[majestictwelve]

i love doing this, and you can do it anywhere, even without a mirror once you train your eyes to this technique. for example, i'll be at the beach and i'll stare at a spot on the sand. everything goes dark and you get a really calm and peaceful feeling... the same one you feel when you get into that zone when mirror gazing.

[Controller]

hi wanderman,
i read this on llresearch awhile ago. carla mentions mirror gazing in her speech aug. 10, 2007 given at mackinac island (carla's niche/speeches).



www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_2007_0810.aspx#_ftnref12

[Cucoulkrory]

i stumbled upon this the other day while staring at myself in the mirror (i'm a bit of a narcissistic sob) and my vision got dark and smoky, kind of like i was going blind...i was getting blind spots, and i noticed by body outlined in light, and other weird things, like my entire body would turn black like a silhouette, my face would sort of mutate/devolve into a sort of zombie-like face, and then other peoples' faces would superimpose onto mine, my head turned into a big formless black void, i saw a little alien dude's face and lots of other different faces. it was a little freaky but i could stop it at any time by refocusing my eyes. no i wasn't on any drugs.

i had known nothing about mirror gazing before this event, so i googled "seeing other peoples faces in the mirror" and learned this was a fairly popular thing. have any of you guys ever tried this?

[Susanleech]

wanderman,
the eyes are and have been the windows to the soul! mirrors provide a portal to seeing within when one is using proper meditational methods. i have in the past used a mirror t meditate and seek my inner higher self. in my case the image disappeared completely and i was able to go into a very deep level of meditation which was quite rewarding. i don't have any answers to your experience as every individual is a differnt manifestation of the one.

i would definitely spend some time in meditation seeking an answer from your higher self regarding what you have seen. may i suggest that daily, you mentally and spiritually build a veil of light around yourself, (using a meditational practice) to avoid whatever greeted you as you have described. if you are devoted to seeking the service to others path, you may indeed encounter those who would thwart you.

[SteantyjetMaw]

i had known nothing about mirror gazing before this event, so i googled "seeing other peoples faces in the mirror" and learned this was a fairly popular thing. have any of you guys ever tried this?

wander-man, i tried something similar once. there is a yoga technique of mirror-gazing. it is based on a fact of how visual input is perceived by the nervous system. almost as soon input enters the nervous system, it quickly gets adapted. as a practical example, you can put your hand in warm water and it feels warm at first, but the longer you leave your hand in the water, the less you feel it because your nervous system adjusts itself to it.

with the eyes, there is something more specific. the eyes are continually moving, even though we don't even notice it. those tiny movements are called "nystagmus," and our vision depends on it.* (when this system becomes disordered, "nystagmus" is also the name of the disorder. confusing, i know.) however, if we train ourselves to sit quietly and not move our eyes, a strange thing happens. our vision starts to fade out. i have done this myself, and anybody can do it. i never got to the next stage.

apparently what happens after that is that whatever you see after your normal vision fades is no longer the result of your physical eye doing the perceiving. people supposedly "see" through their third eye after that. i have never been able to do that, because for some reason i start to freak once my vision fades. (guess i'm just an old 3rd-density mudball who can't deal with the other dimensions. lol)

in a nutshell, this is one experience that is verifiable through regular old scientific research. so your sanity is *not* at stake.


* scientific citation: http://www.tchain.com/otoneurology/p...nystagmus.html

[hopertveyk]

wander-man, i tried something similar once. there is a yoga technique of mirror-gazing...

apparently what happens after that is that whatever you see after your normal vision fades is no longer the result of your physical eye doing the perceiving. people supposedly "see" through their third eye after that. i have never been able to do that, because for some reason i start to freak once my vision fades. (guess i'm just an old 3rd-density mudball who can't deal with the other dimensions. lol)

deerclan, thanks for your interesting writeup on the yoga technique of mirror-gazing. i had never heard of that.

normally i'm pretty good at doing research on the web, but i'm at a loss as to what to look for on this subject that you described. do you have any links or recommendations on keywords to google for this?

thanks a bunch!

peace,
john

[SteantyjetMaw]

deerclan, thanks for your interesting writeup on the yoga technique of mirror-gazing. i had never heard of that.

normally i'm pretty good at doing research on the web, but i'm at a loss as to what to look for on this subject that you described. do you have any links or recommendations on keywords to google for this?

thanks a bunch!

peace,
john

john, i wish i could offer you more information on it. however, the info i just shared is info i learned from a fellow grad student in social psychology at the university of georgia in 1975. he and i were "renegades" who were interested in consciousness, which is a legitimate branch of social psychology, but it was not supported by anyone on the faculty at the time. i don't know what became of him, but i ended up so discouraged with it that i eventually ended up dropping out & getting a masters in social work instead. so unfortunately, it's just one of those stray facts in my organic data bank. i initially googled "nystagmus" to find the link that establishes the validity of the term as i used it, but that's all i did. possibly you could search some combination of adaptation, retina, neuron, & vision to come up with something. most likely that information would be primarily in academic journals, which are hard to come by unless you have access to a big database. (i drive 15 miles to the nearest state university when i want that sort of info, for instance.)

if you can't find anything, pm me and let me know, & i'll see if i can come up with some more stuff.

