[tpdirorg]

i am new here so hello to all and greetings.

my first question is, will this ascension process affect everybody?

and my second question is, do you personally believe that everyone in the world deserves to go through it and exist in this new age?

[Poll Pitt]

well according to the law of one we are essentially all the "same" being, just at different stages in our learning. i believe that every single person on this planet is deserving of ascension, but it comes at different times for different souls. so somebody who has not developed sufficiently in their lifetimes in third density might miss out on this current ascension, but they should be ready for the next one on whatever planet they are on.

[Kubasarika]

i have not read the materials that would bring one to this forum so i do have lots of questions until i get to the material.

in regards to ascension...

when you read things like icke and the theories on reptilian invasion, and you consider the downright evilness that is playing out on this planet, should we anticipate that all these people who seem so evil to the core, that they are of the same genetic code, on the same path, hold the same potential to evolve?

[tpdirorg]

i have not read the materials that would bring one to this forum so i do have lots of questions until i get to the material.

in regards to ascension...

when you read things like icke and the theories on reptilian invasion, and you consider the downright evilness that is playing out on this planet, should we anticipate that all these people who seem so evil to the core, that they are of the same genetic code, on the same path, hold the same potential to evolve?

sorry please forgive me im not sure that im familiar with the reptillian invasion
are you talking about aliens?

[Kubasarika]

well you would have to look at david icke's work.(pm for url)

he says a reptilian genetic code has invaded some families. these tend to be families and institutions of power.. i don't know that i believe it but it is his attempt to explain the foulness of some of the powermongers on the planet today. i don't hang on this site but have looked around. it deals with a lot of very negative stuff that i feel pulls my vibration down, but that does not mean that it could not be true, in part anyway.

they are alien, but not all aliens are reptilian.

so, in the theory of oneness, that this forum presents, are people who are of such foul nature, are they they same in essence as light bearers, in that they have the same potential for ascension?

it seems that their work is no anti light that it may reflect a truly different genetic lineage.

[Vokbeelllicky]

ascension is all about the frequency of your own individual consciousness. so long as you are not holding your consciousness at low frequencies, you will ride the wave so to speak. check out this video of what happens to quartz sand particles as they are exposed to different sound frequencies. notice how the higher the sound frequency the more complex and dense the geometric shape of the pattern formed becomes.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...lzyugoca&hl=en

as david discussed in the 2012 enigma video, this may be a clear demonstration the way that all material things are constructed. this includes you dna. you dna is not going to be transformed by sound. however as the frequency of the aether / consciousness / torsian fields and etc. are increased it might have a similar effect on your dna. only time will tell if this proves true.

so by deserving you might be thinking of perhaps there would be those judged to be worthy or not. this more than likely is not the case. so long as you are allowing yourself to be in a peaceful state of mind consciously and subconsciously when we reach the appropriate frequencies, you will transform in a similar fasion to the way the sand does on the plate.

[Marat]

i am new here so hello to all and greetings.

my first question is, will this ascension process affect everybody?

and my second question is, do you personally believe that everyone in the world deserves to go through it and exist in this new age?

you can google "ascension q", its a body of research explaining the process of ascension and related material covering ascension. the ideas, concepts, imagery and video references all give key information in explaining the work as a whole as well.

[freflellalafe]

the simple answer to the first and original question is yes - we are all deserving. that is not in question. you see, the universe, the creator, the consciousness field, the energy, its all acceptance and love.

regardless of your actions, you are loved. people may not like to hear it but even jeffry dahmer and hitler were loved by the higher powers. that is the true unity.

in order to understand how this can be, you have to evolve your way of thinking, but first let me make a disclaimer that this may come off sounding 'cold', or even that i 'condone' what people like dahmer and hitler did, or try to make less of it, im really not. i dont condone it.

but we have to also remember that murder of the physical vessel is inconsequential as opposed to the murder of your soul (if thats even possible). im using murder as an example because thats usually viewed as the top negative thing. some might also say enslavement is above even that, but im using murder as an example here of the worst set of negativity.

when someone is murdered, they dont die. only their physical vessel dies. their soul moves on to its next journey. the person who commits this act, has a long way to go towards enlightenment, but they are still of us, of the collective consciousness.

there just is no hate at the highest level. until we gain that level, we will still always be learning, and always have a catalyst to confront us in such a manner that it can be seen as 'negative' to us. though what is deemed negative to us here in 3d may be something entirely in 4d.

so in the end, yes, all are deserving. it falls down to us, what we choose to be, that determines how much farther we grow and ultimately, ascend. it is not the higher power that determines whether or not we can move on... it is us. we are our own obstacle.

according to the loo material, it will affect everyone, although as david says often, not everyone will notice anything immediately. some will need to be shown. eventually those who choose to remain negative, make their choice to stay in a 3d environ, etc.

