[delnisfernan]

ok, i just watched (actually i just listened to the mp3 version) of this interview with miriam delicado, and i must say that i really don't understand why kerry and bill find this so fascinating. i mean, this woman is obviously manipulated by nordics. and, there are even grays involved with them!

is it just me or is project camelot starting to turn in a bit wrong direction?? i also didn't like the george green interview, and ever since then, i think camelot hasn't been the same.

and it's no wonder.. they've been out there for quite long, they became quite popular, and if anyone with a certain agenda (human or non-human) wanted to misinform us, they could have just sent them some people to ruin the overall picture.

i think we should watch out even more for what we accept there... it's not the same, and i'm darn sure of it.

what do you think?

[spklnraz]

i have the same feeling about them. just listened to the latest george green stuff and it just does not resonate with me. nuclear war fallout and stuff like that. i have heared several times that nuclear war is not allowed to happen on earth anymore and i believe that. i also believe that the timelines really have changed and that our future (not even the near future) is not dire. i maybe misled, but i am truly optimistic about the future and i am happy that the changes in the economy and the world are starting to take place.

regarding kerry and bill, even in the interviews with david you can sense that they do not share his very optimistic view of our future. they have a problem with that. they seem to go more in the direction of people telling them negative things that they suppose to happen.

like david always says: listen to your inner voice and guidance and you will find the truth and the right path for you.

[Amirmsheesk]

hello wintersun

i have the same gutfeeling, i didn't like the george green- nor the s:t clairvideos and as i stated in another thread, how could i possibly trust the latter, astrologically predicting sarah palin will be president, stating that she is a hope for the world representing the upcoming female balancing on earth she even rejects abortion for rape- and incestvictims...

talking about being exactly what he accuses david wilcock for being -forgot the proper term -anyway, brainwashed or monitored by negative montauk entities, projecting his own shadow onto another...

liliane the mercurytransitdisinformationmessenger.

[ZIDouglas]

like any of the folks being interviewed by project camelot, miriam brings a piece of the truth. it's up to you and me to discern what parts are true and what is misinformation. i don't think there has been any kind of change in the reliability of project camelot. the change is in the world situation, which carries a sense of urgency. that may be prompting bill and kerry to "overhype" the latest info. we would do well to maintain an open and critical mind as ever before. "true belief" and "devoteeship" are dangerous traps.

yes, miriam delicado and george green are influenced by their et contacts. yes, they may be spreading untruths and/or fear without intending to. no, that does not mean we should adopt a suspicious mindset. it only underscores the importance of listening to ourselves first and last.

[Izzy]

miriam delicado was a flop. she didn't say anything of value for me at least. just warnings and empty words. i don't know if this reflects on their host so much, we all have to discern what we take in.

[FYvWldC0]

regarding kerry and bill, even in the interviews with david you can sense that they do not share his very optimistic view of our future. they have a problem with that. they seem to go more in the direction of people telling them negative things that they suppose to happen.
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maybe they just dont beleive that in 5 years we'll all be able to fly and make things appear by thinking about them.

[Amirmsheesk]

..mercury-retrograde-disinformationmessenger...doing things over at least twice...

liliane

[TaxSheemaSter]

pc has absolutely been misled -- i'm convinced of this. think about just one event that miriam spoke about: her being chased by lights. what has been one of the central messages ra and other benevolent entities have taught us (?) ... do not impinge upon other peoples' free will.

what kind of entity follows a group of people (instilling fear in them), waits until those people go through a small town as they hope of losing them, chases them again, forcibly puts one of them to sleep and instructs (orders, bullys ?!?!) the other one to get out of the vehicle and follow their instructions?

do you think ra would ever do this to anyone?

would you? poor miriam is being toyed with and manipulated--no doubt in my mind about that.

most people on the projectavalon forum are of the same opinion. i wrote the following message there and have received positive messages in return:

hey all,

just finished watching the interview and my thoughts kind of kept going back to ... believe it not ... david wilcock. i think it was in the futuretalk video (where dw was wearing that gold sash or whatever) he mentioned that project camelot seems to draw a lot of negative energy (through no fault of their own) in the interviews they conduct.

