[Lenny Hensley]

i had an experience not to long ago, dealing with obe's or, "astral projection."
it's been a while since i've had an out of body... but a few months back i would find myself trying to self induce an obe after having a few episodes of sleep paralysis. i took what i knew from sp and what i read online and tried to make my own way of successfully being able to project myself. i don't want to go to much into it, and i very well realize this could be some mental mind trip i am creating for myself and only feeding into my own imagination--- but at-least it provides for some entertainment(hehe).
as stated earlier it has been a while since i've tried to induce obe's simply because the feeling had not presented itself to me like it used to.. well the feeling presented itself to me yesterday morning- and i sent the episode to a friend of mine through private message... i'm going to directly copy and paste... please forgive the informality- i realize i don't come across as respectful as most would on this forum... i am only posting because of my curiosity on energy/vibratory levels... so basically my question is.. was this energy i was feeling? i want to learn more about this energy and also realize that your comments are only mere possibilities towards what the answer really is.. but i'd rather hear some idea's then to sit here in the dark without a clue. so here is the experience directly copy and pasted:
"hey--- i actually wanted to talk to you about an incident i had this morning hehe. it's been a while, so i don't want you to think this is the only reason i am contacting you- of course i like to drop on in and say hello- so hiya smile
how are you? how was your day? enjoying life? hehe
i don't really know why i am posting this--- because i really don't have any specific questions... this could be for validation purposes- or just to hear your two cents on the whole matter at hand...
as stated earlier it was this morning- i was on the verge of falling back asleep. it's been a while since i've tried to self-induce an out of body experience or astral project... i think because my mind has been distracted or the feeling just hasn't been set up right for me to go ahead and open myself up towards such an adventure. this morning was the first time in a long time... i was almost able to remember the process....

i started talking to myself- as most people usually do when trying to go back to sleep....in the beginning the talking is very broad and general covering so many things--- but over time-- the mind stick with one issue... and kind of plays it out in my head--- which i believe is how we construct day dreaming.. which i also believe is how people eventually are able to just let go and fall asleep... so yeah- starts with a bunch of ramble---> draws towards a subject(doesn't matter.. just something/anything)---> plays the scenario out in your mind(day dream)---> which eventually leads to falling asleep...

well i got this feeling i usually get right before i know i can try to, "project" myself. it was like i realized how fast my mind was going--- and i realized how my mind was still playing out a scenario in my head-- as i was thinking to myself separately. so i mentally put aside the day dream and brought it to the back of my mind... still day dreaming-- but i tried to become more physically aware of my surroundings... i started listening to the fan on my dresser, and the fan above me--- and i started listening to the silence...

as soon as i had the feeling like i was able to project.. i tell my body to accept it- and open up towards whatever this feeling is... and usually that is when i hear this noise approaching in my ear... i just lay there and let the noise come- it's this odd frequency-type noise that i can't really explain.. i was better able to explain the noise when i was new to the experience.. but now i'm to the point where i'm getting used to it-- not 100%comfortable.. but not really bothered by it anymore. so once that noise comes...

i tell my mind to project- i try to roll out of my body. i try to pull my head out from the weight of that which is my physical body. this morning however was such a struggle- it was very hard.. as it almost always is.. but i felt something that i have not become to familiar with. and this is my reason towards posting---

i was able to extend my arms out from my physical body... as if i was reaching out... trying to grab on.. and i remember once doing this a bunch of questions as far as why arose in my head. i could almost lift my head out... that was all though- just the front of my hands- finger tips... arms slightly pushed out.. and forehead... for that very small time i was out.. i felt something... it was this unfamiliar vibrational level. perhaps i have felt it before- but it was something new to me or at-least so i thought.

it was as if i could feel everything vibrating against my body... my bedroom- the area i was trying to project in.. it was like waves, rippling with a bunch of... ok it's rather hard to explain- but it's like a bunch of marbles.. circular shaped tiny objects compacted together vibrating against your skin.. it was so intense.. so strong! it was so heavy- and the force of it was beyond something i thought was possible. and not only that- i felt like i could hear the energy. i felt it resonate- and i heard it resonate- and i felt it everywhere... on me- in the room- around me... it was just everywhere.. and it was so so strong- and i could feel.

it didn't last long- i don't know if it was fear or if it was the fact that the energy was just so strong that it pushed my back into my body.. it pushed me back as soon as i had my hands out... and before i got out of bed i just pondered as to what it could be.. but later found myself singing don't worry be happy hehe.. so i know nothing bad came from this..

although the level of energy was so powerful that it was kind of scary- and i think that is why i found myself singing don't worry be happy.. to re-assure myself that it was all going to be ok. i have so many many questions... as far as--- if i'm ready to experience that kind of energy or not... or if i am heading in the right path.. but as the song says- don't worry be happy.. hehe so i'm going to try not to harp on it to long because i have faith it will all be ok in the end anyways..

it was just so strong. it was beyond anything i could have ever comprehended within my own thought.... which makes me know there is more to it... and the fact that i felt it- i could feel... it's just extremely crazy hehe---

and yeah.. i wanted to share that with you since you were pretty much the first person i came to private message on these forums with such issues. hehe--- although i wouldn't really consider this to be an issue. lol-

alright- take care of yourself and please let me know what you think
love,
-eric"


any comments or idea's would be truly appreciated. thanks for reading- thanks for the help... i'm going to pray as far as retaining more information towards what this was... thanks again guys !!
much love,
-eric

[MpNelQTU]

hi air1k,

i used to study and practiced some techniques to project while sleeping. i always failed because i fell asleep. :d . probably too tired and not serious. i did succeeded once though. but i think it was lucid dream rather than obe because at first i was in control of my consciousness then, the dream played me. but the good thing is i managed to remember almost all the events. but now my interest are more on understanding the ascension and contacting my higher self. so i rarely tried to obe now.

