[Mowselelex]

I've gotten this from many people. and I'm used to hearing it but lately a friend mentioned to me that he is always thirsty when he's around me.

what can or that something like this usually signify?

and to clarify:

I send out energy, or people receive my energy or pick up on my energy or spirit ... however you want to interpret.

those who have a high level, saturated with energy, actual holy people, are the one who get affected the most by me.
some say it's me overpowering them.... others say it's a vampire effect?? I honestly doubt that one though. others think it may be me subconsciously sending out energy to people.

I'm searching for ideas and ways to help control this.

[Mowselelex]

well I guess no one here can help.

[Mowselelex]

I've been searching for meanings and while I think I may have an Idea at the time then things turn off.
any Shaman / Medicine men or women here who can help?

I'm just trying to understand some of the things that happen around me.

[Freeptube]

Hello juansmith,

I'm not sure what your asking, is it, that you're concerned people feel they need to drink, take in fluids when their around you?

Or is your question about astral projection?

Please clarify and I'm sure you'll get the answers your looking for.

[PypeMaypetasy]

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[DagoIgnog]

So basically he's a psychic vampire?

[Mowselelex]

Hello juansmith,

I'm not sure what your asking, is it, that you're concerned people feel they need to drink, take in fluids when their around you?

Or is your question about astral projection?

Please clarify and I'm sure you'll get the answers your looking for.

I apologize for being so unclear. I come from old ways of teaching and a lot of what I have experienced and been taught has been in my native tongue which in turn has no or direct translation into English.

what I mean by when I project out easily...
well.. how to describe this.
there have been many times when I've felt so overwhelmed and full of sadness that people around me pick it up without me even saying a word or showing that emotion through body language. and this is normal as we all can tune into other's emotions without having seen them it's just a matter of how in tune with our selves we are.

but a recurring event around me when I meet people of lets say high actual spiritual energy, they always tend to go on a drinking frenzy. I sense a lot of thirst and even though my mouth is not dry I feel as though it is.

for example.. I'll be walking into my home after my roommate is already in there just doing his own thing. as soon as I walk in the house. I see him going from super relaxed and bright to drained and thirsty. ( he's a Navajo medicine man) one of the few people I've seen a white light surrounding him.

but this also happened around my grandmother and great grandfather who raised me.

I'm trying to figure out how it is that I have that effect on people or why.
My wife went to an Aura reader?? and this person went super thirsty as soon as she tried messing around with things. I saw the so called psychic in a dream and the next day I got a call from her apologizing to me.. I think she thought I was going to do something to her??? who knows I told her I had a dream with here in it and messing around with my energy... or rather trying.. I could hear over the phone how much she was drinking. almost like a person who's been stuck out in the desert with a very dry and parched mouth.

I'm trying my best to describe these things to you all in hopes of some insight.
please forgive me for not using terminology most of you all are familiar with but I never knew those words and I describe the things I see how I see them.

[Mowselelex]

your heading of projecting out and the text of people being thirsty ..makes little sense.

are you referring to you astral project which has nothing to do with how you effect others.
or are you referring to your auric field a is large and as it bumps others aura it makes them thirsty.
or are you unknowingly expanding your energy centers and draining others energy centers??????

What I feel with you is you suck peoples energy

whether you realize it or not

you deplete them and it makes them thirsty
it is their bodies need to replenish the drought you created.

do you find people don't want to be around you???or they don't stay friends for long???or they seem to back away from you when you are around???????
it is no reflection on your personality it is possibly your energy fields

I do not know any of this fits you exactly..just throwing my thoughts out to see if any of it resonates with you....


btw..when you ask a question/...people dont always see them. nor come to the forum everyday
so please ..give people time to see and answer. or they need to think about your question before they respond

well I've come to notice people don't see most questions as I've posted this one long ago but it's all good. it forced me to try and find methods for myself. while I still haven't quite understood this particular event, I re-opened many other doors and ways of teaching that were passed down to me long ago

but before I go on

THANK YOU!
I'm not sure but that just could be it.
this may sound bad.. but I know how to purposely redirect energies.. I think these energies are what you call "aura"

as far as people leaving me.. it's the other way around. I'm the one who tends to push people away.
not to sound conceited but I have more people around me who want to be friends or think they're my friends than I can actually handle ha ha ha..
I believe this is because of my personality and how I conduct myself and always reach out to help whoever is in need.

