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Old 10-10-2009, 11:36 PM   #1
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Hello All,
I was wondering if any of you have experienced my situation and if so, will you please offer me some advice? I have been reading tarot cards for quiet sometime. I joined this forum because I wanted to further enhance my psychic abilities and perhaps expand into spiritual mediumship. A few weeks ago, I decided to use the cards to try to get some information regarding a cold case murder mystery that I read about in the Philadelphia Inquirer.

I decided to pull some cards before bed time and to think about those cards and the question I had as I drifted off to sleep. That night, I believe I had my first contact with my spirit guide and medium. An older man (my guide, I believe) told me who killed the murder victim and the motive.

After the guide explained the cir***stances of the victim's death, I noticed the murder victim standing towards the side, listening to what was being said. When he was satisfied that my "guide" told the story correctly, he walked across between us, with his hands in his pocket, looking down at the ground. He never once tried to speak. He looked uncomfortable being there.

After my dream, I could not get the murder victim out of my mind. I kept seeing pictures of him published by the newspapers and it inspired me to join a medium forum. It so turned out that one of the mediums on the site is the daughter of the "reigning "police of the town where the body was found at the time the body was found (in 1968).

Prior to making contact with the other medium, I thought my dream was simply just a dream. She was the one who explained to me that the older man in my dream was indeed my spirit guide. Unfortunately, the whole experience proved too stressful for me. At heart, I am a tarot reader, not a medium. I did not enjoy having that heavy feeling and uneasiness I started to feel ever since I had the dream. I didn't like being woken up in the middle of the night, heart racing, for what seemed like no particular reason (again, which started happening only after the dream).

So, I decided that I no longer believed in spirits. The "feelings" stopped. I was able to live life pretty much like I did prior to the experience. Well, yesterday, I took part in a psychic circle conducted by members of the tarot forum I belonged to. I was there as a volunteer. The ladies wanted to practice psychic readings with very limited help from their tarot cards.

I expected to hear about my current life and future. That is what usually turns up when we do readings for each other. Instead, the ladies (who unknown to me were also spiritual mediums) told me they saw the spirit of a man that fit the description of the murder victim I had "contacted" prior. He was even acting in the same manner as in my dream.

They felt afraid of him. They told me he was convinced that me and him were meant to be. Apparently, I reminded him of a girl he was attracted to in life. They say that he was actually actively preventing me from dating to keep me to himself. Our contact initially started off as me helping him find peace but after meeting me, the spirit decided he wanted to stay with me. According to the mediums, those on the other side wanted to help him and have reached out to him but he refuses to go.

This piece of information explained why the mediums from the other group (professional mediums who have worked with the police) were unable to get any information regarding the victim, his death, or how to find peace for him...he didn't want help. If this is all true, then i really feel for him. I don't know if keeping a spirit around would be a noble thing to do, though. He seems very sweet but it just doesn't feel right holding someone back from experiencing the joys of the after life. The mediums from the circle were pretty rough with him (telling him to go, ect). I felt bad about the whole situation. After all, I do consider him a friend now.
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Old 10-11-2009, 03:40 AM   #2
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hi... I havent actually had an experience like this (well not as such) but i heard something about a spirit who (i dunno if there are the right words) was attracted to a living person, he also prevented her from dating coz he wanted her for himself, it didnt work out very well coz when she did fall for someone he would somehow destroy the relationship - i cant quite remember the entire story but he too didnt want to leave...

My reccomendation is that you communicate with him and tell him you dont want to be alone in the physical life and you do appreciate him but he should enjoy wat comes after life and that maybe you two will meet again... i dunno something like that... coz he might be all nice now but the concern is when you find someone who you fall madly in love with???