don't get me wrong--this was an excellent and professionally conducted interview, but i was forced to walk away with that doom and gloom vibration which just doesn't augur too well with me anymore. i absolutely believe people like george green and miriam delicado or alex jones believe the things they uncover, but the idea of this "world calamity ... we're all going to be burnt alive in an agonizing armageddon" just doesn't feel right. (i would highly reccommend watching the channeled messages of a british lady named '[pm for name please]' on youtube).

project camelot should actually take this as a compliment because it means whatever higher beings are manipulating cosmic consciousness are purposefully targeting bill and kerry in order to make their audience (which is growing by leaps and bounds pretty much daily) to: live in fear.

and if i may be so bold as to say: the aliens themselves might be wrong. so what if some nordic et from a far-off place in the milky way "sees" world calamity (?) ... ... for all we know ... sven from nordic-ville might be wrong himself. the take-home message from ra and the collective entity of 9 winged beings which have been channeling through [name], plus the newest burish testimony all point to the hopless armageddon scenario timeline hovering near a probability of zero. and i think i orient myself toward these messages.

[Amirmsheesk]

hi!

i think it's extremely difficult to keep a balanced view and mind when you're working like bill and kerry, gathering and focusing on so much information...do they ever take a break like barbara hand clow recommends and put chattering mercury retrograde into a box and a lid on top, walk into the woods, meditate and let the collective hysteria tend for itself for a while?

i think the information they're providing is important; i've been myself up til recently focused on "what's wrong with the world"/what's the elite and institutionalized robbers up to next"??? but for me personally i don't need more fearful information at the moment; we are all in different cycles in our life and my current nmantra is: the more hysterical and speedy the "world" gets (which i'm part of of course) the more i slow down and try to look for the beauty...it almost is imperative to do if you can...if noone keeps calm we will collectively spin out of control.....but that will not happen.

liliane transiten

[Eujacwta]

so far on their site the one thing that resonated with me the most was [please email for names](sp).

i agree, you can only trust yourself and your inner voice at this point.

paul

[Geetiill]

thank you wintersun for posting this, and to all of you that have shared your thoughts. i too was left feeling uncomfortable and that bill & kerry had gone off course a bit with these interviews.

thought it was interesting that "feelings" and "discernment" came up in almost every post.

trust those gut feelings and ask, (pray, request) for discernment to be able to know what is true and what is not.

love & light

alloura

[Overlord]

i've been saying, for some time now, that project camelot is greatly mislead. i've read so many things from them that made absolutely no sense. it's almost disheartening to know that they are spreading fear while they think that they're doing the public a service.

[arrasleds]

i am also a regular camelot/avalon visitor. personally i cannot assess with any degree of accuracy whether kerry and bill have been 'overly' effected by negative reports on world events/unfoldments. they can only report on what is there, and like most of us they will have personal opinions about those reports. unless verifiable alternative information is forthcoming which centres around positive conclusions to world events, they will have to react to the 'whistleblowers' in the way that they do.

i find that most peoples 'gut reactions' differ greatly according to their understanding. bill and kerry have as yet not displayed any tendencies to preach distortions of any kind, and so...for myself i think it wise to withold judgement of their conduct for the time being.

i guess wise discernment is the order of the day, and i (and no doubt many others) shall monitor their activities very carefully.

[paratayoma]

people's minds are naturally attracted to doom and gloom. it's almost like we are addicted to the fear. we like to imagine all these apocaliptic scenarios.

i like to be very careful with anything that comes from people that have been physically contacted(traveling in their ships, being taken from their beds, etc) in this manner. it always seems like they come back with contradictory messages both within their own experience and compared to the contacts of others.

regardless of their apparent intent i dont think you can trust the nordics and the greys. the best thing to do is to take their advice about loving other people and ending war and forget all the prophecies and mythology about where humans came from. ive lost count of all the aliens that have claimed they created humankind or gave us some alternative version of genesis.

