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Old 01-28-2006, 04:22 PM   #1
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Islam, in its contemporary form, is emerging into one of the greatest forces of evil ever to distress this planet. It has/or will soon exceeded the combined evil of a dying republic (USA), the evil of a dying Marxist state (the former USSR), the evil of the emerging Marxist superpower (PRC), and the evil of last century's European Fascism/Nazism. Islam is on a collision course with destiny that will soon make it the most hated and hideous entity on the face of the Earth. Right now, many countries are making concessions to the various secular and fundamentalist Islamic states, for as many reasons as can come to ones imagination. It does not really matter what issues Muhammad or the Quran have spoken about, any new radical Islamic leader will twist the words and find the reason to justify some new form of hideous, inhumane, "Islamicly justfied" crimes against humanity. World leaders keep tripping over their own histories and remake the same mistakes that caused some of the pasts' major wars and conflicts. The issue of "land for peace" concerning the state of Israel smacks of similar claims made by Hitler on the European Continent in the last century. Islam makes spurious claims, and the world steps back and declares the claims valid, even when the claims are against all reason. There's nothing really new here. I believe that the leaders in the US are way behind the learning curve on this one, but the EU and the PRC may be able to survive the continuing onslaught by this insidious new evil that has aspirations for world domination. Soon the remaining powers on this planet will have to stand together to resist the evils of the contempory Islamic leadership, much in the same way the evils of the regimes of the Kaiser, Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, et al were resisted; all out war. At this point in time, there has not arisen an "ism" so evil that a wholesale "ethnic" type of cleansing would be a part of its "doctrine" in all countries and on any continent that would be under its strict authority. That would be the termination or enslaving of anyone, anyplace in the world of those who would not accept Islam's "doctrines." Islam represents the only "ism" that is capable of this behavior toward their fellow man, because this behavior can be justified "somewhere" in its most "sacred" writings. It would be better to resist this evil now as people of the free world, than to try to overthrow this evil as a subject of an enslaved world. If Islam wants to be known as a religion of peace in todays world, then it is free to bring forth the fruits of peace right now, and it will truly be accepted as a religion of peace. Idle rhetoric stands for nothing. If Islam wants to claim that such a peace can only be achieved in a totally Islamic world, then the world had better get ready to deal with Islamic leaders as the liars and deceivers that they have proven themselves to be in this contemporary world. Islam has the ability to be the greatest movement for peace or evil in the history of this planet. Right now, I don't observe any significant movement toward peace. In the eyes of many in the world today, Islam stands for all that is evil; despite its flowery rhetoric. Just my opinion!!!
Marxism was an idealogy.

Islam is a religion, over 1400 years old, and getting stronger day by day. It will never be "defeated". People choose to follow it in every country in the world.

Islam is not your enemy Varian. You are seriously misinformed.

Not only the Quran, but The Prophets of the Bible foretold that all the nations of the world will acknowlege and worship the one true God (Isaiah 11.9, 45, and Zephaniah 3),
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:39 PM   #2
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Marxism was an idealogy.
Religions are also a form of ideology.

Islam is a religion, over 1400 years old, and getting stronger day by day. It will never be "defeated". People choose to follow it in every country in the world. A while ago, the same could have been said about fascism. That's no refutation.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:41 PM   #3
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How can you say that for certain when the Hadiths vary between Muslins, and their interpretations? How can you say that at all in the context of the current world crisis, when there are Muslims telling you, and telling us, differently? That's the problem with your statement. It's not that we haven't all been over this a billion time, or wouldn't like to believe you, but much of the Koran is left to deductive reasoning from poetics. There are verses which are incredibly open and positive, even bordering on Zionism.... but in the next breath there are some very anti-semitic statements. Unfortunately, moderate Islam is so busy worrying about the outside view of Islam, that we're left to negotiate our peace treaties with those who disagree with you, who interpret the Koran to encourage their anti-Jewish actions. You'll hear this argument again, and again, and it's not coming from a bias against your religion, so much as a recognition of what's being taught by your clerics, imams, and other leaders.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:25 PM   #4
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Marxism was an idealogy.

Islam is not your enemy Varian. You are seriously misinformed.
Yechezchial 38

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Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say unto Gog: Thus saith the L-rd GOD: In that day when My people Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
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And thou shalt come from thy place out of the uttermost parts of the north, thou, and many peoples with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company and a mighty army;
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and thou shalt come up against My people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the end of days, and I will bring thee against My land, that the nations may know Me, when I shall be sanctified through thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
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Thus saith the L-rd GOD: Art thou he of whom I spoke in old time by My servants the prophets of Israel, that prophesied in those days for many years, that I would bring thee against them?
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And it shall come to pass in that day, when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the L-rd GOD, that My fury shall arise up in My nostrils.
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For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath have I spoken: Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
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so that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep upon the ground, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at My presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
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And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the L-rd GOD; every man's sword shall be against his brother.
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And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will cause to rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many peoples that are with him, an overflowing shower, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
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Thus will I magnify Myself, and sanctify Myself, and I will make Myself known in the eyes of many nations; and they shall know that I am HaShem.