Please what ever your choice be careful! I had a spirit with me for many years and tho i still havent the faintest idea who he was after about 8 years he started to make me very uneasy he became intense and would invade my space unlike before - he would come into my bedroom etc and i had to set boundaries then for a few more years he was fine... then *poof* gone... (i think) lol

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Old 10-11-2009, 04:35 AM   #3
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hi... I havent actually had an experience like this (well not as such) but i heard something about a spirit who (i dunno if there are the right words) was attracted to a living person, he also prevented her from dating coz he wanted her for himself, it didnt work out very well coz when she did fall for someone he would somehow destroy the relationship - i cant quite remember the entire story but he too didnt want to leave...
When the mediums told me the spirit was actually trying to prevent me from dating, I wasn't sure what to believe. I did not see how he could actually keep people away from me, when for awhile, i wasn't even sure he existed. I am so relieved you all take me seriously. I expected you all to think I was insane.

My reccomendation is that you communicate with him and tell him you dont want to be alone in the physical life and you do appreciate him but he should enjoy wat comes after life and that maybe you two will meet again... i dunno something like that... coz he might be all nice now but the concern is when you find someone who you fall madly in love with???
That's the problem. I am already madly in love. I have a boyfriend who IS alive. They say spirits cannot hurt you but I worry if I tell him I will see him in the after life, if he will try to speed up the process? The mediums say that some of my deceased relatives are aware of what is going on (some even showed up at in the psychic circle) and were uneasy about this spirit's attraction to me.
Please what ever your choice be careful! I had a spirit with me for many years and tho i still havent the faintest idea who he was after about 8 years he started to make me very uneasy he became intense and would invade my space unlike before - he would come into my bedroom etc and i had to set boundaries then for a few more years he was fine... then *poof* gone... (i think) lol
Thanks for sharing, Zen Chi. This spirit, did he ever manifest himself? Or did you just get feelings? Before I was very afraid of the spirit (the one who is attached to me), so I would just feel him but not hear or see him. Yesterday, I could have sworn I heard whistling and as I was falling asleep an angry voice but I couldn't make out what he was saying ( I don't know if that was real, though or if I just imagined it).

According to the mediums, this spirit stutters when he talks and is easily flustered. If the voice I "heard" yesterday was real, maybe that was why I could not understand what was said. Today, at breakfast, I heard another voice say a brief sentence but it wasn't a man's voice. I don't know if spirits are now contacting me because they see I am no longer afraid (at least not like before) or if I really have an imagination.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:23 AM   #4
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the fact spirits can not hurt you is a debatable topic really. I dont believe that anything made from the light can hurt you. While i lived in the uk i used to watch alot of paranormal shows (even as a child i was attracted to this) i wish i could watch them again and or just remember what was said but i do recall one episode when a spirit became dangerous.

The spirit i had following me was at first very soft dunno how else to put it i only felt him on my newspaper route, then when i came back to south africa he would stand in the passage and watch over me i could feel him watching me, when i went outside at night he would follow but not much more then that. I moved in with my boyfriend and he was always outside the front door or in the dining room, (the kitchen light was always the last i turned off I used to RUN thru thr dining room up the passage into my room) then one night i felt him in my room then he was at work with me and there when i went out... he always used to be behing me to my left when he started walking infront of me i got ticked off with him! i occasionally saw him as a shadow but nothing glamourous!

i dont feel him anymore, maybe i just dont notice him... But i was talking to the lady who taught me Reiki the otherday about the little girl i have been seeing, she said i must extend pure white light out to her saying that if she is not of the light she should go into it. i havent seen her since then really i dont know if i did this subconcisously, but your spirit on the other hand needs to go into the light as reluctant as he may be. I dont get a great vibe from this situation.

On the hearing topic, you are clairaudient i dont always hear spirits but i have had "conversations" with a few. I cant turn it on and off it just happens when it happens i must admit i am scared to channel and i believe they know that and kinda leave me be... lol.

