[grizolsemn]

hello, i just wanted to have your thoughts on this.

what do you do when life seems to favorably drag you down over the other millions and billions of people around the world? what if you cant really see the lesson/s (if any) it tries to tell you? how do you stay positive despite the hardships?

[rujeltaoser]

Me, personally, I try to find an outlet. Sometimes it is a bad outlet, but lately I have been finding *good* outlets and I find that it really takes away my misery. For example, one of them was coming here and developing my spiritual side. It tremendously eased the pain I was going through.

Just let your problems go, release them and trust the universe. Worrying will kill you before your problems do, eh?

[borasolit]

lol!!! Funny i see this today... well usually i wallow in it for a while, then i talk it out - even if its only to myself!! Then i wake up in the mood that i will make today rock!!!

Like last night i had a huge fight with my boyf who has been stressing me out for a while, the fight was horrible but today i have a new lease on life and even though i will be R4000.00 short at the end of this month if he leaves tonight (which i think he just may) i feel incredibly positive and think that i will have a more positive and fulfilling lifestyle again. he is drenched in negativity and indifference... he constantly disses my beliefs and spirituality etc etc etc and i think without him good things will come again...

I dont get it he used to inspire me and make me more positive now he just drains the positivity and energy out of me...very sad when things go badly but its all in lifes lessons. Not sure i can see the lesson in this but it will come to me when i am ready. although maybe the lesson is actually for him... who knows.

Even when things seem hopeless talk it through and decide that all is well and is perfect

[wmzeto]

Boys are sooo lucky girls are around, cause other men certainly wouldnt put up with em fulltime ! They would all kill each other off !

We women put up and accept so much from men and then they turn around and treat us poorly what ????

hahaa.

Back to post, usually i give up my spiritual path, because life and be-ing human (stolen from pagan haha) gets in the way of any thing else..

Although i must say for me its a good thing step in, step out. Life is hard work, and we cant always have one foot in the grave (ba haha excusa the pun ) So to live in what was intended for us, a human experience, is what i do.

Although at the moment my life is a DRAG as im between jobs, i dont think ive ever been sooo broke its embarressing, my anger is through the roof , because i feel a little out of control, but now that i recognize that its my beginning to heal !

Life is about who we are, what is happening to us. Sometimes if we focus too much on others or too much spirituality (those of us who are not blessed with extra companions constantly, spirits) then we will be bought smashing down to earth.

Smashing down to earth is never fun, cant see the lesson at the time, but i try to say this is a blessing i just cant see it at the moment. Then i have to either dump alot of my thoughts , ie not fight it, or the reverse fight for the death of trying to change the inner me.

I just want to cry right now , Its the inner me crying for me to heal , i love writing sometimes it brings something out you never realised , phewww thanks
Moderator, think the penny just dropped.

[softy54534]

I've gone through so much I actually wrote a book about it! lol

When life hands me crap... like even now with my mother, I usually find friends to vent to. Sure, I complain. I'm human! But I spend about 2 hours at best whining. Then I sit outside and I talk to "them".

"Show me what lessons are in this. I'm so _____." I can then get small sentences in my mind. Patience: to have this shows that you are also compassionate. These lessons are for you to let go and know that you cannot control others emotions, sometimes you have to just let them go.

My mother can make me feel so frustrated, angry and powerless. Then I realize... no she can't make me feel anything. How I'm reacting is my fault.
How can I change this? Is this her goal to do this? In the past I may have said yes... but now, I know she can't help it, it's her illness. When she refuses to eat what I make her, complaining. I have learned to smile and then just offer her two different things. Allowing her to choose.

I have learned that she is also sad that she has no control of her own life anymore. She is powerless. Being that she also, like me, felt that we had to make sure everyone was happy, or everyone liked us or ... This is also her lesson as well as mine. Though her mind cannot appreciate it. So there it is.. your answer.

We learn the lessons, whether we REALIZE the lesson or not. My mom is proof. The more she must give up control, having to have someone help her (which she always refused before), she is learning her lessons and helping me to learn mine as well.

[wmzeto]

Hi Pagan,

That is an awesome post, i truly feel for you. It is not a great not a great journey that you are walking, its filled with raw emotions, it must be the biggest challenge of your life ( also your mothers) but i do believe carers are the gold of this earth.

