[Galinastva]

hi all,

i found this website after going through the youtube videos, and finding them absolutely fascinating, so hi everyone.
i hope to open a discussion about the world as it is now. prior to obama's election, there was obviously alot of negativity, particularly in the press, and in relation to the actions of the us government. during this time, alot has been said about the greater agenda of more powerful entities above the nations government, all culminating to events leading up to 2012.
my general understanding, relating to the theories about 2012 is that it gets worse before it gets better. 4 years from now, it is feasible to anticipate that real solutions will be in place.

however, i do not live in america. for americans, the world appears to perhaps be through the worst of it, and now it is time to re-build, and i think this is a wonderful thing if indeed your new leader is as true to his word as he says he is and not the most well placed sales representative the world has seen since adolf hitler. i regret refering to obama and hitler in the same sentance, however if obama's intentions were any less than genuine then it would just be history repeating itself. i hope not to have offended anyone in saying that.

i, however live in australia. and our current situation (from my own humble perspective) goes like this.
we too, at our last election voted out a much loathed political party, and leader who'd been in office for far too long - we dont have a 2 term limit. we thought we were voting in 'real change' as well. and in the first days of office, alot of low-commitment pr work was actioned straight away. however, the whole country grinds to a halt these days as particularly state governments are forever in the news for their various corrupt activities.

for eg: you might have heard about bushfires which were basically on the same scale as hurricane katrina in their powers of destruction. many homes could have been safe, had fire prevention methods been approved by government bodies.

but greed still rules, as the government would rather pursue a public handout of less than a thousand dollars to every tax payer in order to 'boost the economy', as well as build a several billion dollar compulsory internet filter that has classified block, rather than to divert these funds to assisting those stricken by the tragedy.

the hidden/personal agenda prevails in this developed country, and even worse in other less developed countries looking at the world abroad.

i have alot of respect for david wilcock, and what he has to say, as well as such other comentators as michael tsarion. however it concerns me greatly that the entirety of humanity's direction seems to be dictated by whoever is in power in america. i dont see the human race narrowly escaping clutches of evil forces simply because bush is out of office.

i don't seek to criticise what david is saying however i really would love to hear what he has to say about the state of the world abroad, on the subject of 2012, and it being 4 years from now.

p.s: synchronicity for me means 3:28.
the time that for no apparent reason i have been waking up in the am. as well as the time i look at my pc clock when it occured to me to mention the subject of synchronicity!! wow hey!

[Galinastva]

apologies for anyone reading the above post - i made a few typeographical errors! please ignore those and go with the general gist

p.p.s - mods, apologies for the dupe-topic 2nd post. that 2nd one's redundant!

[johnteriz]

nice post, i really like to read about the international ongoings as well...i tend to stay clear of the media, so i often appear as an "idiot." i wish well to you and your in australia.


i cant speak for the people running this country, but i do understand of the impact they do aquire for the rest of the world, and i truly and deeply hope that this is the "healer" we have been waiting for. to me so much of it lays not on the sole responsibility of our "leader" but the motivation that the "leader" can share with us in order to understand that it is going to take all of us to create great change. he cant do it alone, and one thing that i respect and love about obama, is his creative way of expressing that he does want change, but he also makes each and every person (especially those whom support and value his opion) to work hard, to remain positive, to bring change, to create hope, and to actually do somtehing, rather then wait for the leader to take it all on and change it for us....we should have learned that if we expect someone else to do the changing, that we end in results that are unsatisfactory for our desires.

what i think is one of the gratest attibutes to obama "leadership" is his amazing ability to motivate...motivation is what will bring on the steps in order to lead this world into a more compassionate and "one" guided world....

the change in the human spirit is happening, i can sence it each day in the people that i meet, it's not everyone right now, but it's happening, and it's a beautiful and hopeful thing to experience, this number will grow as the motivation takes over the land, or so i feel.

blessed be, with love and light to you,

[V8V8V8]

i see obama's election as being symbolic of the state of consciousness of the entire planet and not just the united states. although in this reality we are divided by international borders we are really all in this together. my experiences with travel have proved to me that people in different countries are remarkably similar. there are obviously cultural differences such as the clothes people wear and the food they eat but in the grand scheme of things these are just superficial differences.

i'm sure in time we will all see positive changes in the way our countries are run. the changes in governments in the developed countries such as the us and australia have showed that the people are not prepared to accept a continuation of the corruption that has been going on and people have also got sick of the way their countries have exploited the developing countries. people are generally more aware of how their choices affect others and this is demonstrated by the growing popularity of ethical shopping for example.