I think try tell the spirit that he needs to go and that you dont want him hanging onto you.... what does everyone else think? maybe i am way off here! Here's a prayer that works well:
i have used it a few times with a great outcome!!!
In nomini padre
et feli
et spiritus sancti
abe male spritus
abe male spiritus
abe male spiritus
in nomini padre
et feli
et spiritus sancti
in nomini jesus christi
amen
(now think a really happy thought and feel the power of that thought)

its in latin male in pronounced ma-le

Hope this helps
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:04 AM   #5
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The spirit i had following me was at first very soft dunno how else to put it i only felt him on my newspaper route, then when i came back to south africa he would stand in the passage and watch over me i could feel him watching me, when i went outside at night he would follow but not much more then that. I moved in with my boyfriend and he was always outside the front door or in the dining room, (the kitchen light was always the last i turned off I used to RUN thru thr dining room up the passage into my room) then one night i felt him in my room then he was at work with me and there when i went out... he always used to be behing me to my left when he started walking infront of me i got ticked off with him! i occasionally saw him as a shadow but nothing glamourous! i dont feel him anymore, maybe i just dont notice him...
Thank you for sharing, ZenChi. What you shared is very, very informative. I had no idea things could escalate. I just had this idea if we stayed together forever, it's be like any other friendship. except, we wouldn't really talk, he'd just be watching me. I already feel a little nutty when I wake up in the middle of the night and feel the need to tell him to "stop." I worry someone will hear and think I am talking to myself. But I suppose that sounds better than "I'm talking to a spirit."

But i was talking to the lady who taught me Reiki the otherday about the little girl i have been seeing, she said i must extend pure white light out to her saying that if she is not of the light she should go into it. i havent seen her since then really i dont know if i did this subconcisously..
I think it's real. That's what the mediums told me to do, tell him to go to the light. They even told me to go to the bridge and put flowers there. i don't want to go anywhere near the bridge, though...

your spirit on the other hand needs to go into the light as reluctant as he may be. I dont get a great vibe from this situation.
I thought at worst, he could make me go insane. But he wouldn't really try to take over my body like in the Exocist, right?

On the hearing topic, you are clairaudient i dont always hear spirits but i have had "conversations" with a few. I cant turn it on and off it just happens when it happens i must admit i am scared to channel and i believe they know that and kinda leave me be... lol.
wow, I had no idea that I had such a special ability. What do you mean you have conversations? Like you hear it in your head-like thoughts but in another's voice?

I think try tell the spirit that he needs to go and that you dont want him hanging onto you.... what does everyone else think? maybe i am way off here! Here's a prayer that works well:
i have used it a few times with a great outcome!!!
You know, I will. This whole time, I really felt kind of bad for him. I thought he was misunderstood. He said so himself in circle. But after hearing your story, I am beginning to realize just how dangerous this whole thing is. Thanks for the prayer, I'll try it. I did have a conversation with him, telling him to leave me alone because I can't help him. I thought he left and was very surprised to hear (from the mediums) that he was still around me.
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Hello All,
I was wondering if any of you have experienced my situation and if so, will you please offer me some advice? I have been reading tarot cards for quiet sometime. I joined this forum because I wanted to further enhance my psychic abilities and perhaps expand into spiritual mediumship. A few weeks ago, I decided to use the cards to try to get some information regarding a cold case murder mystery that I read about in the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Hi Jess, can I ask what type of information would you be expecting to receive from a tarot card about a cold case file?
Tarot cards are usually used as an aid to assist in reading people's vibrational energy (aura) of a person who is living. They are not used to communicate with those who have crossed over.


I decided to pull some cards before bed time and to think about those cards and the question I had as I drifted off to sleep. That night, I believe I had my first contact with my spirit guide and medium. An older man (my guide, I believe) told me who killed the murder victim and the motive.

A belief does not mean it is necessarily so. Reading between the lines of your post it appears you have little knowledge of mediumship or how spirit work, Apologies if i'm wrong. There are said to be mischievious spirits who will say and do whatever is necessary for a person to believe what they say is fact, when it isn't. It's events such as this where the correct teaching and firmly built foundations of study and practice are worthwile.


