[wrefrinny]

many times i have tried to connect with my spirit guide. I meditate in hopes i will go to the astral plane and meet my guide or guides. I've meditated so far at least once or twice a day sometimes for more than 30 minutes.. I cannot seem to see anything life like just alot of colours moving around like clouds that come and go. sometimes i would see a pin hole bright white light come and go or move around.. i have seen no faces or objects. I feel as though when I listen to a meditation walk through that when the person says imagine a staircase or your own special place, i cannot see or imagine it.. sometimes the middle of my forehead hurts where my third eye is and when my eyes are closed and i am trying to quiet my mind it feels as though i am not looking through two eyes but one( third eye maybe?) i am new to all of this. i have been patient for months now and i do still have faith but have not experienced what others explain to me. my boyfriend says he travels to the astral plane and sees his guide(s) and walks around like it is a place he is in... does the astral plane look like earth or like something we have never seen or imagined before? when i am closing my eyes i find that they want to open after a while and flicker closed but i just refocus on keeping them shut. i have never heard voices before.. when you hear voices do they sound like someone is right beside you and does it sound like a voice other than your own? im a little bit frustrated because its been so long and ive seen or heard no results.. only one experience i have had where i was in a church at a friends viewing when they passed and i was praying in the church pews and what felt like a hard tap on my left shoulder occurred , i looked to my left no one was tapping me and it stopped then i continued praying and there it was again another tap.. i meditated since then but only till a week later during meditation did i not hear the words but only got them put in my head was " ezekiel and azrael " i did not know what those words were until i looked them up. still i say , i did not hear those words nor see anything they were just planted in my head with some importance and wouldnt leave.. i found ezekiel is in the bible, im still not sure why that was planted in my head but azrael made sense so i meditated and said was that you who tapped my shoulder in the church and again i got a tap on a shoulder.. i felt that was validation. azrael i found is the angel of death known to comfort by touching a person in a stressful time or time of loss. that gave me more faith in the astral plane and all the angels and guides i seek but still i have not seen. im not sure why i cannot picture things in my head like others do and im not sure why i am having such issues. i was told by a psychic who i paid that my chakras have been closed since child birth from my mothers negative energy and that mediation would not work and to stop meditating. she wanted me to pay her 680 dollars for products and meditations to heal myself so i could meditate again she said i would not meet my guide until they were healed. i feel as though she just wanted my money. how would i know myself if my chakras are closed and if they are how do i open them again without spending 680 dollars. im a student who cannot afford that. also is it true i cannot meditate till they are open? everything i have read and everything so far people have told me has not worked in successfully going to the astral plane and meeting my guide. i have faith though..still.. some people i hear can meditate the first time or not mean to travel to the astral plane and still go there.. i wish i had that luck ... what is my problem a little discouraged here. also.. i hear you are suppose to feel a vibration throughout your body..i havent experienced that also.. no lifelike images,no voices,no vibration...i dont understand. i have been patient for months..still patient but saddened by my lack of success.

[EzekelEnzino]

Blessed1, I can understand your frustration, but I think you're trying so hard that you're blocking your progress. You sound like your lack of progress is stressing you badly, and it is very hard to move forward in a stressed out state.

Contact with guides and spirits varies somewhat for each of us. Please don't try to replicate what your boyfriend or other friends have achieved, and feel like you've failed if you don't. Work instead to grow in your own way.

Seeing the colors as you did is an excellent start. When I see those colors, it is often an indicator that someone in the spirit realm wishes to speak to me, or wants me to know they are with me. I don't push ahead when I experience the colors, I relax and open myself to whatever comes to me. I've been told that it is not unusual for spirits to show themselves in the form of energy, light, or color.

And remember that not all of us physically 'hear' what is spoken to us. On rare ocassions I will hear a word or two, but mostly it is like another set of thoughts going on within my mind. It's silent, but spoken in wording unlike my own. I'm a bit envious of those who truly hear, but my gift doesn't work that way.

