[Dumpishchaism]

i posted this in the dream thread, but was wondering, is this what it is like for everyone else too? or may i just be having the most crystal clear dreams ever, and because i remeber them so well just "think" it is astral travel?

here is the example......


well, astral travel is when you are basically wide awake, and remeber everything (even better actually) the way you remeber your day yesterday.

for me, it feels kind of like i am walking through a bubble mesh, with bubbles about the size of my nose, (and the bubles popping all over my body) when i am exiting my body. so if you feel like you "walked through" an invisible mesh, and then go where you want at will, clear as day, (like i will see the ground moving as if i'm in a low flying airplane if i go slow enough). some people will shake at first when they are on their way out etc (i only shook once).

but it is definatly not a dream then, and you know because you are fully awake, and usually find that you want to go look at things, because it is a lot cheaper and easier than actually flying there in a plane, but you can't take any pictures unfortunatly, lol.

also, it is kind of neat, that in this state you are kind of like a "ghost", because i tried to take a short cut through my neighbors house, but they have all kinds of charms etc to keep out ghosts, and i couldn't get through their house, but got "stuck" in the front garden, but other people down the road actually invited me into their house, but i never really go into peoples houses anyway, because you feel like you are intruding on their privacy, like with my neighbor who's garden i got caught in, i wasn't trying to "spy" but to cut through, but then you realize after you get used to it, that you can just go up and over.

for me "dreaming" is more like a movie, it cuts to other scenes, sometimes i am "in" the movie, people i know are "in" the movie etc....in astral travel, the only way you would see your friends is them sleeping in their bed, unless they are either astral travelling to meet you, or awake and unaware of you etc...but that goes back again to feeling like your spying, so you really don't do it if it dosen't feel right anyways....for me it seems creepy, so i leave my friends alone, and just concentrate on "places".

[steevytraunse]

melliasmouse, i will be interested in the other post.

first, what a wonderful experience. its gotta be fun, it was like you step into another world, but felt or sense the movement to the another location.... ghost/through neighbors..... like floating with no limits (walls, solid objects for say) not an immediate location change, but gradual.

i have related astral travel with a sense of flying. up / down, across with speed or not..... basically movement from 1 place to another... i have had this experience in my dreams and it has been quite fun.

i guess, as i type, it sounds much alike..i.e., astral travel, but also a bit of remote viewing, at least what i have read, learned (absorbed) about this .

[AngelBee]

so, this is different then dreaming in that you are aware and can decide and move on your own. i have had some very lucid dreams that seem pretty close to real but i have no will of my own in them.

[easypokergonj]

i posted this in the dream thread, but was wondering, is this what it is like for everyone else too? or may i just be having the most crystal clear dreams ever, and because i remeber them so well just "think" it is astral travel?

when i leave i roll out upwards facing myself instantly, this to me is what indicates if i'm simply dreaming or not. the realness being more potent than a dream is felt and observed instantly, there is no dout. mellisa, i feel the exact same way as you when noticing people while exploring. my very first feeling was an invasion of their free will. i feel like an intruder. once i was avoiding a group by going "up and over" but they noticed me, pointed at me. a million questions ran through my mind at that point, i'm still searching for some answers.
has anyone ever tried reversing straight up, through the roof, through the atmosphere keeping the earth in the field of view? has anyone ever tried continuing through the solar system, the sun gets smaller, the earth disappears, you reach a mid-point, should i turn back or keep going? somehow you feel you can find your way back, and just keep going. myself, what i do is i stay on a perfectly straight line, and my confidence that i can simply reverse the course and return home is what gave me the courage the first time. now i reverse out of the galaxy, i seem to speed up for a while, remember i'm still reversing and i maintain a straight line, i start feeling eons of emotions, subtle and soothing. i feel a call and start noticing a white light embracing me, i keep reversing till i reach a place that simply feels like home x 10 to the 9th power. it is simply amasing. i definately do not want to leave at first, but you realise that this place or state of being is not going to go away(or abandon you), i stay for while and absorb every moment. i feel like our journeys start from this place. so i gather up the courage to extend back down. i start slowly, feel like my heart gets torn appart wich prompts me to accelerate out of the light into the darkness. this is wher my line really comes in, i stick to my bearings keep flying through the void untill i see the milky-way in the far distance, i approach the solar system and start building up emotions which explode when i see the earth, nothing in the whole world could ever describe this feeling. what a sight, to see mother earth as a living being, to feel the life emminating from her is extreemly overwhelming. before anyone attempts such travels i suggest first rooting yourself with a strong sense of navigation or practice local travel, just don't spy on anyone:d ...sylvain....

[Extipletape]

i dont really understand the difference between astral travel and lucid dreams...

i will give you two exemples i experienced:

- in meditation: it starts like a dream and i talk to a friend, then a little girl appears at my side, and says: " in you future", in a smille. i ask: what? can you tell me more?, and the words i could apply to describe the folowing are just notexact... but it is when the second exemple begins, so

- i feel a bubbeling inside and it is as if lightness itself was... like flying but not in the same sense, in other words, like melting in the air, there and not there...

i heard no messages, no words... just feelings

or all this, was just delightful dreams... realy... i dont know

[OWV9LSxH]

so, this is different then dreaming in that you are aware and can decide and move on your own. i have had some very lucid dreams that seem pretty close to real but i have no will of my own in them.

i found that at first, i would simply wake up at will. this is how it started. see if you can stop your dream and wake up, maybe you have done this before. i worked on that and grew from there. eventualy i was able to resume my dream at will also, or continue a previous one. the abilities all started manifesting when i was able to pause in between waking up and sleeping. i would then return to sleep aware and concsious, free to explore at will all the faculties of the mind which seem soooooo dormant in everyday life. as a child i dreamed of one day wearing this array of divine power as a tool belt :d and volunteering for what ever would help ease the sorrow which i felt had been echoing throughout the ages. i know this has contributed to a deep seeded "messiah ego complex" but i also recoqnised this very early on in life and have kept it reletively in check. i would like to suggest that we all try to check our ego at bedside before embarking on wonderous journeys down the rabbit hole of lucid dreams and astral travel. it is a question of respect for our higher-self, which can instantly remove our ego for us but would much rather have us do it voluntarily. .......sylvain.......

