[Srewxardsasv]

Heavy metal!

[acceraStoof]

Originally posted by Fritz311:
The only metal i really like is Iced Earth. Those guys kick ass Iced Earth, is probably the best today. (as you can see...Iced Earth sig)

Anyways, let the god father of metal here clear things up.

Basically, Davion is right to an extent. Mainstream or Nu Metal is pretty much worthless, witht he exception of a very few bands (Slipknot, Mudvayne, Disturbed, Lamb of God, and to a lesser extent Metallica)

All the talent rides in the underground scene nowadays:

Iced Earth
Dimmu Borgir
Nocturnal Rites
Children of Bodom
Nightwish
Evergrey
3 Inches of Blood
Amon Amarth
Stratovarius
Slayer
Kreator
GWAR
Shadows Fall
Helloween
Immortal Souls
In Flames
Megadeth
Mayhem
Winter Solstice
Twelve Tribes
Trivium

Do I need to go on?

Now adays, Nu Metal bands do it all for the image
(Slipknot and their masks)while bands that actually posses the majority of the talent get left behind into nothing.

So if you couldn't tell I listen to Metal, and the bands I names above, along with several others are what I mainly listen to.

[Sadsidioribre]

GGGGGG G-Unit. I love rap music. And i occasionally listen to Guns N' Roses and Godsmack.

[Krruqgwt]

Spicolli: Oh come on ... Nightwish, with its simple, boring riffs and brutal vocals (it hurts!) are one of your favorite bands?

But... I agree. Korn sucks. Nu-metal in general sucks.

[SteantyjetMaw]

I listen to anything, depends what kind of mood I am in. I don't listen to country, metal rock, soul, and old music.

[spravka.ua]

Originally posted by Nabbe:
I always thought "Nothing Else Matters" was badly produced. Haven't heard the rest of the S/T album, but if it's all like NEM... I doubt I'd like it.

Anyway. Hammerhead, if you enjoy Slayer, you'll like Death Angel. "Act 3" and "Art of Dying" stands as their best albums, but "The Ultraviolence" and "Frolic Through The Park" are also worth checking out. Ill take a listen man. Thanks

[pipojambo]

I hate these music arguments. We all dont like the others music, were not gonna change. Metal heads hate rappers. Rappers hate metal head, its the circle of life lol

[intmarkworkk]

Originally posted by -=Davion Mc=-:
I'm mainly into the classics, from the days were talent got you futher than being marketable did. Bands that will never be forgotten, like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...a particular favourate of mine is David Bowie. That guy hast more talent than all of us, combined then multiplied to infinity.

But when it comes to MODERN music...99% of it is shit, but afew bands I do like are The White Stripes, The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand, and of course my number one band of all time

Muse.


So my tastes are alittle alternitive: The greatest bands from througout history, and whatever talent I can scourage from the modern music scene. Sadly there isn't much to scavage nowadays. That is actually rather like my own tastes, i like a lot of the 'oldies' and what not, like The Beatles, Led Zepplen(not a real big fan but a fan non the less), and also some Rock 'n' Roll, like from the late 80's early 90's, the early 90's more of the brit pop area but non the less,

the two i'm going to mention are The Stone Roses, out and out Classic, They put out an awsome debut album, not the greatest follow up, and i'll admit, i only got into them within the past year, after being coaxed into listening to them by my bro,

and the other is possibley my all time favourite band ever, Oasis, Straight up amazing, they put out possibley the greatest debut record of all time with Deffinetley Maybe, the songs on that album are awsome, from 'Rock 'n' Roll Star' to 'Live Forever' to 'Maried With Children', pure, and simpley, awsome, and then the follow up album, '(What's the Story) Morning Glory', that album, blew me away when i heard it, evry song on that album is just quality, pure and simple, i could go on but i'd take to long and its rather late were i am.