After the guide explained the cir***stances of the victim's death, I noticed the murder victim standing towards the side, listening to what was being said. When he was satisfied that my "guide" told the story correctly, he walked across between us, with his hands in his pocket, looking down at the ground. He never once tried to speak. He looked uncomfortable being there.

I fail to understand why a guide would need to have to, or even want to explain the cir***stances of a person's murder to someone living. This information is unnecessary and the passing on of it is of no help to the soul who was murdered. He will come to understand and learn why events turned out as they did, at the end of his physical life.

After my dream, I could not get the murder victim out of my mind. I kept seeing pictures of him published by the newspapers and it inspired me to join a medium forum. It so turned out that one of the mediums on the site is the daughter of the "reigning "police of the town where the body was found at the time the body was found (in 1968).

Prior to making contact with the other medium, I thought my dream was simply just a dream. She was the one who explained to me that the older man in my dream was indeed my spirit guide. Unfortunately, the whole experience proved too stressful for me. At heart, I am a tarot reader, not a medium. I did not enjoy having that heavy feeling and uneasiness I started to feel ever since I had the dream. I didn't like being woken up in the middle of the night, heart racing, for what seemed like no particular reason (again, which started happening only after the dream).

Did you by any chance reveal to this other medium the description of this spirit guide before she informed you, that he was definitely your spirit guide?

So, I decided that I no longer believed in spirits. The "feelings" stopped. I was able to live life pretty much like I did prior to the experience. Well, yesterday, I took part in a psychic circle conducted by members of the tarot forum I belonged to. I was there as a volunteer. The ladies wanted to practice psychic readings with very limited help from their tarot cards.

I expected to hear about my current life and future. That is what usually turns up when we do readings for each other. Instead, the ladies (who unknown to me were also spiritual mediums) told me they saw the spirit of a man that fit the description of the murder victim I had "contacted" prior. He was even acting in the same manner as in my dream.

In all honesty Jess, the description of the man who was murdered as you say, was firmly present in your aura. It is easy to pick out information from someone's aura, moreso if a person is used to using their psychic faculties as many psychics and mediums are.

They felt afraid of him. They told me he was convinced that me and him were meant to be. Apparently, I reminded him of a girl he was attracted to in life. They say that he was actually actively preventing me from dating to keep me to himself. Our contact initially started off as me helping him find peace but after meeting me, the spirit decided he wanted to stay with me. According to the mediums, those on the other side wanted to help him and have reached out to him but he refuses to go.

This piece of information explained why the mediums from the other group (professional mediums who have worked with the police) were unable to get any information regarding the victim, his death, or how to find peace for him...he didn't want help. If this is all true, then i really feel for him. I don't know if keeping a spirit around would be a noble thing to do, though. He seems very sweet but it just doesn't feel right holding someone back from experiencing the joys of the after life. The mediums from the circle were pretty rough with him (telling him to go, ect). I felt bad about the whole situation. After all, I do consider him a friend now.
Firstly may I say that everyone of us cross over when we die. It's a natural process and not one person can avoid it from happening. When we first cross into the next stage of life, we find ourselves in a place very similar to the one which we have left. Within this astral world ( which is a part of the spirit world) there are people (spirits) who are quite happy to remain there for any number of years, having no desire to evolve further. There are a variety of reasons as to why they stay but it's their decision, their free will which keeps them there. This doesn't mean the higher spirits leave them to their own devices. Once a soul is ready to evolve, the lower astral world gives way to the next level or higher plane instantly.

They don't need mediums to 'rescue' them. If help is needed there are enough spirit people who are highly evolved to look after them so much better than we can.

What I don't understand is why these so called professional mediums were afraid of him and why they treated him roughly. They are not the kind of mediums I would spend my time with.