but the depletion of energies hit a bell with me for some reason.

this only happens.. or rather is more noticeable around people who are very saturated in high spiritual energy.

with these people I can see their light energy and whatever shade or color without even trying. normally I have to focus on a person but with people like this I don't have to try as they're always lit up if that makes any sense??

this is when I notice my effect more.. when I see their light flicker... and at times... 3 to be precise the light flickered and then it took shape almost like a flame.. an translucent flame encircling the person and then they headed straight to the faucet to get water as their flame tamed down into a soft glow.. I thought I was Imagining things as these were the first times I saw this.


so maybe the other part of me expanding my energy centers could be it?

if that is the case ho can I hold back?
or rather why would I be expanding? if it's done subconsciously or unconsciously, what could that mean?

I don't consider myself a Vampire like that other member stated as I've given more than I've taken in.

I've take a little bit of energy from one person who gave me permission.. this was part of a teaching / training to see what was ailing her.
I'm very reluctant to take energy from people because of this experience.
I got really sick after and began seeing what I define as demonic figures....

I know I went into another rant here.. but I think you may have hit something there and I thank you for your thoughts and Input on this matter

[PypeMaypetasy]

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[Mowselelex]

So basically he's a psychic vampire?

I've never claimed to be a psychic. i don't know how to read cards or crystal balls or palms and I definitely cannot tell people's future.

the things I can do are those that the person who wants a healing done allow me to do as it is not allowed for us to look into a person or help or perform any type of ceremony without their consent.

[Mowselelex]

No I dont get psychic vampires with him.....they are usually very aware of what they are doing. It is their life.

this is more along the lines of a empathic type of incubus

not saying that is what you are...just rolling things across my mind to see if it fits.

I beleive you are saying empathic beings can pick up your emotions and vice versa

this in turns leaves them dry mouthed and leaves you dry mouthed...am i correct??????

I've never thought of it like that but YES...
in a way...
as it affects those with high energies or lets call it those who have a developed gift whatever it is they have.


but exactly why?
even if it's with people I've met for the first time...

this has been a way for me to tell if someone is for real.
but at the same time what could it mean..

am I overpowering them? I don't mean to honestly...
Am I "feeding" off of them without realizing?? I don't feel their energy being sucked into me....

now that you mention it..
I remember my first trip into the spirit realm ( i think a person here called it astral something) this can be achieved to my people with those of us who have had a near death experience. (I've had 4 near deaths which is probably why it is easier for me than most)
any way I had my mentor there with me. he was there only to observe but even in this state I saw him drink water in all his forms.

[PypeMaypetasy]

maybe it is your body refurbishing...

I dont remember the exact stats on it but the human body is made up of something like 70% water..

got an idea

it may be a form of kinesis...
let me look up soemthing real fast

you are definitely sucking of people lol

[Mowselelex]

or possibly
are you perhaps subconsciously or unconsciously sending healing energy via the solar and heart chakras to these people and it is making them thirsty

or be opened minded enough

to question if you are actually sucking their bad energy uncosciously.
or emotionally sucking their good energy and you just feel good all the time

as they say...the higher the flame the more moths gather around

you apparantly have enough mojo that you scared a psychic...now why is that???? look within for that answer

what is your mentor saying about all this?????
just thinking on paper lol lol lol

Chakras??
lol sorry but I'm not sure what that means.... going to look it up...

hmmm.. interesting...

Maybe I'm indeed sending healing energy to people.
(I lost my way as a child due to series of unfortunate events and all the teachings that were to be passed down to me by my great grandfather slowly dissipated) I've always known there was something to me but it scared me so i tried to suppress it. normally people like me who do that get their gifts stolen.

somehow I lucked out I guess.
but anyway

I do try to help people and I don't know why but I feel like it's something I must do or at least try to.