My friends mum had Multiple schlorosis, it was terminal and she watched her mother slowly die over 15 years, she was so emabarresed by it, at 14 she tried to tell me her mum was an alcoholic... It was a typical windy hot night and her mum was also diagnosed with bi polar with delusions, she tried to justify her mums behaviour as we lie watching the stars on her front lawn.

I having an alcoholic father , said you dont need to lie to me , your mum is not an alcoholic, she got angry with me, i told her ,my story more in depth and she told me hers. ( she wasnt happy about being caught out lying the stubborn thing ) then we both cried and held each other.

Emotions can do funny things to us, she built a wall not even herself could climb, today in our hmm cough cough splatter late 30s she is starting to heal
slowly.... She survived more than most without going insane or depressed


You Pagan are an amazing, loving and a very special person, you know this , but it doesnt hurt to hear it ,, even for a person as strong as you !!

Oi and dont come back and tell me about its about your mum, im talking to you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HoniSoniproca]

Awww.. Yinepu! That was a beautiful post! Thank you, and it's nice for Laura to hear that from other people then the typical ones that she turns to daily in her frustration.

[softy54534]

Thank you guys I have bad days too, but I'm not someone that put on a forum because I strongly believe that what you put out, you get back. What you spread, receive. So I give love, and positive words to you, so that I can feel them coming back to give me the strength.

I appreciate your words and your love. Thank you so much xo

[geaveheadeNox]

I've been feeling really depressed but reading this thread has really uplifted me. Laura you really are inspirational.

When I feel depressed or like life is conspiring against me, I usually feel a bit sorry for myself. I used to feel guilty and ashamed for doing this but now I've realised that when you feel sad be sad. Otherwise you get emotionally screwed up. When I finish feeling sorry for myself I think about the situation what does this situation teach me, what can I learn from this? Thats the most important thing for me. In life sometimes good things happen and sometimes bad things happen its all just a part of life and you just have to go with the flow.

I found a really good quote today. I think it contains an important lesson:

Will Buddhism solve the problems of everyday life? No. As the Buddha says, if you've got 83 problems, he can only help with your 84th problem, which is that "You want not to have any problems".

[wmzeto]

Yes your very private, and i think that it gets stronger, as does your shortness of patience only because you now have a view of the world others are blind to. Sometimes a bitterness, which is absolutly resonable as its another feeling that we need ( otherwise it wouldnt exist)

Your anger would be immense at times, as would your grief, but realistically your grief would not be shared by many if with any at all, as it is also immense and we dont want to share that..... AMEN i certainly dont like sharing that that means im vunerable screw THAT!!


You raised a wonderful point that im not sure my friend has viewed, as she loves to be in control, but no one can blame her as her choices in life due to her mums illness was out of her control.. so i will see if the control thing may resonate with her , im sure it will, a karmic lesson perhaps.

Your a tough woman, just remember to allow the help if its around you miss STUBBORN !! haha You dont always have to be strong, vulnerable is sexy so i here,,,( tried it once it worked )

[softy54534]

lol


I appreciate your thoughts and support I'm private in some ways and not in others :P

[softy54534]

I've been feeling really depressed but reading this thread has really uplifted me. Laura you really are inspirational.

When I feel depressed or like life is conspiring against me, I usually feel a bit sorry for myself. I used to feel guilty and ashamed for doing this but now I've realised that when you feel sad be sad. Otherwise you get emotionally screwed up. When I finish feeling sorry for myself I think about the situation what does this situation teach me, what can I learn from this? Thats the most important thing for me. In life sometimes good things happen and sometimes bad things happen its all just a part of life and you just have to go with the flow.

I found a really good quote today. I think it contains an important lesson:

Will Buddhism solve the problems of everyday life? No. As the Buddha says, if you've got 83 problems, he can only help with your 84th problem, which is that "You want not to have any problems".

Thank you. I love Buddha!

[wmzeto]

i was told by an astrologist its the time to let things go as the universe will take it whether we are kicking and screaming,,,, im kicking and screaming but i dont know why !! weird... normally im ok with letting go.... must...let,,,,,,,goo.....but.....WHYYYYYYYYYYY and ......what,,,,, of????????? i dont like cying damn yooooouuuuuuu.