Jess, I'm not disbelieving you had this experience neither am I saying it isn't true. That isn't my call. The reason for my post is to encourage you to not just accept without first questioning any spirit communications you receive in the future from any medium or indeed your own guide whoever they may be.

I would also like to add that I have much to learn about the spirit world, my knowledge is small compared to others and I have been working with them for many years. There is nothing dangerous about connecting and communicating with the spirit world. Aim for the higher spirits they will not harm you.
I hope my post doesn't cause you further distress or additional worry that's not what I intended.

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Old 11-10-2009, 02:20 PM   #7
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I myself am still learning about medium ship. Even though my father isnt open about any of this he said something That rang so true to me. Never be scared of the dead... Its the living we need to worry about

I am not going to say there aren't negative energy's I would like to belive though that if they held a negative energy on the earthly plain once they transition they can see and feel the light raising there vibration into a more positive one.

Because no one really knows for sure and there are so many theories, I do feel the need to protect your self from any lower energies. I only welcome those from Love and light.

When I feel a presence and I am uneasy about it I state the words if you are not from love and light In the name of Jesus Christ be gone!

That is how I am comfortable on calling for a more powerful being to help remove any negative ones.

I haven't experienced your experiance, but I have experienced over shadowing. The first thing I was told is remember you can say No! Spirit can not do what you wont allow.

When working with spirits, guides, or whom ever. It is important to keep boundries.

Do I feel a spirit can sabotage a relationship?.... This is just my opinion... If they can have 2 people meet, they can try to Savage it.

BUT again it is only what we allow.... If the relationship is ment to be No spirit or living person will be able to prevent it from happening.

So in essence if someone chooses to allow a spirit to interfere in there lives, It is not the spirit who did it....... It is us who allowed it, good or bad.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:47 PM   #8
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See this is what i love about this forum! I agreed with you Smiles! I spose I did allow my spirit ti follow...

I dont really have an opinion of spirits taking over a body (that would just terrify me so i try to not think on it too much!) I have never really spoken to anyone it happened to, seen it on TV but i dont always believe everything i see... But from experiences of others: friends, family members etc etc i do think there are negative energies. Again i do protections when i meditate etc and see white light around me, and ask for only those of the higher vibrations come thru...

The conversation that i had with Mark my brothers best friend was very informative i could hear him inside the back of my head his voice but i needed conmation that i heard what i thought i heard so i asked him why he commited suicide as the only person who had any idea was my brother - then confirmed the reason with my brother...

I believe the topic and theories of spirits and that world are soooo vast the best we can do is what works for us and give others the ideas on what they could try that could work for them! Iv heard so many things ie familiar spirits that could take up information of your deceased loved ones and use it to stir with you... has anyone else heard that sort of thing?
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Old 11-10-2009, 06:01 PM   #9
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I myself am still learning about medium ship. Even though my father isnt open about any of this he said something That rang so true to me. Never be scared of the dead... Its the living we need to worry about

I am not going to say there aren't negative energy's I would like to belive though that if they held a negative energy on the earthly plain once they transition they can see and feel the light raising there vibration into a more positive one.

Because no one really knows for sure and there are so many theories, I do feel the need to protect your self from any lower energies. I only welcome those from Love and light.

When I feel a presence and I am uneasy about it I state the words if you are not from love and light In the name of Jesus Christ be gone!