My mentor talks to me in riddles and smiles as I talk out events of things that happen.

he only has stepped in twice to help me or rather give me energy to fend away certain things he keeps a close eye on me and tells me what i did wrong or what I shouldn't have done. such as that one time with the lady and me sing demonic figures.


but I don't feel good all the time.. only after a good workout and then saying my prayers(meditation) however you want to interpret it.


now I'm trying to figure out why I scared her. or rather why she thought she should be scared of me.

and after much thought i think she felt like this because she tried to invade or mess with my energies through my wife without my permission.
she saw things I was working on and messed things up releasing a spirit out to wander out... It took me a lot of effort to send him back and help him cross over. i was a little irritated by that. but I never meant or had any ill will towards her.

[PypeMaypetasy]

okay somehow you are conencting empathically with energy and water

hjere is a article I worte on hydrokinesis

see if it makes your heart beat faster or feel like wow this is me or something..

remember just an idea I am throwing out there for you

I am wondering if you do this with the water in a human biody instead of a bowl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am aerokenetic
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kinesis
Sun May 13, 2007 subject: Hydrokinesis

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The ability to influence the motion of groups of atoms in their liquid state. Unlike pyrokinesis, nothing is created. The talent merely allows the psionic to influence the motion of liquids (but cannot control the motion of the atoms/molecules to heat up or cool down the liquid). Requires line of sight to manipulate an object.

The exercise to learn this technique is very similar to that of regular PK abilities. I am speaking of the old cork in water exercise, only this time we are not trying to move the cork, we are trying to move the water in which it sits. The only purpose of the cork is to indicate movement in the water.

OK, so you may say "isn't this just PK with water?". Well it can be. But if you want it to be true hydrokinesis, you must establish a real connection with water, and not just the physical substance, but the Element itself. If your natural Element is water then you will probably find this easier than most because you already have an advantage. Spend time in meditation and contemplation, thinking of nothing but the properties, associations, and real feel of water. Totally surround and submerge yourself in it if need be. Take it into your being. Become a master of water.
Become water.

Once you fell you are ready to try true hydrokinesis, do the following:
Take a medium - large bowl and fill it with water. If the bowl is glass this may be easer because you can see all of the water within. Now place a cork or something similar which floats in the bowl and wait for it to settle.
Once it has settled, close your eyes. Sense the water in front of you, feel its energy and merge it with yours. See in your mind's eye the link between you and the liquid. Feel its smoothness, its cool healing properties.
Now try to mimic those feelings within your own energies. You and water are one and the same.
Just as you have control over your own energies, so too do you have control over water.
Open your eyes.
Look at the substence within the bowl. You are a part of it, and it is a part of you. Keeping in mind your connection with it, will the water to move, just as you would with your own energy.
Make it start to swirl in the bowl, always getting stronger, always gaining speed. It is you.
Continue to do this until you feel you have succeded or are in need of rest. Don't over do it on the first few tries.
Have a mental rest, you need it!

[Mowselelex]

maybe it is your body refurbishing...


you are definitely sucking of people lol

hmmm
:/ K thanks for your insight on this

[PypeMaypetasy]

i actually didnt write that article after I read it through

Juan look at chakras
look at healing
look at hydrokenis

but most of all remember the answer will come to you as to what is the truth when you least expect it .
no one can give you the answer..the answer is is the journeyy the search for info.

ask your guides to give you answers as you sleep in visions and in dreams

good luck on your journey

[Mowselelex]

okay somehow you are conencting empathically with energy and water

hjere is a article I worte on hydrokinesis

see if it makes your heart beat faster or feel like wow this is me or something..

remember just an idea I am throwing out there for you

I am wondering if you do this with the water in a human biody instead of a bowl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am aerokenetic
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
kinesis
Sun May 13, 2007 subject: Hydrokinesis

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The ability to influence the motion of groups of atoms in their liquid state. Unlike pyrokinesis, nothing is created. The talent merely allows the psionic to influence the motion of liquids (but cannot control the motion of the atoms/molecules to heat up or cool down the liquid). Requires line of sight to manipulate an object.