we have have discussed the fact that our own collective consciousness is reflected in the way the world is governed and with the raising of vibrations all over the planet this is inevitably going to filter through to our governments. here in the uk we have witnessed many positive developments over the past few weeks with the astonishing greed of the bankers who have basically controlled this country being well and truly exposed. 10 years ago there is no way this would have happened. the banks had continued paying their executives astronomical bonuses despite having to be propped up by the taxpayer. people have finally realised that the greed of a few has caused many of the country's problems.

just today i have witnessed a very positive development with regards to the british prime minister, gordon brown. he has been visiting barack obama in washington dc and it has been encouraging to see the natural rapport that seems to be there between them. brown's speech to congress was also very well received, particularly when he mentioned his commitment to work with obama to tackle the greed of the super-rich and crack down on offshore tax havens. there is no doubt in my mind that things are changing for the better, not only in the united states but also overseas.

[Unrersvar]

hi auroranoir.

i know what you mean about the australian federal and state governments.

it seems like this country just swings back and forth between mediocrity and mediocrity.
there just isn't a real representation of people going on here.

[Tusanoc]

i always look at it from the point of view of a river. when you set out in a small boat upstream, you're almost absolutely certain that you'll end up downstream. on the same river.

however every time the river branches it becomes less certain where you will end up... every human choice can be considered a branching.

some aspects like mountains and valleys in the terrain will have an influence inspite of our choices. and the ocean is going to be there in the end no matter what.

so a lot is cast in stone, and a lot is not.

you say quantum physics negates the idea that we can see the future. i don't see that. can you elaborate on that?

[Sowsunese]

according to the law of one. there are no "leader's" in 4th density. we have then become self responsnable. we recieve what we give. furthermore, in terms of real tangible proof that represents this ideology is ron paul. i do not take sides in the manner of opinion. it is worthless, (as david has stated in his last posting), the battle is what is desired by certain forces. there need not be a battle. the battle is within you, resolve it and you shall become into the grace of oneness. it does not matter who leads, they are only reflecting your enegy. obama is no god, ron paul is no god, david is no god, i am no god, you are no god we are god.

do not look to iconic figures, screw all of them, this system shall break down in order to rebirth itself.

welcome to the future, i root for it to change as quickly as possible. regardless, of the potential hardship. and yes there will be hardship. but there will also be light.

nelson

[SteantyjetMaw]

if we create our reality then how would someone know the future. because there are an infinite number of probable futures?

interesting bit of wordplay there, billusion. speaking just for myself, i don't find verbal chains descriptive of ontological issues to be all that compelling as "proving" much of anything. i especially think that it's rather overly optimistic to believe that one is able to capture quantum activity within verbal activity, wouldn't you think?

even stepping back from that, all it takes to "prove" anything verbally is to obtain agreement to your assumption, then you can "prove" anything.

for instance, i can prove to you that neither you nor your argument even exist. "billusion" contains "illusion," therefore it is illusory, and cannot produce anything real. but does that change you as a person? like chaucer said, talk is one thing, but increasing the size of one's house by talking about it is another thing altogether.

still, interesting bit of wordplay. can you do anything else with words? write poetry? inspire people? offer healing? those are the things i consider real. again speaking just for myself, "quantum physics" is just two words, no different from any other 2 words like "duckling potassium" or "illusory artichoke" or "potato bait" or "rockabilly genuflect." does any of it have any reality? only if it changes the soul, and i am not including reducing the soul's value via inducing self-doubt. i mean things that help the soul to grow and become the light that it is.

you did inspire me to toss out a bit of free verse, though. what do you think it says about you and me?

two words
any two
confine spirit
set free
grow tall
destroy all
make choice
choose well

-- deerclan, 3/5/2009

[aabbaDE]

current poli-eco trends and 2012 relate with each other. the difference is we can name things right now that are affecting us, such as our agricultural system fluctuating and causing starvation, or political systems being devestated by fraud, ineptness and such... this is happening world wide. africa, asia, all frauds, everyone everywhere, they are all frauds. 2012 is about entering a new refined energy never seen before, because only we have control going into it and what comes out of it. so there will be a collapse of the old system, because we do not have words to define what we trying to accomplish. that's the way it's meant to be. we can't know the future.

[Galinastva]

deerclan:
loved your post. i love it when religious arguements turn to recursion. its actually a very popular essay topic in sociology/philosophy courses. they skirt around the issue, but language wise, it boils down to mathematica recursion!

nirvanapirate: thankyou for your response. i admire your optimism. that is to say, i hope you are correct.

for anyone out there who's intersted. have a read of the little prince. on first glance, it appears to be a children's book, but the statements it makes are quite profound in regard to the human condition.