[huedaanydrax]

spiritual awakening & out of body experience

my spiritual awakening happened spontaneously one night in 2002 in our dimly lit bedroom shared with my husband & 2 years old son.
it was the usual habit at the time to let my toddler sleep between myself and husband, so that he could settle quickly and sleep, then sometime during the night or early morning, we could move him into his bed.
that night i had an unusual difficult time falling asleep because my head was buzzing with random thoughts.
after about maybe one hour of staring at the ceiling in an attempt to bore myself to sleep i experienced something unexpected, unexplainable and amazing.
suddenly i felt and heard a roaring sensation in my ears similarly to radio noise except this was very intense, my whole body started to vibrate, then i found myself (astral body) out of my physical body. this i perceived happened quickly.
here i would like to point out i had two perspectives: where my attention is focused on, i would be able to see from that viewpoint. so i was totally aware of myself from my physical body and astral body.
to continue, i first felt myself floating upwards towards the ceiling, then i saw the scene below (from my astral body) of my physical body dressed in a pink night gown still lying on the bed next to my son and husband on the other side. i shifted my attention and saw my astral body (a transparent copy of my physical body) hovering above my physical body.
i did not have time to rationalise what was happening because i felt again a roaring sensation in my ears and vibrations throughout my body, then i saw with my physical eyes a swirling portal/vortex appear: about half a metre, towards the ceiling, near the corner of the bedroom. there was a force within the vortex compelling my astral body towards it. as i watched via my physical eyes: my astral being sucked into the portal, as i passed through i saw fine light strings & distorted shadows of different light colours and heard an accompanying sound like a tape being fast reversed. this was indeed a scary novel experience.
next, i am no longer aware of my physical body, because i am travelling through space in my astral body. i can feel the sensation of being very light weight and flying. as i fly past planets i can change perspective, seeing the scene with my astral eyes, or seeing the scene like a movie with me in it. please note planets are not to scale, and i do not recognise any planets. i finally stop near a bright yellow-orange planet, it could be a star because in this state i do not have any sensations of temperature. i saw explosions emanating from this planet/star, then saw green energy lines (matrix) radating from it. i automatically moved backwards and accidentally touched an energy line. immediately i got zapped by intense energy akin to electicity, my astral body disappeared, immediately i felt my awareness has expanded to infinity. i became and am in a state of allness, everything, all knowing, oneness.

then fear set in because in this state of oneness is so foreign to my normal experiences, immediately my consciousness returned to my physical body.

i remained lying in bed for several minutes and attempted to understand what just happened, however with no reference point of experience and understanding, i became anxious and woke up my husband. after hearing my explanation, in his groggy state he comforted me and we prayed together. we both come from a strong christian background.


by the way i live in sydney, australia.

[AricGoffgog]

realisation & understanding:

from my bible study i now understand the truth in yesu christ words:
there is only one god, each person is made in the image of god, the kingdom of god is within, (meditate) to know yourself (done properly) let your (pineal gland/third) eye be single & body be filled with light (therefore you should) forgive others and (have compassionate) love/treat your neighbours as you would yourself.

now after some personal discovery, more amazing obe. astral body morphing & lucid dreams, and study of available research material into below areas i realise we are spiritual/light beings having physical experiences; we are immortal beings, actors/actresses on a grand stage of imagi(c)nation, experiencing the world subjectively through projecting holograms and feeling e-motions. everything in the material world & time is an illusion or 'maya', e-motions enriches the experiences of the human drama, and the only real unifying force is compassionate love (8 hertz). jesus christ personifies the illuminated state of christ consciousness, the compassionate love unifying all aspects of god into oneness.



analogy:

one becomes many like white light passing through a prism (platonic solid) splits/fractilises into different colours. we are the many expressions of the one source many call god.



study/reading materials:

include: bible, christian history, emf spectrum, holographic universe, the science of consciousness, states ofconsciousness, quatumn physics, hadronic mechanics, platonic solids, obe, energy healing,, regressive hypnotherapy of past lives & inter-lives, solfeggio frequency, effects of thoughts/sounds on water (dr masaru emoto)... [another individual pm please] is good at integrating most of these materials.



co-create a loving world

may each human wake up to the spiritual truth that we are all one, so lets co-create a world where we want to live in by treating each person like members of our human family & intending a loving world community

[vipbunter]

with meditation and intention i've had several more obe, one where i heard a rhythmic music and began to dance in my bedroom. as i, my astral body passed our bedroom big sliding doors/mirror, the sight of my reflection caught my attention: i see an exaggerated view of myself, heavier than what i am in my physical reality. in this state i seem to be child-like where i do not seek to rationalise thoughts and my actions are spontaneous. i reacted with curiosity and played at morphing my body to a slimmer more youthful body, then morphed my face to look more youthful and attractive. i continued to dance in front of the mirror while still hearing the music. i then lost consciousness and cannot recall what happened after that.