what you have experienced from your post is likely a sleep paralysis. i've been there too. i assume you know about this.

regarding the relation with energy. this is just my current understanding. not a fact or probably far from the truth. just an idea.

in 4d the vibration is higher. which means, more information can be stored. which also show, the colours/light in the world will be more vivid. like from 16k colours to 2 million colours. the realism is however i think dependent on what our thought had opened to perceive. i.e if we look at our hand in that world, later on it will dissolve after a while. and to maintain the shape we have to focus. visual senses also go 360. which means to perceive things there as in 3d, we have to emulate our visual senses in this world to that world (focus). if one is not capable in 360 view, they might go dizzy, and probably blacked out. :d

i think projecting ourself to the other realm is currently one of the way to go to 4d. however we can't increase our physical body vibration up to some extent where our body will also go there too due to the veils and the attachments to the earthly materials. most of the problem came from our food and em manifestation around us like tv, radios, handphones etc. it somehow degenerate our body vibration, and mind. (try reading [please pm for name and book]) not to mention our conscious/subconscious fear of leaving this world, loved ones, families, money etc. our body had to split itself to be able to ascend to this 4d.

basically we can train ourselves to become creator there. what we thought is what we will have. the challenge is maintaining the focus or find a way to make that thought alive by itself. you can create your own world there if that thought is strong enough to live by itself. i came to this idea after i read [please email if interested]

[segment discussing another channeller and beliefs]

ra also mentioned about the levels of densities. try to look at it and compare each other.

we are able to go 4d now. but because of the veil/dna restrictions we are not be able to fully ascend. death is probably the only way now to go all 4d. other than that is unlocking our dna strands to be able to easily increase it's vibrations higher than what we could now. after all, our body consists from atoms which also is energy focused into a material. that's my opinion. once we experience all the 4d aspects, maybe we could just go 5d. or the ets might know shortcuts to evolve to 4d or 5d since they had already experienced and understand what it is. who knows. :d

what i still don't understand is the connections on the suppression of dna strands. probably that's the veil ra has been talking about. it might accelerate our growth. but up to what extent, only time will tell. and how to unlock the dna is another question. should we force to unlock it or it will unlock itself when the time comes. my guess is probably the latter. whatever it is our higher-self (if it should be called that way) may hold the key.

still a lot of things to go through. i don't care much whether my information is proven correct or not. because mistakes is also what i need to learn. what do you think?

[Lenny Hensley]

first of all,
thanks urakei for taking the time out and sharing your perception of what this might or might not be- very well put, and i liked your enthusiasm :d!
you made these deductions through personal experience i presume- which is actually beneficial because it helps people going through that certain phase, and it also provides better understanding for yourself. it's my whole reasoning towards almost all of my deductions--- personal experience that is.
i am a very firm believer with the saying-
"with thought we create.
we all think therefore, we all create."

things you have said reminded me of our, "god source" originating from the very essence of thought. this is probably why we have the, holy spirit within us. as you stated in your post, intention is a very important thing.

the ability to focus is a strong tool that will help guide us towards this step of ascending and becoming the definition of our sub-conscious/higher-selfs/spirit-complex.
i'm very interested in learning about energy and vibratory levels. if you have any information(regarding the book you mentioned) you can pm me the author and i will be more then glad to share thoughts with you through private message.

this actually reminds me of a dream i had a while back ago- one of the more important dreams i would say that has left some impact on me- to make a long story short---> i was basically being told by someone that i was dead. time moved on, scenery changed- from there, this person told me anything is possible. he had me turning pencils into towels- and eventually told me if i focus hard enough- and never lose sight of what it is we have in mind-- that we can go anywhere and do anything. in the end of the dream i thought about going to japan- i remember having the intention, and sure enough i was in a building located somewhere in japan- coming out of an elevator on the 46th floor i believe. it could have been the 42nd or 47th(lol it's been a while since i've had the dream) anyways, i remember looking outside and seeing everything covered in an immense, green ocean. waves almost reaching up to my floor- and i realized the building was being carried away by the water.

anyways, thanks for your interest- and thank you for helping me come to realize the importance of our intentions. i would love to talk to you in private message if you wish to share more experiences or just share thoughts on our current understanding-

you're very right about learning through your mistakes. we are always learning, in all shapes and sizes- i can never get enough of it hehe
thanks again and take care of yourself friend,
love-
eric

[xanaxnewtrader]

it sounds like your on the right track when it comes to holding on a thought while flipping into the sleep state. i highly recomend a couple of books and if you want pm me and ill send you the pdf's of each one (thanks supermanny), they have made a massive impact on my life and have helped greatly with understanding astral projection/out of body.

[ScosyGissiok]

hello, everybody! i am here because i am thirsty for knowledge. i want to learn more about the occult, the spiritual, and the paranormal. one of my biggest aims in life is to have an out of body experience. has anybody here had one?

i hope i will make plenty of friends here. this sure looks like a great site.

[ScosyGissiok]

which of the zillions of astral projection techniques do you consider to be the best one? i simply love the rope technique because it works best for me, maybe because it requires no imagination and also because i enjoy rock climbing. so, it is the easiest thing for me to pull up an imaginery rope and find myself out of my body.

[ScosyGissiok]

i have read that astral projection is a relatively safe activity. anyway, we astral project everyday when we are fast asleep. simultaneously, i have also read that astral projection has its dangers, such as meeting demons and negative entities, for example. which of these two views is true? what do you think about it?

[pushokalex1]

hi cosmic, all you have fear is your own fear, as the law of free will protects all.

[syptopsygieds]

thank you urakei-

i think your post reflects living now, in this time- and i am truly grateful

[syptopsygieds]

thank you capt.libra -