[mobiphones]

He..he: My original post read: I agree with Yinepu. Laura you are an amazing and special person and through your positivity and wisdom I am learning to make differences in my own life. I hate what you are going through with your mom, but I love your attitude about it. It takes one heck of a strong woman to rise out of affliction, pain, and indifference and you my dear are inspiring.

What do you do? I learned that through meditation and becoming one with my spirituality and development that my attitude in dealing with my hardships is better. If you trust in the universe and hand those physical problems over I believe that they (those physical problems) will be easier to deal with. What do they say...whoever they are..."what doesn't kill you makes you stronger."


Update: ha ha Laura, you are our Ghandi!!! Even though you have your own issues to deal with you have touched lives, taught, and spread love. How many of us have quoted you in a post? You are living your life purpose. And you are right, posting our negative thoughts on the forums does spread negativity. I often thought that when I posted some turmoil going on in my life, so I now try really hard to stay positive and uplifting on here as much as I can. We absolutely do receive what we give. So here is some love to all of you:

[softy54534]

LOL I deleted New Dawn's post instead of answering it lol

I had put... that would make me Ghandi :P Thanks for putting it back. SORRY!

[softy54534]

He..he: My original post read: I agree with Yinepu. Laura you are an amazing and special person and through your positivity and wisdom I am learning to make differences in my own life. I hate what you are going through with your mom, but I love your attitude about it. It takes one heck of a strong woman to rise out of affliction, pain, and indifference and you my dear are inspiring.

What do you do? I learned that through meditation and becoming one with my spirituality and development that my attitude in dealing with my hardships is better. If you trust in the universe and hand those physical problems over I believe that they (those physical problems) will be easier to deal with. What do they say...whoever they are..."what doesn't kill you makes you stronger."


Update: ha ha Laura, you are our Ghandi!!! Even though you have your own issues to deal with you have touched lives, taught, and spread love. How many of us have quoted you in a post? You are living your life purpose. And you are right, posting our negative thoughts on the forums does spread negativity. I often thought that when I posted some turmoil going on in my life, so I now try really hard to stay positive and uplifting on here as much as I can. We absolutely do receive what we give. So here is some love to all of you:

HAHA Thank you I don't mind people asking for help! But there are those, unnamed, who are no longer on this forum that live off of their negative drama and only post so that they can get attention There are few people in my life who I complain to, when I do, I realize that I'm only letting off steam, then I get back to my "send it out, get it back" mentality

[palantownia]

hello, i just wanted to have your thoughts on this.

what do you do when life seems to favorably drag you down over the other millions and billions of people around the world? what if you cant really see the lesson/s (if any) it tries to tell you? how do you stay positive despite the hardships?

Hi Moderator, it seems you're a bit confused and kind of bored of the same situation.

I want to answer to you, not to your question: Life has no paths, we could be sinners or saints and in the end that doesn't matter at all. We are like a canvas that anyone can paint on and we'll always be a canvas (always receptive energy).

We can identify ourselves with beautiful paintings such as saints meditating under a tree or ugly paitings such as criminals killing carelessly. It will NOT ever matter what we do, but what we really are beyond bounderies.

Of course we feel we lose our paths because one day we feel down, then feel down openly! Enjoy it ¿WHEN THE HELL WILL WE BEGIN TO ENJOY WETHER WE FEEL BAD OR GOOD?

WILL IT MATTER TO ENJOY SADNESS WHEN WE GO TO HEAVEN? NO that only happens here.

Let's play a game: Let's try to remember as much as possible we are canvas and not paintings. And let's try to accept everything, it doesn't matter if it's bad or good as those labels exist in mind and nowhere else.

The best of luck for you! and do not forget we're playing a game

[grizolsemn]

thank you for all your replies, they're kinda poke in the eye for me..im sorry maybe yesterday was the day my drum was full, and now its empty and ready to be filled again..hahaha..i so happy to be able to share these things to you, and get a sincere advise or thought to just push me away from the shade i was in..its amazing how love and positivity are abound this site! i admire we supporting each other, may it be a serious situation or just a plain game of what i do not take off my body..lol

i am ok now, its a nice reminder and so much nicer to hear/read it from you guys..we all have ups and downs, but as long as we have friends the downs seem not so hard as it should be..

thanks for the inspirations and the laughs i got from this thread!

cheers to all of us!

[softy54534]

hehe Check those false teeth Seph

[giDdfezP]

I have faith. No suffering is in vain.