[POMAH_K]

My first and second round I did not exercise however my scale shows an increase in muscle percentages. It was brought to my attention to check the pounds and not percentages so I did and found that yes I gained pounds in muscle while on hcg. Please check out the formula I used that I found on ehow.com.

http://www.ehow.com/how_7790692_meas...bone-mass.html


The information I found about hcg and muscle growth is totally remarkable.

I recommend everyone google hcg and muscle growth to do some research how it works. There was one muscle guy who lose 20 pds of fat in 20 days while doing the hcg diet on only 500 calories and yes he gained muscle in pounds. He calculated and recorded his body fat and muscle numbers every day.

Yes, there are body builders out there who do only 500 calories to lose some fat and yes they do gain muscle in pounds.

I previously was thinking the reason why it worked for me is because prior to hcg I was storing everything to fat. Things were not working properly in my body. The first day I took hcg, I felt so calm and peaceful all over but mainly in my entire back area. I suspect my body was finally working in harmony. It was truly amazing.
I think it fixed my body in more ways than one and it also helped to gain muscle.

The hcg stimulates the hypothalamus to balance itself. It does also stimulate muscle growth even on 500 calories a day. It also has muscle sparing effects.

I am going to try to gain as much muscle now that I am in p3 so that I can begin next p2 with more muscle to help burn even more fat among the other benefits.

I may have to increase my protein in p2 depending on how my body handles the exercise. I will keep it steady entering p2 and for sure not exercise more. Take it one day at a time.

Everyone's body is different.

[spoddersedpn]

I go every few weeks to the clinic where I started HCG injections...not sure if I am doing intramuscular or subcutaneous. I just inject in my upper thighs. After first round of HCG I lost about 30 lbs and not sure if I gained muscle pounds but did not lose muscle mass based on their measuring guide. It did show substantial loss of visceral fat which is the bad fat around my organs. First week of June I started round 2 to lose remaining excess weight. I should start working out but with travel etc. just haven't disciplined myself yet.

[SpyRemo]

If hcg stimulated muscle growth, then every pregnant woman would end up loking like the hulk. Your percentage of lean mass may get bigger just because your percentage of fat mass shrinks.

Hcg is a tool, but it is not a magic wand with magical properties. The real magic happens in your head when you see the pounds come off and know that you can do it, that you can change your eating style, that you can reach for something and just maybe get there. There may even be some balancing of other hormones that takes place with hcg and/or the release of adipose (fat) tissue.

[kristloken]

Like I said before, if you aren't excercising, and deliberately doing less even (you said), you will not gain muscle. It is impossible.

[Iphone]

I have heard that it's good for muscle growth and have heard that it's one of those no no drugs for athletes, probably because it's used in combination with steroids. I'm no doc so I can't say anything either way. I've actually read about a guy that claimed he could never produce muscle mass that made him look "cut" until he started HCG. Since it increases the production of testosterone it's a possibility that it helps in muscle growth.

Here is an interesting article http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hcg.html

[adolfadsermens]

Hcg does not directly increase testosterone.

Hcg is used by bodybuilders post cycle, or mid cycle, for the guys that use steriods alot and often, to bring the testes back to their normal size.

Remember, the testes produce testosterone, and during the time where a person adds synthetic testosterone to the body, the testes shut down. They can then shrink, and it is believed that they are not as effective at productung testosterone in their smaller size, so hcg stimulates lutenizing hormone, and that stimulates the leydig cells in the testes. They grow backto normal size, and when a steroid user goes off the steroids, their body is in a better position to "turn back on"

It is also used for people who suffer from hypogonadism ( underdeveloped testes), as it can stimulatetheir growth and function, therefore increasing testosterone production.

Hcg in men has been shown to increase estrogen levels in the body, however, but depending on level of estrogen sensitivity, it may not cause any issues.

That's some of the basics.

