[HedgeYourBets]

Shocked, shocked I tell you....

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133349

From news article:
(IsraelNN.com) The B'Tselem organization has issued a report contradicting IDF casualty reports from Gaza. The group claims that 773 civilians were killed in Operation Cast Lead earlier this year, while only 330 of the dead were involved in fighting. A second report, from the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, backs the IDF.

The IDF, on the other hand, has reported that 1,166 Gaza residents were killed in Cast Lead, 709 of whom were involved in fighting. The IDF counted 295 civilian casualties, and an additional 162 men who may or may not have been involved in fighting.

In writing its report, B'Tselem considered 248 Hamas “policemen” who were killed in Cast Lead to be non-combatants, because, having been killed at the beginning of the operation, they took no part in combat during the three weeks of fighting. The IDF listed any armed member of Hamas as a combatant, including police.

[9mm_fan]

I have never, in my life, heard of a conflict so freaking documented. What are they going to do next? Photograph every shot to make sure?

[9mm_fan]

These "NGO's" have got to do something with all that European funding.

[Peptobismol]

Ah, Betzelem's report, IDF's report. Does it really matter? The question to ask is what the hell was Israel to do after being bombarded with missles on their civilian population for eight years by an entity (Hamas) that has no regard for their own kids' lives, let alone Israel's? According to the "enlightened" liberals of the world, Israel should have just sat back and let the missles keep coming. What was the proportion of non-combatant deaths in the Blitzkreig on Germany, not to mention Hiroshima or Nagasaki? I guess World War II should have just kept going on as well

[Drugmachine]

I think you give them too much credit. I think it's more insidious than being useful idiots. I think there's a streak of out and out hate at work.

[softy54534]

What I've seen over the years is that the communities are deliberately divided politically into two groups that fight each other. There is no middle ground.

In general people have been conditioned not to lead and be involved in the government but to let the government lead them. It's easier. There is a big middle ground that has no clue what is going on. They let whoever is running the government take care of everything for them. Their world is so full of sports, entertainment, food, school, volunteer work, whatever, that they have no clue what is going in the state capital, in DC or what is going on internationally. One exception. If it touches them personally, they may get involved.

Then you have the activists on the right and left. They do not read each others' literature, articles, magazines, and if anyone tries to add some balance by presenting the other side, they are demonized. Both sides demonize each other and that is growing with major verbal abuse mainly coming from the left.

What's the game? Well, when activists on both sides are busy going after each other, no one is really watching the store, so to say. As they said about news in the Former Soviet Union, there was so much material available that people didn't know what was missing.

An interesting turn on this is what is happening in the majority Jewish community now, a community that is quite liberal. To get some conflict going, a further left element is introduced and given publicity. As a side note, with exceptions such as Midstream, Commentary and a small Jewish paper in Indiana, I've found no Jewish publications with neutral information on what the conservative political movement is about.

The publicized groups on the activist right and left are generally not analyzed. All that's reported is what they are saying. Not the group size, not their activities, not their leadership, not their links. Think how little was presented to the general public about ACORN which is a huge, leftist organization, closely tied to a major union and which is tied to the top of the political spectrum. On the right, who is reporting what CNP is up to.

If you want to find out why an organization is attacking Israel's chances for survival, dig deep and don't just read what's reported.

[Lt_Apple]

that's exactly the point... there was nothing else for Israel to do but bleed and die. But the world wants Jews to simply die.