That is how I am comfortable on calling for a more powerful being to help remove any negative ones.
Hi Smiles 4u, you are right to do what is right and comfortable for you, nobody should do anything if it doesn't feel right.
I see all spirits as beings from the light, after all it's not only the 'good people' who have the spirit of God light within them. The difference is that the light of these souls are dimmed by the way they lived their physical lives. I now choose the term 'mischievous' rather than negative, although this wasn't always the case. I know these type of spirits won't get near me because like attracts like, it is a natural universal law.
When we begin to attune our vibrations to work with spirit, by choosing to seek out the higher evolved spiritual beings which our guides are, the lower spirits cannot and will not come near. If we were to think about lower entities as well as feeling fear of connecting to them, this can and will alter our own vibrations which results in attracting those lower entities that we are trying to avoid. This is because we put ourselves on the same vibrational frequency which they are on.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:02 AM   #10
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Never be scared of the dead... Its the living we need to worry about
haha, that's what my dad said, too. So last night, I was thinking "well if there really is a spirit, which would I rather have? He come in or a living intruder?"



Iv heard so many things ie familiar spirits that could take up information of your deceased loved ones and use it to stir with you... has anyone else heard that sort of thing?
yes, from church people! I heard that spirits from the dead don't communicate with people. Its the bad spirits that take information from the deceased and use it to trick people. I'm not sure if I believe it, though. I was just thinking about my experience and wonder if it was at all real? If I realy did have a spirit following me around, wouldn't he do more than just give me uneasy feelings and show up in a dream once? Wouldn't he be trying to knock stuff over? Do you think that perhaps it was just a coincidence that these mediums "observed" the same mannerisms in the "spirit" that I did--or do spirits tend to act the same, anyway? Perhaps most spirits are just unstable, form attachments to people, and refuse to go into the light (perhaps why they still are on earth?). I feel almost like I was being gullible (except I don't know why the mediums would make up stuff when they were reading me for free, anyway).
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:21 AM   #11
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Can I ask you a question is it possible that some of what they said may have been "possibilities" in your mind prior to the readings?

I ask becouse They may not have been picking up on the one you feel is following you but on your energy.

I was on another forum and we play games where someone posts a picture and we try and read it.

Now there are a few pictures posted at a time, and well we all do it lol .

AS I was reading a picture I was getting all this info, a male spirt something with the leg yada yada yada. I posted my answer

I went on to the next post, and the womans picture I just did a read on. Posted at the same time as me on another picture. (I was reading her and at the same exact time she was reading someone else lol)

I picked up on her reading, every thing she was seeing on the guy I picked up on thinking it was her! lol So I posted on the guys picture, all I can say is ditto, on what the woman said. Becouse I got all the same info as her when i was reaading her!

He PMed me and said hay thats a new approch reading the person who was reading me! You were both dead on!

When you have more then one person reading you they pick up eachothers energy. Thats one of the reasons I dont like to read for people if they have been read in 30 days.

If you had these or similer thoughts prior to the reading it would have seemed as if they were confirming a possible answer. Once one picked that up it followed threw to the rest. They may have thought it was the spirit, but when you get info, you dont always understand it its like putting a puzzle together sometimes.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:39 AM   #12
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Can I ask you a question is it possible that some of what they said may have been "possibilities" in your mind prior to the readings?
nope. Like I said, I didn't know they were mediums (prior to the reading) so I had no clue they'd even see a spirit. Furthermore, going into the reading, I decided that I did not believe in spirits. I thought they were going to tell me about my current relationship and future. The reading I got caught me by surprise. They didn't just tell me about this spirit, they even saw my *dead aunt (who I haven't thought about since I was 7 because that was the last time I saw her). The mediums said my aunt showed up because she didn't like the idea of the spirit following me around.


When you have more then one person reading you they pick up eachothers energy. Thats one of the reasons I dont like to read for people if they have been read in 30 days.
I receive tarot readings daily. I am a tarot reader and love to read myself. I also exchange with other tarot readers but we did not read about the spirit. Most of my tarot friends will not do readings on the dead. After my dream, I avoid those kinds of readings, too. Plus, I had more "important" issues that I wanted read. I am more interested in the future than in the dead. Plus, like I said, once I decided that I did not believe in sprits, I pretty much put it out of my mind.