so everyone has a ticket to the new age, or 4d... there is no doubt they have the ticket. but its up to them to go up to the ticket counter, stamp their ticket, and enter the higher realm.

i hope im making sense here lol

[Dumpishchaism]

i don't think it hurts to get people to start thinking without imposing on thier free will, maybe for some or looking for an answer but cannot find it. with a little guidance from others to show them the door and still have to figure it out for themselves to find what reconsiles with them.

for myself i was not any different a few years ago, before seeking my own answers. i guess my issue is helping without imposing on freewill. so it would be not giving the answers but help find the answers. it is not easy especailly when people are stubborn to open thier hearts which is difficult but easy at the same time.

its really all about patience and sometimes thats hard and thats alright. everyone as a whole on this planet are good, but with bad thoughts that pollute the mind.

[freflellalafe]

i don't think it hurts to get people to start thinking without imposing on thier free will, maybe for some or looking for an answer but cannot find it. with a little guidance from others to show them the door and still have to figure it out for themselves to find what reconsiles with them.

for myself i was not any different a few years ago, before seeking my own answers. i guess my issue is helping without imposing on freewill. so it would be not giving the answers but help find the answers. it is not easy especailly when people are stubborn to open thier hearts which is difficult but easy at the same time.

its really all about patience and sometimes thats hard and thats alright. everyone as a whole on this planet are good, but with bad thoughts that pollute the mind.

this is the most important lesson for anyone... a careful line to tread is not to impose ones views on another. we are not alone, but we must walk a solitary path in our spiritual evolvement. its like, you have to leave the pack, to ultimately unite with the pack.

no one can be taught really, or told. we can only guide by example ourselves, and they have to come to us. by coming to us, they are coming of their own free will.

[FYvWldC0]

for people not into a spiritual lifestyle or into all the concepts wilcock et al talks about but are of a sto nature, then a sudden thrust into telepathic interconnectedness will be far from harmonious.

infact, those who have'nt had a strong meditation and/or entheogenic experience, this shift could be nightmarish... for the type of person who wishes not to reveal there secrets.

[TerriLS]

no,

i dont think so, we are on all different paths, some more advanced, i believe the loo, there will be a harvest, eventually we all get there, the world is round!

[prearpaccew]

everybody deserves to move exactly where they need to be. vibrational resonance aligns all to its proper place. the vibration of each individual draws exactly what they require to them. whether consciously displayed or not, we have all already made our choices, now we must simply understand them. such is the harvest.

to hardknocksoldi3r: to ascend into 4d, it is not a question of "must be" 51% positive. there are both negative and positive ascensions. according to ra one must be 51% or more service to others or 95% service to self. the universe is an equal opportunity ascender.

[wantedLOX]

everybody deserves to move exactly where they need to be. vibrational resonance aligns all to its proper place. the vibration of each individual draws exactly what they require to them. whether consciously displayed or not, we have all already made our choices, now we must simply understand them. such is the harvest.

to hardknocksoldi3r: to ascend into 4d, it is not a question of "must be" 51% positive. there are both negative and positive ascensions. according to ra one must be 51% or more service to others or 95% service to self. the universe is an equal opportunity ascender.

i do realize this. i did not emphasize my explanation because i was frusterated. as one mentioned above, there is a lack of guidance, not only a painful amount of deceptive influences.

[prearpaccew]

i do realize this. i did not emphasize my explanation because i was frusterated. as one mentioned above, there is a lack of guidance, not only a painful amount of deceptive influences.

all is well, i just wanted to ensure that the ra text was given in its entirety.

continue spiraling.

[wantedLOX]

who knows that they will ascend?

lets consider that i am talking about positive polarity. according to ra, if a lower energy center is not "up to par" then that person will most likely not ascend. to ascend into 4d, you must be positively polarized, or 51% or more service to others. many things come into play when "harvest" time comes along. i'm not too worried about what will happen near 2012, many others are. i am battling through my dysfunctions, which have halted energy flows through me. i guess its my own fault according to the one, which is tough to digest.

what concerns me is that i seek awarenes of whats going on and seems to be going slow, and that my part in it will fall obscure if i'm not very close to ascending since i'm going to have to serve another nice chunk of time (25960? years) in 3d. so if i'm no where close, then i should stop worrying so much about it, but i have a strong urge to continue and had an urge to find this info from scratch when i was 19. i'm 21.

according to ra, it doesnt matter how many people make it to 4d, what matters is that the ones applicable for 4d will ascend. they also said if their work through channeling helps one person, then it helps all. david also follows this understanding.

this makes sense in that the ones who request information will get it in one form, way or another. uninvited beings or information is against free will, so thats why positive entities have not visited us in mass to the public and why the government is holding it back imo. they are not ready. the mayans requested it, and so they were visited and given tech.

i think earth is an uncommonly difficult planet to learn from when compared to ra's 4d ascencion.

so what's the best indication that we will be ascending?