[soineeLom]

I wouldn't have thought it was possible before, but now I do. I saw a documentary on the BBC that I posted on here a while back. Doctors studied a dozen young adults that no matter what they ate claimed they could not gain weight. They feed them 5,000-10,000 calories a day, with no exercise for a month. After a month almost all of them gained various amounts of weight, the highest being 15lbs, the lowest around 5lbs and one person gained 10lbs of only muscle. Even without exercise, this guy's body converted the foods he ate not into fat, but into muscle. Now, I think anything's possible. If it wasn't a BBC produced documentary, I wouldn't have believed it. You can find it on YouTube or look through my posts. It's something like, "Why do Skinny People not get Fat?" or something like that.

Granted, the stats are that only one guy out of a dozen this happened to.

[wizardasa]

I did my numbers and yes I did gain muscle slowly throughout the two rounds with zero exercise. If you think about it, you are eating protein every day two times a day with the meat and vegetables on the vlcd. Well, even if you don't exercise you are using your muscles to walk, type on the computer, etc.. So, if you had a problem prior to hcg where your body was mostly turning what it ate into fat and once on hcg it starts working in harmony and more effective. Then you can see how it is possible to gain muscle without exercise.
By the way, I am type O blood and did not eat meat every day. On the hcg I ate meat every day, twice a day. There are many people who increase muscle just by increasing protein intake.

I know that alot of you don't believe it. I was baffled too. All I can tell you is that I am not lying. I have tracked my percentages weekly for fat, muscle, water & bone mass. When I did the numbers I gained 4.03 pounds in muscle since I started. For sure I did not bulk up. I notice my legs more toned but it could be that there is less fat. I was cautious on p2 to not exert myself, for example I would not give my niece a piggy back ride. However, I do walk leisurely thirty minutes several times a week as recommended.

The reason why I started this thread was not to debate the subject but to encourage everyone to exercise on p2 and to track the numbers. I thought exercise was not allowed on p2, I wasted two rounds with no exercise. I can not go back into time but I can encourage others so they do not make the same mistake I did. For me, finding these numbers motiviates me to exercise more. Exercise, will only help us to maintain our weight, be healthier, reduce stress etc. etc. etc.

They only thing to keep in mind is that protein may need to be increased in p2, depending on your stamina. Everyone is different so there is no exact formula. You need to listen to your body.

[P1international]

I did my numbers and yes I did gain muscle slowly throughout the two rounds with zero exercise. If you think about it, you are eating protein every day two times a day with the meat and vegetables on the vlcd. Well, even if you don't exercise you are using your muscles to walk, type on the computer, etc.. So, if you had a problem prior to hcg where your body was mostly turning what it ate into fat and once on hcg it starts working in harmony and more effective. Then you can see how it is possible to gain muscle without exercise.
By the way, I am type O blood and did not eat meat every day. On the hcg I ate meat every day, twice a day. There are many people who increase muscle just by increasing protein intake.

I know that alot of you don't believe it. I was baffled too. All I can tell you is that I am not lying. I have tracked my percentages weekly for fat, muscle, water & bone mass. When I did the numbers I gained 4.03 pounds in muscle since I started. For sure I did not bulk up. I notice my legs more toned but it could be that there is less fat. I was cautious on p2 to not exert myself, for example I would not give my niece a piggy back ride. However, I do walk leisurely thirty minutes several times a week as recommended.

The reason why I started this thread was not to debate the subject but to encourage everyone to exercise on p2 and to track the numbers. I thought exercise was not allowed on p2, I wasted two rounds with no exercise. I can not go back into time but I can encourage others so they do not make the same mistake I did. For me, finding these numbers motiviates me to exercise more. Exercise, will only help us to maintain our weight, be healthier, reduce stress etc. etc. etc.

They only thing to keep in mind is that protein may need to be increased in p2, depending on your stamina. Everyone is different so there is no exact formula. You need to listen to your body.