Yechezchial 39

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And thou, son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say: Thus saith the L-rd GOD: Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal;
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and I will turn thee about and lead thee on, and will cause thee to come up from the uttermost parts of the north; and I will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel;
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and I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.
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Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the peoples that are with thee; I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort and to the beasts of the field, to be devoured.
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Thou shalt fall upon the open field; for I have spoken it, saith the L-rd GOD.
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And I will send a fire on Magog, and on them that dwell safely in the isles; and they shall know that I am HaShem.
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And My holy name will I make known in the midst of My people Israel; neither will I suffer My holy name to be profaned any more; and the nations shall know that I am HaShem, the Holy One in Israel.

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Behold, it cometh, and it shall be done, saith the L-rd GOD; This is the day whereof I have spoken.
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And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall make fires of the weapons and use them as fuel, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the hand-staves, and the spears, and they shall make fires of them seven years;
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so that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests, for they shall make fires of the weapons; and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the L-rd GOD.
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And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place fit for burial in Israel, the valley of them that pass through on the east of the sea; and it shall stop them that pass through; and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude; and they shall call it the valley of Hamon-gog.
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And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying them, that they may cleanse the land.
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Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them, and it shall be to them a renown; in the day that I shall be glorified, saith the L-rd GOD.
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And they shall set apart men of continual employment, that shall pass through the land to bury with them that pass through those that remain upon the face of the land, to cleanse it; after the end of seven months shall they search.
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And when they that pass through shall pass through the land, and any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-gog.
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And Hamonah shall also be the name of a city. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
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And thou, son of man, thus saith the L-rd GOD: Speak unto the birds of every sort, and to every beast of the field: Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to My feast that I do prepare for you, even a great feast, upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh and drink blood.
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The flesh of the mighty shall ye eat, and the blood of the princes of the earth shall ye drink; rams, lambs, and goats, bullocks, fatlings of Bashan are they all of them.
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And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of My feast which I have prepared for you.
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And ye shall be filled at My table with horses and horsemen, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the L-rd GOD.
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And I will set My glory among the nations, and all the nations shall see My judgment that I have executed, and My hand that I have laid upon them.
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So the house of Israel shall know that I am HaShem their G-d, from that day and forward.

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And the nations shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity, because they broke faith with Me, and I hid My face from them; so I gave them into the hand of their adversaries, and they fell all of them by the sword.
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According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions did I unto them; and I hid My face from them.
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Therefore thus saith the L-rd GOD: Now will I bring back the captivity of Jacob, and have compassion upon the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name.
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And they shall bear their shame, and all their breach of faith which they have committed against Me, when they shall dwell safely in their land, and none shall make them afraid;
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when I have brought them back from the peoples, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations.
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And they shall know that I am HaShem their G-d, in that I caused them to go into captivity among the nations, and have gathered them unto their own land; and I will leave none of them any more there;
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neither will I hide My face any more from them; for I have poured out My spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the L-rd GOD.'

Please forgive my former Christian (now contemporary backslider) roots, but the above passages describe what many believe to be an aliance between Marxism and Islam. In particular, the aliance between "Marxist" Russia, N. Korea, PRC and Islamic Iran. If Islam truly believed the "Jews" were the people of "The Book," then there would be no dispute over the temple Mount in Jerusalem, because all Muslims would want to go out of their way to restore the race called to be a "priest to/for all nations" to the means of fulfilling that sacred calling from HaShem. Instead of doing so, Islam is trying to impede the Jews from fulfilling this role to the point of total annihilation.
Perhaps this Muslim hoard that you dangle as a veiled warning before all the world, is destined to meet their "Waterloo" in the very near future. The "many peoples with thee sound like all the Muslims that want the extermination of the worlds Jews. If they are taken away, then even you will be able to live in peace. The hooks are already in the jaws of the forsaken. Islam shall not supercede Judaism. Your barking at the wrong god!!!
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:19 AM   #5
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There must be some important codewords in there for folks such as yourself to draw those conclusions. Me? can't make heads or tails of it.
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Old 02-02-2006, 12:02 PM   #6
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Marxism was an idealogy.

Islam is a religion, over 1400 years old, and getting stronger day by day. It will never be "defeated". People choose to follow it in every country in the world.

Islam is not your enemy Varian. You are seriously misinformed.

Not only the Quran, but The Prophets of the Bible foretold that all the nations of the world will acknowlege and worship the one true God (Isaiah 11.9, 45, and Zephaniah 3),
Once again, an attempt is made by the vilest of individuals to link filth with Judaism. THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP HERE.

Just because mohammad was trying to court jews into accepting his as the one true prophet. Islam is not getting stronger every day. Strength lies not in numbers but in the goodness of its deeds. islam is a hateful idelogy pandered to by filth. it will meet its demise.

islam is the enemy of everything decent and civilized. mercifully, a lot of folks are finding this out for themeselves. the moronic europeans who invited this filth in their midst have been the first to taste this hatred and filth. once the oil of the vile sauds runs out, so will the european propensity to put up with this .

it really pains me when scum try to link islam to judaism. there is no linkage, no relation.

Judaism is the very anti-thesis of islam. mohammad as has been proven many times was a thief, rapist and murderer. filled with lust and hatred. so is the filth that he has propounded.

It may not happen in our lifetimes, but with the way islam is behaving world-wide, the day is not far away, when every civilized country in the world kicks these scum from their midst.
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