You certainly don't need to spend lots of money to open or activate your chakras. My counselor worked with me to do my own chakra work, starting with the root chakra and moving up from there. It involved a lot of visualization work, and grounding, but it succeeded and cost me nothing except time and effort.

Don't give up Blessed1, and be patient. With patience and practice, I'm sure you'll go far.

[wrefrinny]

i definitley am disappointed by no results i was a little envious of other but i have gotten over that now and realized it will happen in time there is no one who cannot be spiritual if they are trying. is it bad to meditate more than twice a day? also .. if my chakras are closed does that mean i cannot go to the astral plane?

[EzekelEnzino]

I find it hard to meditate more than twice a day, and often one is a good session and the other I'm just not that 'into.' It varies. Most often I meditate at night, and do a brief prayer/meditation in the morning to greet the glorious new day. But that's just me. Maybe others will chime in with how often they meditate, and whether they think more than twice a day is too much.

On the question of whether you have to have 'opened' chakras in order to visit the astral plane, I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Chakra work helps you grow as a spiritual individual, but the astral plane is sometimes accessed spontaneously by completly untrained persons.

But I'm certainly not a expert on this subject, I'm just sharing my opinion. Hopefuly others will come forward with more information on this.

[wrefrinny]

thank you again for your reply. i think that the woman who wanted the 680 to help me through my spiritual journey wasnt quite the spiritual person she claimed to be. i have listened and learned through many that being spiritual is a journey that no one can really "help" you to get to... something you achieve on your own but can be influenced by others such as yourself with opinions and experiences. i am going to continue in my spiritual journey and practice patience and prayer.. i know that being more spiritual will fill that void i have felt for many years. i need to get rid of this stress i have in daily life and when i meditate i find it is my own time.. a time to forget about the day and just think of nothing and embrace that nothing as something if you get my drift. i will continue and persevere. i have a tattoo on my right shoulder that says persevere, i have a strong connection to that word it helps remind me to keep on the right path and dont give up. and giving up is the last thing i will do. if anyone else has any advice for me or can answer any of my questions with their own experience i appreciate all the help and advice that i can receive. bless you all for embracing such spirituality.. im glad their are people out there with such a knowledge.. the rest of my family is quite closed minded and ive always felt different. i love them still of course but wish they embraced their own spirituality like myself and all of you..

[EzekelEnzino]

It sometimes is possible to find someone to sort of point you in the right direction.

In my case, I found a New Age counselor to help me with some psychological/emotional issues I had. She guided and helped me learn how to do chakra work and meditation work, as a part of my emotional recovery. Once my issues were under control, we continued to work on the spiritual aspects of my personal growth. By the time our sessions came to an end (she declared me perfectly capable of coping with life now) we had taken many guided imagery sessions together, discovered so many layers to my soul, and had spiritual experiences that amazed us both. I eventually became her teacher, and she became my student. I still speak to her from time to time, whenever anything "interesting" comes up.

I could have done all that work on my own, I know that. But I needed help getting over my emotional issues/blocks first, and I needed to find someone who totally understood and accepted spiritual experiences. I needed someone to gently show me the path and keep me moving forward.

That doesn't mean you need someone to help you. I just wanted you to know that there are honest, sincere people out there who can help if you feel the need.

Take care,
Blue Tiger

[wrefrinny]