I beleive you. i benched pressed 87% of my body weight two weeks ago. first time in the gym in 5 years. no ramp up no training just walked in and loaded up 225 punched one out added another 90 and went to failure.

hows that for muscle

[DOWNLOADnowADOBEphotoSHOP]

Very good

[LoohornePharp]

I did my numbers and yes I did gain muscle slowly throughout the two rounds with zero exercise. If you think about it, you are eating protein every day two times a day with the meat and vegetables on the vlcd. Well, even if you don't exercise you are using your muscles to walk, type on the computer, etc.. So, if you had a problem prior to hcg where your body was mostly turning what it ate into fat and once on hcg it starts working in harmony and more effective. Then you can see how it is possible to gain muscle without exercise.
By the way, I am type O blood and did not eat meat every day. On the hcg I ate meat every day, twice a day. There are many people who increase muscle just by increasing protein intake.

I know that alot of you don't believe it. I was baffled too. All I can tell you is that I am not lying. I have tracked my percentages weekly for fat, muscle, water & bone mass. When I did the numbers I gained 4.03 pounds in muscle since I started. For sure I did not bulk up. I notice my legs more toned but it could be that there is less fat. I was cautious on p2 to not exert myself, for example I would not give my niece a piggy back ride. However, I do walk leisurely thirty minutes several times a week as recommended.

The reason why I started this thread was not to debate the subject but to encourage everyone to exercise on p2 and to track the numbers. I thought exercise was not allowed on p2, I wasted two rounds with no exercise. I can not go back into time but I can encourage others so they do not make the same mistake I did. For me, finding these numbers motiviates me to exercise more. Exercise, will only help us to maintain our weight, be healthier, reduce stress etc. etc. etc.

They only thing to keep in mind is that protein may need to be increased in p2, depending on your stamina. Everyone is different so there is no exact formula. You need to listen to your body.

You just walked?

[Arr34ston]

nania- unless you were measured before and after in a bod pod, a dexa scan, or by underwater weighing, you can't make this claim. both scales and calipers are horribly inaccurate, and the scales are very influenced by how hydrated you are. unless you're an incredible fluke of nature you are not going to gain muscle, any amount, while being sedentary on P2. it's just not going to happen- you're much more likely to lose it.

i know you believe it, and that's fine. but i've been on here for 2 1/2 years and i've not seen one person gain muscle mass while on P2. some have maintained their muscle mass, and others have lost large amounts of muscle.

[lesso73]

I don't believe anyone loses muscle on this protocol unless the hcg isn't working for them. I know you think they do, Margie, but I've seen no evidence of it at all.

[2CNWXAqN]

I don't believe anyone loses muscle on this protocol unless the hcg isn't working for them. I know you think they do, Margie, but I've seen no evidence of it at all.

How many people actually test it? I know I lost muscle because I work out and pay attention to that kind of stuff, but how would I know if I didn't watch that kind of stuff?

[Stainditnew]

Most people can tell by what they can and can't do. By how easily we can lift things, how far we can walk, etc. And we've had some who have actually tested it. And Pounds and Inches says multiple times that all that is lost is abnormal fat, and I believe it. Dr S did way more testing than any of us have ever done.

[Daruhuw]

so should do a stk day and what does that mean. can i do coffee water . sorry just dont have anyone but you guys

[77chawzence]

I have a Denise Austin dvd that I exercise to and prior to hcg I used 3 pd weights. Today was my first time doing this video since I started and honestly the 3pd weights were too light. I ended up switching to the 5 pd weights. I was thinking I only gained some muscle in my legs but it looks like my chest, back and arms did get stronger.

[Bigroza]

so what do i do with the 4lb gain in 3 days on p3.afraid to eat

[LoveTTatall]

I noticed that too, Nania. I walk with 5 pound weights and they aren't heavy enough now.

Miss burt, you need to go to the urgent questions thread and tell us what you're talking about. We don't have any idea whether you should do a steak day. We don't know what is going on.

[Cgnebksb]

Ugh...I do not for one instance believe that you gain muscle doing nothing on this protocol unless you are adding extra protein or other things to your diet.

I also believe 100% that you lose muscle. It might and I say might become reformed as you go through the diet but you do Not gain muscle.

Quelson, I think that is great that you were able to lift that amount of weight. Are you continuing to lift or was it a one time deal?

Because of my experience with lifting and losing you will never convict me that you gain muscle on the "right dose"' or by doing nothing.