www.elanaspantry.com – Honeyville almond flour 5lbs for $35 http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bla...dflour5lb.aspx Hazelnut Flour would work too.

Xylitol Powder - http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/e...ci_sku=KA-1201 the regular xylitol is rather grainy, but still tastes like real sugar (not kidding... REALLY tastes like sugar!)

www.MiracleNoodle.com
Miracle Noodle coupon code enter - 767
I haven’t tried these. Some people like them, some don’t.
They are P3 friendly.

Sample Menu
Breakfast: 1 cup of greek yogurt with stevia and berries (blueberries, blackberries or strawberries)
2 eggs with cheese (sometimes with sauteed veggies)
four cups of coffee (I KNOW, too much!) with stevia and 100% cream
I sometimes will have 2 cups coffee and the yogurt/fruit, go for a 2 mile walk, then come back and make the eggs and have more coffee.
That usually keeps me really full until about 1 or 2, then I eat lunch:
Either a grilled chicken salad, cobb salad, or cheeseburger with salad with blu cheese dressing (sometimes a double cheeseburger), no bun. Sometimes the chile with veggies in it, cheese and sour cream on it.
Snack:
handful of non or lightly-salted almonds or 2 oz. cheddar cheese
Dinner:
Sometimes I’m so full from all of that, I just eat some more cheese, or I have the equivalent of another cheeseburger and a salad.
Last night, I just had some cheese and mugcake - yum!
I have TONS of water throughout the day.

Hints & Tips

Eat fruit and veggies every day
Cook your meats/fish in healthy oil, such as coconut oil or olive oil
Do not count calories
Do not stuff yourself, rather eat until you are reasonably full.
Don't cheat at all, i.e., Do not have anything with added sugar or starch
Never eat anything 2 - 3 hours prior to going to bed
Drink lots of water
Use Peter Gillman's Natural CALM magnesium every day to keep the plumbing moving (can buy on-line or health food stores) or have a one minute muffin (recipe later)
Going out? Try Mexican and do fajitas with no tortillas.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:46 AM   #33
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Eat Freely (but watch for allergens & added sugar!) –


sunflower seeds
almonds
nut butters
(other than cashew and peanut)
hamburger
roast beef
pork
turkey
fish & seafood
raspberries
strawberries
blueberries
green beans
broccoli
squash
peppers
heavy cream (least added sugar)
cheese (feta is the safest to start... or so I've heard)


The following "do not eat" list is much more helpful, because there really is a never ending list of things you CAN eat on P3.


Do not eat on P3 –

Acorn Squash
baked goods
bananas
Beans
Biscuits
Bread
Breaded foods
Brownies
Buns
Butternut squash
Carrots
Cakes
candy
Canned fruit
cashews
cereal
Chocolate
Cookies
Cool Whip
Corn
Corn chips
Corn meal
Corn syrup
Crackers




Cornstarch
Cupcakes
desserts
Bagels
Donuts
Energy drinks
Dried fruit
Mangos
Fast food
Frosting
Fruit juice
Grains (wait a minute... isn't flaxseed a grain? we can have flaxseed meal - GOLDEN is best)
Granola
Honey
Hot dogs
Ice cream
Ketchup
Kool-aid
Lentils
Maple syrup
melons
Muffins
Oatmeal



Pancakes
Parsnips
Pasta
Pie
peas
Peanut butter
Plantains
pineapple
Pita bread
Polenta
Popcorn
Potato chips
Pretzels
potatoes
Pumpkin
Pudding
Rice
Rolls
Root Vegetables
Taco shells
Tortillas
Velveeta
White flour
Winter Squash
Yams

Work into diet (may contain allergens) -
Meat
Maries Blue Cheese Dressing
Fage
Berries
Butter
Heavy Cream
Eggs
Cheese (try feta first)
SF Mayo (Dukes)
Nut butters – get the BEST here: https://valleynut.storesecured.com/
Stay away from cashew and peanut until P4.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:47 AM   #34
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My favorite things are poached salmon, avocado, scrambled eggs with smoked salmon, cobb salad, and butter. Okay, butter isn't really a meal in itself, but I do love butter.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:38 AM   #35
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Great info!
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:22 AM   #36
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Oh my gosh, there are so many delicious P3 foods! My faves from my last round: Taco salad (ground turkey cooked with spices, onions, and tomatoes and served with spring mix, roasted red peppers, salsa, avocado, and sour cream); Fage mixed with unsweetened cocoa and Truvia or Xylitol; cocoa crack with almond butter in it; turkey burgers with cheese, lettuce, tomato, avocado, and mustard; salad with grilled chicken, tomato, roasted red peppers, avocado, and blue cheese dressing; egg salad made with sugar free mayo (I get mine at Trader Joe's).

As you can see, I'm a big fan of avocado and loved getting to eat it every day! I can't wait for P3 now that I've started remembering all those yummy foods. This time I'm going to try way more yummy recipes, like mug cake and cheese crust pizza. I'm also going to experiment with baking using almond flour and coconut flour. I can't wait. 3.2 pounds til goal and then it's P3 time!
I will definitely be over for some P3 foods you have cooked up. Sounds so yummy! !! Lol

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Old 05-31-2011, 10:59 AM   #37
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P3 Bourbon Chicken http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...00002175741328

Today's Chocolate Almond Crunch P3
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater


P3 Cinnamon Swirl Bread
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

P3 Coconut Almond Drops
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:20 PM   #38
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Does anyone know of any brands of cottage cheese that are approved? My doctor told me cottage cheese was allowed but unfortunately my favorite brand has sugar in it
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:55 PM   #39
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Does anyone know of any brands of cottage cheese that are approved? My doctor told me cottage cheese was allowed but unfortunately my favorite brand has sugar in it
Does it have sugar listed in the ingredients, or is it from the naturally occurring sugar in milk? I've never seen cottage cheese with sugar in it, unless you're talking about the fruit-added kind.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:29 PM   #40
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I find fats are really satisfying on p3. Hamburgers with a little more fat content than on p2, wrapped in romaine lettuce with mayo/mustard/sweetener mix, even with grilled vidallia onions inside the wrap. Yumm. It almost taste decadent after p2. You could do the same, but with bacon as the protein, and tiny tomatoes in the wrap. Same with rotesserie chicken, pulled off the bone, some skin included, and bleu cheese dressing on top. You can't feel deprived on that. Want something sweet and creamy, how about Full Fat Fage (Greek yogurt) mixed with unsweetened Hershey's chocolate syrup, taste almost like a chocolate mousse. P3 is a wonderful place to live!
I agree...I love P3 and with all of the blogs out there for low carb and sugar free living...there is never a need to feel deprived...and for that sweet tooth....you have got to check out http://www.healthyindulgences.net/ or http://dreamaboutfood.blogspot.com/ - I love P3 and will stay here forever - no more yo yo dieting for me!
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