[GlarlraTpople]

i have read all the books i could find on edgar cayce starting in the early 80's and have deep regard for the readings, but do not have the same feelings for are even though e.c. founded it. what has it become? i don't know. i wish to find out. i have been a searcher for many decades and take the pros and cons seriouslyl. in other words i am not going to accept what david says as absolute truth. i am not a follower of any belief per se, but am familiar with the bible etc. i have many questions. i have had experiences of religious groups who are really friendly until you question them and then they want you out of there. that is not a valid way for any religious group to think or behave if they are really true to what spiritual and religious beliefs are all about. bottom line; can i ask questions about david wilcox without fear of being ostracised from the form?

[Qeiafib]

dear east sun,

you will, i hope, find us fresh and new... please ask away... free enquiry is the lifeblood of our forum, and is welcomed above all.

[furious1]

i have read all the books i could find on edgar cayce starting in the early 80's and have deep regard for the readings, but do not have the same feelings for are even though e.c. founded it. what has it become? i don't know. i wish to find out. i have been a searcher for many decades and take the pros and cons seriouslyl. in other words i am not going to accept what david says as absolute truth. i am not a follower of any belief per se, but am familiar with the bible etc. i have many questions. i have had experiences of religious groups who are really friendly until you question them and then they want you out of there. that is not a valid way for any religious group to think or behave if they are really true to what spiritual and religious beliefs are all about. bottom line; can i ask questions about david wilcox without fear of being ostracised from the form?

welcome!

there is something that is very understood here and with the law of one material that there is free will. but im sure you will have great responses and most of all an all around friendly atmosphere.

blessing to you!

[EntectCelpelm]

can i ask questions about david wilcox without fear of being ostracised from the form? i think the personal lives of teachers/learners is relatively unimportant. it's the lessons we draw from our experiences that is the mark of true wisdom.

we can get caught up in the cult of personality, in the minutiae of an existence that we lose the message, the theme of a life.

however, if you do want to explore further -

the reincarnation of edgar cayce by wynn free is a good place to start. available at amazon, and is david wilcock's bio up to 2004.

personally, i find it relatively uninteresting.

[Kk21pwa9]

ra: i am ra...
the relationship of such an entity to fourth-density negative entities is one of the more powerful and the less powerful. the negative path posits slavery of the less powerful as a means of learning the desire to serve the self to the extent that the will is brought to bear. it is in this way that polarity is increased in the negative sense. thus fourth-density entities are willing slaves of such a fifth-density entity, there being no doubt whatsoever of the relative power of each.

questioner: a reflection of this could be seen in our density in many of those leaders who instigate war and have followers who support, in total conviction that the direction of conquest is correct. is this correct?

ra: i am ra. any organization which demands obedience without question upon the basis of relative power is functioning according to the above described plan. this is why i believe that most religions are run by what the ra sessions discribe as "negative entities".
if you start asking questions, you might learn the truth and if you learn the truth, they can't control you anymore because you'll be able to think for yourself.
religions are all about controlling your mind, which is why they kicked you out when you started asking questions.

[GlarlraTpople]

i did a reply to this thread but it was rejected---why? it has to be because it is not in alignment with what "they" want you to believe. unreal, i just joined and did about three posts and already i see signs of typical manipulation. not presenting all posts to everyone is the first sign of dishonesty. this will not be allowed to be seen of course. yeah, i was right i believe.......

[GlarlraTpople]

why would "they" not want you to hear what someone is saying or their questions and doubts? not allowing free form interchange is suspect right off the bat. check it out!