but Davion, when u say thaty 99% of Modern Music sucks, it is a bit off, its up there in the 90%'s for sure, but a tad lower, because look at all the class groups out now, The Killers, Snow Patrol, Franz Ferdinand, Kasabian, Razorlight, Maroon 5, Keane, theres many more, Oasis are putting out a new record which looks to be fantastic, ok, so there not really modern, but when you think about it, alot of the acts out now, Franz for one, Travis are bringing out a new record, U2 are back, and i've even seen from your(davions) msn name theres a new Muse song/record coming out, so Music is getting back to good

But there is still the point of dance and rave 'Music'(i am using that word losely), which frankly should be wiped of the face of the earth all together, and Heavy Metal i dont like either, but only the really heavy stuff, i can tolerate an amount of less heavy metal though

Okay, so i kind of trailed of a bit but i think you get the point i'm trying to make

[Ndptbudd]

METAL!!!!

[art_fan_12]

You know what's really funny about this. Megadeth and some of the other bands that were listed are not goth. I downloaded a few Muse songs, i just cant get into listening to it. As a matter of fact there are only a few bands that I can listen to for a while and not get bored and they are from all different fields of music. Just for example, I can listen to Ray Charles and then listen to Nirvana then listen to Slayer. None of the same genres of course.

To say metal band never get global recognition is false. Think about it for a second, what about Black Sabbath, what about Metallica. And its funny because you said in the other thread that Led Zeppelin is a metal band, and up above you said they were a band that will never be forgotten and you supposedly dont like metal, and cant listen to it, when you are a Zep fan

[ April 21, 2005, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: HammerHead ]

[hasasnn2345tv]

Originally posted by + razors edge 31773 +:
Originally posted by Spicolli Driver:
Originally posted by + razors edge 31773 +:
i disagree with the nu-metal metal stuff one of my favorite bands static x is nu-metal and they own No, they suck, and Korn sucks too. KoRn does not suck you f***nut they have sold millions upon millions of albums so has static x all metal fans should pick up some of these albums Just another MTV kid who thinks record sales can buy you talent.

Oh well, stick to that soft poppy/mainstream shit, I guess.

[ April 25, 2005, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Spicolli Driver ]

[HBPujWBe]

Yes, Davion, I am a confused human being, and I HATE YOU!

Come on. Give meg a fucking break.

But okay. We'll end our little discussion.

------

Cradle of Filth is goth. Type O Negative is goth. Moonspell is goth. My Dying Bride is goth.

When you're hating a genre, at least try to hate the right one.

[Michael-jeckson2]

God of metal. Okay.

...

You're a god of metal, and you claim that Nightwish, Dimmu Borgir, In Flames and others are... underground? Hell. You claim they're good. Both claims are moronic. Nightwish are big. Dimmu Borgir is big... they were on a prime time Norwegian talk show, because they sell more records world wide than any other Norwegian band. In Flames ... well... they're just shit-

You mention Mayhem, but fail to mention Immortal, who are superior to Mayhem in every way. I know you probably didn't plan on listing all the bands you feel are "underground" and good, but come on...

Slayer is underground? By 1995 they had sold 4 000 000 records. Man. That's underground!

I'm no metal head. I'm no expert... but neither are you... "god of metal".

[wepoiyub]

Originally posted by HammerHead:
Originally posted by -=Davion Mc=-:
Originally posted by HammerHead:
You know what's really funny about this. Megadeth and some of the other bands that were listed are not goth. I downloaded a few Muse songs, i just cant get into listening to it. As a matter of fact there are only a few bands that I can listen to for a while and not get bored and they are from all different fields of music. Just for example, I can listen to Ray Charles and then listen to Nirvana then listen to Slayer. None of the same genres of course.

To say metal band never get global recognition is false. Think about it for a second, what about Black Sabbath, what about Metallica. And its funny because you said in the other thread that Led Zeppelin is a metal band, and up above you said they were a band that will never be forgotten. Ah, you noticed the Led Zeppelin contradiction then? That was my idea of a little in-joke, just to show I don't actually take my opinions too seriously. I make ALOT of these jokes and if any bored sod was to look at posts of mine in different threads around the same time, they'd find them everywhere.