A group of mediums worked with the spirit about two weeks before I joined the psychic circle but I did not have much of a part in it. I simply showed them the links to the murder victim's picture and told them I thought I his spirit was following me. Later the one of the mediums contacted me and reported what she got. His personality (as she described it) matched up with how he was in my dream.

ETA: although, i have to admit, the aunt they described in the reading was very vague. The description of the murder victim was really good, though.

* I think the aunt they saw in the circle was the one who I hadn't thought of since I was 7. the personality described her. They didn't describe her physically, though, so I have no way of knowing for sure. They were more caught up in the murder victim.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:51 PM   #13
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Good luck with your spiritual journey Jess. I hope you find what you are looking for.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:57 AM   #14
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Even in death, we have "free will" maybe he would like to stay and help to see that his killer is brought to justice. Though on the Other Side, it matters little what the judgement of that person is, while still being closely linked to the earth plane, he wants to see that the person is accountable.

He will cross when he feels justified. Angels and Guides will keep calling to him and he will respond.

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Hello All,
I was wondering if any of you have experienced my situation and if so, will you please offer me some advice? I have been reading tarot cards for quiet sometime. I joined this forum because I wanted to further enhance my psychic abilities and perhaps expand into spiritual mediumship. A few weeks ago, I decided to use the cards to try to get some information regarding a cold case murder mystery that I read about in the Philadelphia Inquirer.

I decided to pull some cards before bed time and to think about those cards and the question I had as I drifted off to sleep. That night, I believe I had my first contact with my spirit guide and medium. An older man (my guide, I believe) told me who killed the murder victim and the motive.

After the guide explained the cir***stances of the victim's death, I noticed the murder victim standing towards the side, listening to what was being said. When he was satisfied that my "guide" told the story correctly, he walked across between us, with his hands in his pocket, looking down at the ground. He never once tried to speak. He looked uncomfortable being there.

After my dream, I could not get the murder victim out of my mind. I kept seeing pictures of him published by the newspapers and it inspired me to join a medium forum. It so turned out that one of the mediums on the site is the daughter of the "reigning "police of the town where the body was found at the time the body was found (in 1968).

Prior to making contact with the other medium, I thought my dream was simply just a dream. She was the one who explained to me that the older man in my dream was indeed my spirit guide. Unfortunately, the whole experience proved too stressful for me. At heart, I am a tarot reader, not a medium. I did not enjoy having that heavy feeling and uneasiness I started to feel ever since I had the dream. I didn't like being woken up in the middle of the night, heart racing, for what seemed like no particular reason (again, which started happening only after the dream).

So, I decided that I no longer believed in spirits. The "feelings" stopped. I was able to live life pretty much like I did prior to the experience. Well, yesterday, I took part in a psychic circle conducted by members of the tarot forum I belonged to. I was there as a volunteer. The ladies wanted to practice psychic readings with very limited help from their tarot cards.

I expected to hear about my current life and future. That is what usually turns up when we do readings for each other. Instead, the ladies (who unknown to me were also spiritual mediums) told me they saw the spirit of a man that fit the description of the murder victim I had "contacted" prior. He was even acting in the same manner as in my dream.

They felt afraid of him. They told me he was convinced that me and him were meant to be. Apparently, I reminded him of a girl he was attracted to in life. They say that he was actually actively preventing me from dating to keep me to himself. Our contact initially started off as me helping him find peace but after meeting me, the spirit decided he wanted to stay with me. According to the mediums, those on the other side wanted to help him and have reached out to him but he refuses to go.

This piece of information explained why the mediums from the other group (professional mediums who have worked with the police) were unable to get any information regarding the victim, his death, or how to find peace for him...he didn't want help. If this is all true, then i really feel for him. I don't know if keeping a spirit around would be a noble thing to do, though. He seems very sweet but it just doesn't feel right holding someone back from experiencing the joys of the after life. The mediums from the circle were pretty rough with him (telling him to go, ect). I felt bad about the whole situation. After all, I do consider him a friend now.
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