[TaxSheemaSter]

hey wander-man,

yes (!), i've done mirror-gazing ... ... and no that's doesn't mean you're a narcissistic sob (well, at least not the first part).

you must be sober--don't do any kind of trippy drug (always a good policy to follow) and stare at yourself while losing focus. you will have something of an 'out-of-body' experience. i always get the feeling that i know i'm in my body but that i don't have to be.

i get the feeling that if i wanted to step out, i could (but i have never actually be able to ... just a sensation i get). it's very strange because you're completely awake and conscious -- no wierd 4d time-space grid necessary!

enjoy!

[Unrersvar]

i have tried mirror gazing before and got the same result as the op.
dark morphing faces etc.

i didnt try it for very long because it wasnt a pleasant experience

[SteantyjetMaw]

normally i'm pretty good at doing research on the web, but i'm at a loss as to what to look for on this subject that you described. do you have any links or recommendations on keywords to google for this?
john

john,
you got my curiosity going, so i tried some searches to see if i could come up with anything more on the subject. most of my search results were related to far more advanced studies on the visual system, so advanced that they seemed to assume the reader knew the basics of visual adaptation.

the one exception i found was on wikipedia. it has a nice thumbnail description of the mechanism i was talking about:

"in the absence of fixational eye movements, visual perception may fade out or disappear due to neural adaptation [1]. (see adaptation (eye).)"

that's from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/neural_adaptation

there is a nice short article that gives an overview to acquaint you with the topic. hope that will at least offer you a starting point for further reading on the subject.

cheers.
paul

[Zhgrlpil]

cool post! this is fun!!

i always called this other life gazing. i was at a small workshop and we all did it to each other... stared at each other till we saw the other faces in the other person.... very and sooo cool! we saw all kinds of faces: some human, some of different races... lots of aliens. we were calling it other or concurrent lives or aspects of self.

it was a lot later that i realized you could do this with yourself by staring in a mirror... i didn't like that so much....yeah i agree it is freaky... for me, it is weird to see other faces where "mine" should be.

so i believe it is a very fun thing that people can do in friendship with each other (it might be easier to start with others then move to oneself, but i do not know that). just relax and gaze and let the focus fade.

peace and love

darlyne

[hopertveyk]

john,
you got my curiosity going, so i tried some searches to see if i could come up with anything more on the subject. most of my search results were related to far more advanced studies on the visual system, so advanced that they seemed to assume the reader knew the basics of visual adaptation.

the one exception i found was on wikipedia. it has a nice thumbnail description of the mechanism i was talking about:

"in the absence of fixational eye movements, visual perception may fade out or disappear due to neural adaptation [1]. (see adaptation (eye).)"

that's from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/neural_adaptation

there is a nice short article that gives an overview to acquaint you with the topic. hope that will at least offer you a starting point for further reading on the subject.

cheers.
paul

thanks deerclan,

i checked out the link. at the bottom of the wikipedia writeup there's a link to a multi-page pdf which goes into detail on the subject.

i appreciate you doing some digging and posting the link!

peace,
john

[furious1]

isn't mirror gazing just a meditation technique to see your shadow self. this way you see the other parts of you that you may be leaving in the dark. once you recognize them and see them, you can bring them to the surface and deal with them.

couldn't this be used as a healing method? seeing in the other dimensions of your own psychy...

*rubs chin*

this may be frightening but really... i think it would be very beneficial for spiritual growth, that is if you don't get freaked out. just send light and love to the aspects of your shadow you don't like. thus understand the self and giving way to uderstanding other selves...

[reiruviartugs]

john,

i have been mirror gazing for a few months now. i see a lot of what you depicted in your post, however prior to my reading your post i passed off what i was seeing as a trick of the eye.

i can "see" know that it is very possible imprints /remnants of past lives.

[SteantyjetMaw]

i checked out the link. at the bottom of the wikipedia writeup there's a link to a multi-page pdf which goes into detail on the subject.

i appreciate you doing some digging and posting the link!
john

my pleasure, john. i have gained so much from these forms in the few short weeks i have been here, i consider it an honor any time i can give a little something back.

paul

[duminyricky]

i had read about mirror gazing in a book and was curious to attempt this myself. i had used candle lights and it was night time. now, im not sure if one is supposed to hear sounds also, but i was able to hear a drum beat, as if i was in a tribe or something. as soon as i had refocused my eyes ( they were starting to dry out >.< ) the sound stopped. i havent done that since then, due to my laziness (something i need to overcome). just out of curiousity, has anyone else heard anything, or was it merely pure imagry? just wondering.