[JetePlentuara]

well, no matter what path they are on, is it fair for us to claim that we know any different? we are following our "gut" and going off of information that is some of our own and some from others, right? i'd say thats pretty similar to what they are doing, even if they are misled. now, im not saying that they are surely right in all they do and say, but...

all we can do is hear the world out and discern what rings true with us and what doesnt. i'm just glad that they are sitting everything on the table that used to scare me (true or false) and im not scared of it anymore and im even better at deciding what i feel is real and what is not. every bit of information or mis-information is only helping us assimilate the properties of this world and its operations into our minds. and i think that will help us in the future. at least they are passionate about something and not just robots in hibernation mode, i guess.

although they may be mis-informed about some things, i feel that they are more ready in a way for the switch coming. it seems to me as if they are expecting the worst and hoping for the best, and i cant say that thats not a halfway ok way to go about it, although i wouldnt put myself on that path. if they are preparing for "the worst" and get something much better with a transition into 4d and the amazing things that come with it, then its better than resisting any change and not being prepared in any way, right?

their information is coming from so many places that a lot of it probably gets jumbled or dished out via the opinion (coupled with experiences) of the disher. even david says that its easy for a channeller to "put their own spin" on their experiences and sometimes lose the meaning, so i would apply that frame to this situation as well.

with project camelot, i keep the things i need and i leave the rest behind...and wouldnt you say thats a good way to experience life in general? i will still always tune into their stuff...some "info" is better than none, and im glad i have the opportunity to at least see whats out there and then make my own mind up from there...

[delnisfernan]

like any of the folks being interviewed by project camelot, miriam brings a piece of the truth. it's up to you and me to discern what parts are true and what is misinformation.

yeah, but the only truth there is that nordics (orions?) really are good pals with grays (zeta reticuli?), at least we got a nice confirmation on that hehe :d

[delnisfernan]

ps. these dudes on project avalon really seam to like this interview! i actually can't believe it.

oh well..

[Qxkmsxsx]

i read a bit in their new forums and i really had a hard time finding people in there, that are spiritual at all. all i read was about doom and preparations, i especially read in a german thread, because i`m german and was interested what other people from germany have to say. all i found was questions on how to prepare physically, which parts of germany will have the most destruction or will be under water. people thinking about moving to safer places, planning on how to recreate civilisation after the catastrophes.
one person knew the law of one and believed in it he said, but in the same sentence he asked where he could buy survival food and equipment.

i didnt see anyone talking about the fact that you have to be spiritually prepared or actually believing in a spiritual event in 2012.

i also have to agree on project camelot being more and more distorted with untruths. at the beginning i listened to every talk until dan burish or so and it was quiet interesting, but also confusing. and for some reason like 6 months ago or so, i stopped listening to their stuff and now i`m realizing why i did so.

if i have to lay in bed after listening to one of their interviews, because i`m so confused and my thoughts are running around like crazy and i feel really sick in my stomach , it can`t be a good sign, in opposition to a interview of david wilcock that makes me totally happy and gives me the security that all is the way it should be.

i really dont know how i could keep a clear mind about all these things going on in the world and the disinformation being spread on the net, without david wilcock and the law of one material.

love & light, frederik.

[ticskebasse]

i think the folks at project camelot are about as brave and honest as you're likely to find these days on the internets. i think their work is timely and valuable for what it is -- an ongoing investigation into the emerging fringe-related issues of the moment. whether or not their perspective accords with mine is not important at all to me: i thrive on difference and diversity in these matters, and truly need it in order to clarify my own ongoing intuitive sense, which changes on a daily basis now.

dissing these folks for their angle is to me perhaps the inevitable result of the times we're in. each of us has got to shave our sense of what's real as close to the bone as we feel we need to in order to have our own sense of what is. i do get the fear vibe -- definitely -- emanating from them, but i wouldn't want to dismiss them on that basis. nordics and greys? okay, good -- thanks for reflecting this back in a critical light. it's important to notice that detail.

for me, the moment at this time is so ripe with emerging possibilities that i can see bill and kerry performing an essential public outreach function despite their biases -- one that could very well render those biases obsolete at a moment's notice depending on the change in the cosmic weather here on planet earth. uncertainty is the measure of all incoming forecasts about the future, for me anyway.

all that said, i'll take my daily dose of project camelot fare, if only for the fiber.... good grist, i say!

[Amirmsheesk]

hi frederik

i resonate a lot with what you say here, and i've expressed almost the same thing in the sept 9interviewthread. at the same time one has to be thankful for the work bill and kerry are doing, putting all this information on the table, as kassandralove and others said. we truly live in the 3d of paradoxes. this issue is like acknowledgeing your shadow and contain it within, not "project camelot it out" on bill and kerry....

liliane