[Kk21pwa9]

i did a reply to this thread but it was rejected---why? it has to be because it is not in alignment with what "they" want you to believe. unreal, i just joined and did about three posts and already i see signs of typical manipulation. not presenting all posts to everyone is the first sign of dishonesty. this will not be allowed to be seen of course. yeah, i was right i believe.......

you have to remember, this is their 'house' and they have to regulate some of the content or this place would look like a jungle, like some forums. they have every right to censure content because they pay the bills just like you have every right to make sure people don't walk into your living room with muddy boots because you pay the bills at your home.

also, there's the matter of bandwidth they're saving by not letting everyone post a mile of text per minute. regulating has a tendency to slow that process as i'm sure you can understand.

but i know for a fact that you can ask anyone in here any questions and they'll be happy to give you truthful answers to the best of their abilities.

[sharpyure]

why would "they" not want you to hear what someone is saying or their questions and doubts? not allowing free form interchange is suspect right off the bat. check it out!

hi east sun,

your questions and doubts are most welcomed and appreciated. just ask away. in case you are not aware this is a moderated forum and no not all posts are approved, they are subject to forum rules which we encourage everyone to read. these rules are set in place by david as a means to preserve the positive direction members of this forum have come to enjoy and embrace. most mods are members that volunteer to maintain this uplifting spiritual focus, as marie suggests, with a little courtesy there's no reason why any question would be rejected.

is there anything specific that you would like to inquire or share about david's work, the law of one or any other topic discussed on these forums? i'm sure members would be more than pleased to engage in conversation.........sylvain..............

[leijggigf]

hello to all,

sun, i understand where you are coming from and i bet you wont find one person here that has not had a posts turned down.

did the mod not give you a reason for the rejection of your posts? they usually give a reason, even if you dont understand the reason, they still should give one.

i would advise that if you have a specifit response that your not understanding why it was not allowed, message the mods and ask them to explain this to you.

this is a place that they try to keep the posts under certain guidelines. i also find that re wording or re stating something in a way that it will pertain to dw research or the law of one research will help get a thought through to the forum members.

if you read through the forum, there are a lot of personal private experiences shared here, that alone makes this a special place. i know its frustrating sometimes, but let me please tell you, we have all experiences this frustration....but we can all also work through it and still grow under the guidelines given.

i can say im not guilty of cursing the mods, but i was able to not let the little things keep me from seeing the light that shone through here. i think if you begin to read and get to know the group here, there is a light here you will not be able to find anywhere else.

humble opinions only,
love lynette

[GlarlraTpople]

thanks much for your kind replies, everyone. my intention is never to offend anyone intentionally.
still, i reserve the right to speak my mind. perhaps i should have waited a while to get a "feel" for the environment on this forum.
because i study edgar cayce and have looked for people who would discuss his life and revelations i just find this forum to be like another planet. i realize that things have changed dramatically from his time to now and will change faster as time goes by.
so, i'll give it time and see what i find or realize or don't.
all of this is extremely interesting but you can't blame anyone for being skeptical.
peace and good will---good free will...

[Arrocousa]

hey there east sun,

welcome. i don't post here very often but i lurk quite a bit. i just wanted to give you my outlook on this forum as it pertains to your interest in edgar cayce. you first have to realize that this forum is not geared, per se, towards discussing the work of ec. this is somewhat of a predicament since it is well known in this forum that david's source (his higher self) informed him that he was, in fact, edgar cayce in a past life. and while david has done similar work to ec in the past (in the form of personal readings) it is no longer his main focus (and that's a good thing because the work he has done in this lifetime is incredible.... it ought to be required reading for every new student of physics, imo).

i think if you actually read the law of one, you will find that there are many, many similarities between its message and the information that came through cayce with regards to soul development, although it may not be immediately apparent.

i, too, have studied cayce for years (roughly 30 years now) and when i first read the law of one it upset my apple cart quite a bit. it took me a while to come to the conclusion that the information does not negate cayce's readings, but instead fills in a lot of the missing gaps.. information that, had it been given, may have been a little too much information for society at the time and most certainly too much for edgar himself, given his fundamentalist christian upbringing. for example, i don't think it would have gone over well with edgar to find out that roughly half of the souls on this planet originally began their 3rd density physical existence on mars or that the modern human body was more or less "engineered" by what we would call extra-terrestrials (and yet, there is a very subtle reference to this in "there is a river", if you read between the lines. ec simply referred to them as "higher forces".

