[raspirator]

Some die with agony. Do you think those who die quietly are out of body at the time of passing?

You are quite right. There is no painless passing unless the soul has been given help from Spirit to leave ahead of bodily death. Even those in a coma feel that pain. However, when death is sudden it greatly reduces the degree of agony involved.

[chppjdf]

I'm not sure it makes much of a difference. Once the "cork" pops, it's all over but the shouting (mostly from surviving relatives). The peace comes from knowing we don't have to deal with any of that.

[Glanteeignile]

Some means of death do, indeed, involve much pain. Others do not. I nearly bled to death a couple of years ago. It was an odd sensation, but definitely not painful. I felt coldness, numbness, and some confusion, but it would have been quite easy to just release and drift off into the oddly comforting coldness. I imagine death by hypothermia is similar, and probably there are other means of dying that really don't involve pain.

I've read accounts of dying patients who are visited by spirits/angels who work with them to help them learn to escape their bodies in preparation for that final big step. I should think that would be a painless death, as well.

Mostly, I don't think it a good idea to dwell on the idea of death bringing agony. Each person's death is individual, unique and, from what I hear, a beautiful transition to something beyond.

[Metalhead]

I think that if one can accept that death is just a transformation, or another journey to be travelled, then the actual agony of "dying" is greatly reduced.
Yes, our body can feel pain of certain injury and disease, but if we are able to come to terms with that, and the eventuality of passing, the help and guidance of spirit will combat a lot of the pain we feel.

just my feeling on it.

Blessings

Papa Bear

[Diandaplaipsy]

Most deaths are painful, but that doesn't mean a person has to be in pain. The longer we practice the acceptance of the fact that we will someday die, whether that's tommorrow or in fifty years, we can be at peace when the time comes. I don't believe they are out of their body when dying, just that they learned not to identify with it any longer.

[LoloLibia]

Some die with agony. Do you think those who die quietly are out of body at the time of passing?

[r5YOPDyk]

When my mom passed we were told her B/P bottomed out,and she was unconsious after that.I hope she didn't feel any pain when she had to go.She'd been through enough in her lifetime.

[glamourcitys]

It was my understanding (belief) that many, maybe even most, deaths are peaceful. How about those who die in their sleep, for example? Perhaps they would have had a stroke, but didn't feel it.

Just my thoughts

[Pasy]

I agree with dailybitsofwisdom, I think if your times up just accept it and leave the body. I get the impression that suffering acures when people don't want to die and feel drawn to this world.

[xresultsearch]

When my mom passed we were told her B/P bottomed out,and she was unconsious after that.I hope she didn't feel any pain when she had to go.She'd been through enough in her lifetime.

She didn't. That's how I died and came back. I just fell asleep

[obegeLype]

From my understanding, dying hurts, not death. The separation of spirit comes before actual death and is painless.

The suffering of cancer or another long disease, that is the pain before hand. Actual death is pain free

[Frodogzzz]

I suspect that the majority of deaths are, in fact, fairly pain free. Sometimes the path that leads to death can be quite painful, but for many people it's much more gentle. We aren't all destined to die in a terrible accident, or from an aggressively painful disease. Quite a few people die in their sleep, or lose consciousness and never regain it.

I think it's a big disservice to portray death as an always excruciatingly painful event, as this must cause anxiety and fear for many people.

[casefexas]

I just had to add my experience with my father to this thread. He suffered from cancer for years before his death, but when his time came, his death was so very peaceful.

For at least a month or more before, he had an angel with him and he told us about her. He had visits from two little boys that sat on his bed and played and entertained him during those days he just layed in bed. We believe they were my twins that I lost, one as a miscarriage and one as a still birth, many years before. He had out of body experiences at night that he just could not explain and absolutely baffled him! His angel though, was always in the same spot, and he would just stare at her and smile on those days when he was slipping away.

He slipped into a coma 3 days before he passed, but woke up that last day and was very alert for about an hour. Enough time for all of us to talk and laugh, and for him to look out the bedroom window and say there's "old Sniffy", that was his dog when he was a young boy. I really believe Sniffy was waiting for him, just like my boys were waiting for him. He went back to sleep and that night he took his last breath with my Mom holding one hand and me holding the other. I can promise you, he was not in pain, he was not alone, and the journey he was taking, well I can't even imagine.

Sorry this got so long! Thanks for listening. I just want everyone to know sometimes death can be so peaceful, and what leads up to that time can be absolutely life changing.

Peace and Blessings To All,
Nadine