Anyway, I didn't say that a metal band has never gotten recognition, just one that I thought of as talented. Of course you could name Black Sabbith and such, but I guess I was blind to the bands of the past when I said that because my entire arguement was just how bad modern music is. I was more referring to the current metal scene. Sorry, as per-bloody-usual I forget a technicality and accidentally said something that was false. Exaggeration is partly to blame for this.

Anyway, I was more saying that to express just how little good bands are recognised nowadays. Who knows if there are metal bands today that are better than Black Sabbith? I don't, and that's exactly my point.
Then again, this has always been the way. Recognition does not coalate with talent. It's just that the current mainstream "hip" music is something that makes my eyes water it's so bad.

Again, I think the best way to solve this is to have the Punks come back and punch MTV in the balls. I see, I can understand how you hate hip-hop as I do too, but I wouldnt say they have no talent. As for the nu-metal, its okay, but not great. I mean I listen to SLipknot on occasion, Im not a fan of the lyrics but I like the drums. This also goes for Slayer.

Anyways, its not argument, its discussion. It was good while it lasted Urgh, people are still assuming that I'm saying Hip-Hoppers all have no talent. I swear, soon a hip hip fan is going to enter this thread and hate on me.

In my own little mind I like to seperate Hip Hop and Rap, Hip Hop being the sort of BLING BLING shiny ass rubbish with the occasional woman's orgasm thrown in, top of MTV playlist everyday bull-shite and Rap as some black guy with talent, rapping about SOMETHING over a beat.
Now, this segregation is incorrect but he helps me remember that dispite all the utter bullshit mainstream stuff, Rap still has SOME credability.

Oh, and seeing that on the rate the band above you topic I'm probably NEVER going to get a band I know to comment on, I'll reply to the Led Zeppelin comments here.

Strickly speaking Led Zeppelin WEREN'T a Metal band...but some of their stuff falls into the hazy catagory of metal, and seeing that they were masters of those particular songs...well hey, I needed SOMEWAY to plug Zeppelin into that thread. Your reply was funny though...

Jimmy Page gettting 8.5 out of ten. Now I won't say anything about people's opinions on music or ANYTHING...but SOMEBODY has to agree with me that thats quite silly.

5 out of ten for vocals is funny too, but perhaps Robert Plant is an aquired taste *shrug*

Oh and to get things clear I am NOT a massive Zep fan, I just wanted to pick something that wouldn't be ripped apart by rabid Metal fans. If I had mentioned my FAVOURATE artists, like Muse or David Bowie..I would have been in for a real butchering.


:EDIT:

Ah, you posted as I did Nabbe. Well, my comment on punks is exactly what your saying. Punks ARE dead, and everybody that calls themselves Punk now (americans, too!) are so completely off..it actually IS still funny.

I just think the good 'ole Punks had alot going for them, alot of hatred, emotion...jumping about. I'm not saying it's LIKELY, infact it's VERY unlikely, nigh on impossible but I'd love to see the punks come back. And punch MTV in the balls.

[ April 21, 2005, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: -=Davion Mc=- ]

[Zysyewgg]

You know... I have no problem with people not liking genres. I don't like hip hop, for example, but to claim that every band that plays music of the genre sucks... that is just fucking insane.

Slayer, Kreator, W.A.S.P, Black Label Society, Helloween, Immortal, Dissection, Vader, Morbid Angel, Bathory, Death, Death Angel, Megadeth, Evergrey, Mayhem, Judas Priest, Manowar, Motörhead... and the list goes on and on and on.

They're all good or great bands.

Now... in my opinion, The Beatles are mostly boring. Led Zeppelin is alright. Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of The Moon" is good.

The Strokes? Nah.