my advice would be to read the law of one, read the copious amount of free material on this site (look in the blog section) and ask questions within that framework. i'm sure you will be allowed to ask for clarification between the readings of ec and how they correlate to the information in the loo if you keep it in that context. you might also want to read "secrets of the ufo" found on llreaserch.org, which is a precursor to the work done much later with don and carla in connection with ra. i found that to be a good bridge between edgar cayce and the law of one.

i think you'll find that the lingo in the loo is very different but the message is the same.

i'm sure you are familiar with the following (to paraphrase):

when cayce was asked what one should study when first starting on the spiritual path, his answer was..."to spend at least six months contemplating the oneness of all things". ... and his other favorite phrase.. "hear o israel, the lord thy god is one".

peace,

michael

[scewLacysmazy]

east sun,

it will serve you well to be skeptical about information you may come across, but only if you use your skepticism to learn more about what you are questioning. i myself am a cautious person and i look to everything with a certain amount of skepticism. i look for basic fundamental truths that have withstood the test of time and can withstand continued scrutiny.

you can understand the creator; by studying his creation.

be well in your search for knowledge.

[ThisIsOK]

i have read all the books i could find on edgar cayce starting in the early 80's and have deep regard for the readings, but do not have the same feelings for are even though e.c. founded it. what has it become? i don't know. i wish to find out.

east sun,
i can't speak for anyone else, but i welcome your skepticism. without skepticism, a person will follow any pied piper who plays a pleasant tune - and there are many of those. sometimes i think about doing it myself - just send me the small sum of $5 thousand, folks, and i promise you instant enlightenment. (you'll become "enlightened" about trusting crooks like me, i.e.) c'mon! who needs that? that's one big thing that attracted me to ec in the beginning, and it also attracts me to dw. it's also an attractive feature of the church i attend, that doctrine is a matter of individual pursuit and study. sorry, i ain't swallowin' anybody else's doctrine whole like a catfish swallowing a big gob of worms with a hook in it. i appreciate your skepticism. i don't know squat about our moderators here, but i can say as an experienced moderator myself that it's a matter of a human being's best intentions, a judgment call, as to what posts to reject. i've let posts through that have started mini-wars on forums, and i've rejected some that were benign. nobody's perfect in 3d.

as far as a.r.e., it is a known principle of sociology that organizations start out serving a cause, but over a period of time those organizations slowly morph to serve their own existence. i can't think of a reason why a.r.e. should be any different - and in fact simple logic suggests that at some point divine cosmos will have to work against letting that same tendency take over. engineers have to work constantly against the law of gravity, and organizations have to work against the law about becoming self-serving. it's not a criticism of anyone, just a fact of sociology. of course it's disappointing, but then, reality often is.

bottom line; can i ask questions about david wilcox without fear of being ostracised from the form?

try it and see. my own rule as a moderator is that any question is allowed, provided it is fair, reasonable, and respectful to everyone involved. again, i emphasize, i cannot speak for divine cosmos mods, because they may have a whole different set of guidelines for moderating. if i were david, you better believe i'd have set down some strict forum guidelines. after all, let's be fair to david - it is his personal and professional reputation that is on the line, if somebody decided to try to create nasty feelings & uproar on his lists. there are enough critics without a cause, going around looking for targets as it is. i daresay david does *not* people going around pointing the finger & saying "hmph! lookit that guy! he talks peace, but he can't even keep harmony on his own listserv!"

we all owe him that much as we pursue our own creativity & growth here. what he has contributed for all of us, and what he has sacrificed to make it all happen, deserves our utmost respect. imo.

thanks for a good question.

[GlarlraTpople]

very welcome words of wisdom from all of you. we're on the same page i think. you have given balance to my original perception of the forum.
i hope to be here from time to time as i catch up on your recommended reading.
much thanks!!!!!!