i was misdiagnosed at 14 with bipolar disorder and still to this day am on medication i do not need to take because just last month i finally got to see a doctor who said i could go off of them because i did not have bipolar. ive always had some emotional issues but none to the extreme of a label such as that. As I am turning 21 on march 22 , over the years i had alot of cognative behavioural therapy with psychologists and counsellors..they didnt help me all that much...i learned more on how to deal with my problems myself in my own way that way healthy still. i found that "cba" therapy was not what i needed to feel better about my emotions and life issues. I was born feeling connected with animals and people and the earth and new i was spiritual at a young age.. just in the past year i learned more about guides and more about the spiritual journey and i felt as though that is the type of therapy i could really use.. meditation and spiritual guidance not coping skills from some textbook.. what i need is not taught in school ( that i know of ). i dont know anyone who doesnt want to charge me alot of money to do sessions teaching me how to get over my emotional issues... so i took it upon myself to as much research as i could and get others advice such as yourself and try and become more spiritual on my own. i would love to have a teacher that could help me walk my own path but i am a student and i do not have a job because i am full time..i live with my mother and have no source of income. my mom is closed minded and would not fund me for such sessions or help in which she does not believe in. she believes in medication and counselling. which works for some but not me. the only people in my life that have met me that really have a problem with me is my mother..and hmm let me think my mother... lol otherwise even the doctors that prescribed me the medication have always said ( as well as so many others throughout my life) that i seem like an old soul and that i am a lot more mature for my age then most.. its sad when doctors hand out medication like its candy just because a parent insists on it. i am quite harmless and am not a bad kid i am not even as close to as bad as i have seen or heard of ive always thought of myself as more mature than most my age and some older. i find meditation helps me to let go of what has went on in the day by quieting my mind and forgetting all the negative things that went on that day and helps me to re ground myself and uplift my spirit in the end. i see that there is classes on this forum but when i went to apply to one it said the chat was lagging and they couldnt do the classes. so im not sure how i will get taught on any personal level other than asking for peoples opinions. i am diagnosed with anxiety and have a sleeping problem causing me to do bad in school ( hense why it is almost midnight and i am still awake with school in the morning). if you or any one else would like to be my teacher that would be awesome i would be 101 percent committed because to achieve a higher level of spirituality is very important to me..so far i have not gotten very far. just seeing colours when i close my eyes.. but doesnt everyone? thats why im not sure if i am meditating correctly. maybe i need to work out my emotional stresses and life issues first before i can go any further in my meditation. im just not sure how to do so in a spiritual way. when i listen to grounding tapes or white light protection i cannot seem to physically picture a white light around me or roots growing from my feet to the earth and things such as they say to do.. i cannot see that..so im not sure how i am going to get any better at this. when i listen to chakra tones and picture colours for each of the tones i can see the colours sometimes.. thats about it. i wish i knew more..

[TiepayWrary]

The classes in our development section are step by step. I have meditations there that walk you though the steps as well as typed them out so you can follow them.

http://www.spiritualblessing.org/For...ad.php?t=14151

Here is lesson one. If you go to the psychic development section, you will find I have broken them into small bits to make it easier to do.

http://www.spiritualblessing.org/For...ad.php?t=14145

Start with these 2, create a blog here and you can post to us about what you experience and what issues you are going through.

If you space your posts with the enter key, it is also easier for us to read.



Here is white light - you should always protect before you do any work in the astral

http://mediumlauraevans.podomatic.co...12_33_13-08_00


Here is how to ground your energy - being that you have said you have some issues with emotions, you are more than likely empathic and this meditation will help you a lot

http://mediumlauraevans.podomatic.co...12_41_51-08_00
Good luck

[Amoniustauns]

I will tell you..maybe- a little secret, Blessed 1

Where do you think you can find your Spirit Guide?

He ..or She...stays in your Heart...always, from when you were born, till now,
and it will be like that till you die.

Now, you cannot feel him or percieve him, as you are stressing too much.
And that closes the chakra.

You have to open the shiny gate of your Heart to experience Him fully.

Try this meditation:
(daily for at least 3 weeks in a row)
Imagine an awesome Gate in your Heart, see it open itself and watch the Spirit Guide to come out through it.
See Him as a very beautiful being, notice every detail.
Suddenly He lifts up His right hand and from His palm rays of light shine upon your body and into it.
Every cell becomes full of the light and uplifted.

Then let Him go back into your Heart, let the gate to close
and be for a few minutes in silence
feel the vibrations..let whatever wants to come to come to you.

[Sheelldaw]

How can you identify our guides if you see them differently?

[Amoniustauns]

..was it at me?

[PhilipBartew]

..was it at me?

i havent spoke to mine either but i will.lol