Franz Ferdinand? Nah.

White Stripes? Good enough. I like their stripped down style and Jack Whites vocal work, but I tend to tire before the album's done.

Muse? Oh. That's talent. It takes talent to bore a person to sleep when he's really not sleepy at all.

99% of modern music is shit? Bullshit. There's always been large amounts of crap, and there still is. But 99 fucking percent? Come on... That's load of crap and you know it. What's mainstream tends to be bad, but there's plenty of good music out there. Much better than that piece of shit favorite band of yours. Fuck. CREED is better than Muse.

I listen to music. Everything from Dylan to Anal Cunt.

[HaroldMY]

Originally posted by + razors edge 31773 +:
i disagree with the nu-metal metal stuff one of my favorite bands static x is nu-metal and they own No, they suck, and Korn sucks too.

[Sanremogirl]

You hate "metal screamo shit", but enjoy Axl Rose's brutal voice? Okay.

But lol i hate rap you know all black people waiving theri arms and zhit you know lol

[GaryBulguihb]

I enjoy plenty types of music, anything that has talent envolved, really. Thats why hip-hop and metal are two genres I can't stand. Bands that actually have talent in those two genres are few and far between, and none of them have ever gotten global recognition, and to be honest I don't really want to bother going digging.

I'm mainly into the classics, from the days were talent got you futher than being marketable did. Bands that will never be forgotten, like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...a particular favourate of mine is David Bowie. That guy hast more talent than all of us, combined then multiplied to infinity.

But when it comes to MODERN music...99% of it is shit, but afew bands I do like are The White Stripes, The Strokes, Franz Ferdinand, and of course my number one band of all time

Muse.


So my tastes are alittle alternitive: The greatest bands from througout history, and whatever talent I can scourage from the modern music scene. Sadly there isn't much to scavage nowadays.

[Thomaswhitee]

The only metal i really like is Iced Earth. Those guys kick ass

[Thomas12400]

Originally posted by -=Davion Mc=-:
Originally posted by HammerHead:
You know what's really funny about this. Megadeth and some of the other bands that were listed are not goth. I downloaded a few Muse songs, i just cant get into listening to it. As a matter of fact there are only a few bands that I can listen to for a while and not get bored and they are from all different fields of music. Just for example, I can listen to Ray Charles and then listen to Nirvana then listen to Slayer. None of the same genres of course.

To say metal band never get global recognition is false. Think about it for a second, what about Black Sabbath, what about Metallica. And its funny because you said in the other thread that Led Zeppelin is a metal band, and up above you said they were a band that will never be forgotten. Ah, you noticed the Led Zeppelin contradiction then? That was my idea of a little in-joke, just to show I don't actually take my opinions too seriously. I make ALOT of these jokes and if any bored sod was to look at posts of mine in different threads around the same time, they'd find them everywhere.

Anyway, I didn't say that a metal band has never gotten recognition, just one that I thought of as talented. Of course you could name Black Sabbith and such, but I guess I was blind to the bands of the past when I said that because my entire arguement was just how bad modern music is. I was more referring to the current metal scene. Sorry, as per-bloody-usual I forget a technicality and accidentally said something that was false. Exaggeration is partly to blame for this.

Anyway, I was more saying that to express just how little good bands are recognised nowadays. Who knows if there are metal bands today that are better than Black Sabbith? I don't, and that's exactly my point.
Then again, this has always been the way. Recognition does not coalate with talent. It's just that the current mainstream "hip" music is something that makes my eyes water it's so bad.

Again, I think the best way to solve this is to have the Punks come back and punch MTV in the balls. I see, I can understand how you hate hip-hop as I do too, but I wouldnt say they have no talent. As for the nu-metal, its okay, but not great. I mean I listen to SLipknot on occasion, Im not a fan of the lyrics but I like the drums. This also goes for Slayer.

Anyways, its not argument, its discussion. It was good while it lasted