The exercise to learn this technique is very similar to that of regular PK abilities. I am speaking of the old cork in water exercise, only this time we are not trying to move the cork, we are trying to move the water in which it sits. The only purpose of the cork is to indicate movement in the water.

OK, so you may say "isn't this just PK with water?". Well it can be. But if you want it to be true hydrokinesis, you must establish a real connection with water, and not just the physical substance, but the Element itself. If your natural Element is water then you will probably find this easier than most because you already have an advantage. Spend time in meditation and contemplation, thinking of nothing but the properties, associations, and real feel of water. Totally surround and submerge yourself in it if need be. Take it into your being. Become a master of water.
Become water.

Once you fell you are ready to try true hydrokinesis, do the following:
Take a medium - large bowl and fill it with water. If the bowl is glass this may be easer because you can see all of the water within. Now place a cork or something similar which floats in the bowl and wait for it to settle.
Once it has settled, close your eyes. Sense the water in front of you, feel its energy and merge it with yours. See in your mind's eye the link between you and the liquid. Feel its smoothness, its cool healing properties.
Now try to mimic those feelings within your own energies. You and water are one and the same.
Just as you have control over your own energies, so too do you have control over water.
Open your eyes.
Look at the substence within the bowl. You are a part of it, and it is a part of you. Keeping in mind your connection with it, will the water to move, just as you would with your own energy.
Make it start to swirl in the bowl, always getting stronger, always gaining speed. It is you.
Continue to do this until you feel you have succeded or are in need of rest. Don't over do it on the first few tries.
Have a mental rest, you need it!

interesting article I will try this.
but to be completely honest I'm not sure what this all means. :P

I come from old teachings and some of these words are foreign to me.. even after I look them up.. ha ha..
but the water meditation seems very interesting..
I will try this..
now what will this accomplish? am I to see if I have control over water?

there are some traditions that I remember doing as a kid. they involved using water, flame, and learning how to read winds. I never finished this training as my Great grandfather passed away.

[Mowselelex]

i actually didnt write that article after I read it through

Juan look at chakras
look at healing
look at hydrokenis

but most of all remember the answer will come to you as to what is the truth when you least expect it .
no one can give you the answer..the answer is is the journeyy the search for info.

ask your guides to give you answers as you sleep in visions and in dreams

good luck on your journey

Thanks!

I will continue to try and figure out exactly what this particular event means.
Healing is what I think I'm geared towards, all the other extras are just that.. well for now that is...

thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

I have a lot of learning to do so that I understand the different terminologies most of you on here use.

[DagoIgnog]

I've never claimed to be a psychic. i don't know how to read cards or crystal balls or palms and I definitely cannot tell people's future.

the things I can do are those that the person who wants a healing done allow me to do as it is not allowed for us to look into a person or help or perform any type of ceremony without their consent.

Being psychic isn't all about fortune telling and props. Empathy is a type of psychic powers where you sense a vibe off of someone.

[Mowselelex]

Being psychic isn't all about fortune telling and props. Empathy is a type of psychic powers where you sense a vibe off of someone.

Please don't get me wrong I do not mean to offend but from my personal experience.. All people who've claimed to be "psychic" have ended out being charlatans.
I think the word itself has been overused and misused which is probably why it turns me off.


I understand there are sensitive(spiritually or psychic to you) people out there who can absorb or relate to another being.
I've run into many. I too if I choose to ( most of the time ) can purposely connect with people to feel what they feel.

I never considered my abilities as powers.. but that might just be your way of stating it.. different vocabulary or terminology.
I was taught that what I have are more of abilities that were bestowed upon select few, a Gift from God.
and no I'm not saying I'm God's gift to the world or any cynical thing like that.

but rather that in accordance to the beliefs of my people and ancestors there are few of us who are chosen.