[evarekataVame]

hey all, i was listening to david's myth and logic yesterday and remember him saying e=mc(2) was wrong. coicidentally i woke up in the middle of the night and found this article about e=mc(2)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120...n_081120235605

[viagradiscounttt]

it seems to me that this equation describes a relationship between some of the manifestations of energy in the observable universe, ie: matter and electromagnetic energy. (matter is a standing wave manifestation of energy, and nuclear fission is the 'unravelling of the wave, allowing energy to be released, like a knitted sweater can be unravelled to return to a long string)

what is missing from this calculation is the understanding of the 'ether', which is a static field of primal consciousness which contains limitless potential energy, and is the medium through which all vibratory phenomenon propagate. conventional science predicates its equations on the notion of there being no ether, and attempts to describe a universe in which energetic waves need no medium to travel. (empty space)

the ether, or consciousness field, is in fact a very dense ocean of intelligent energy - and dw describes it in this radio interview as a fishtank full of water, wherein the fish swimming are unaware of the water, as the water is ubiquitous, or totally and evenly present - and the absense of the water is something they don't experience. i would add that although there is a high density of water and pressure acting upon the fish, they are built to produce a countering outward pressure which cancels out the water pressure. they have virtually no way of directly experiencing the reality of the water. to them, it appears as a zero field of nothing.

everything in the universe - matter, energy, space and time - are in reality geometric wave formations upon the otherwise still 'water' of the consciousness field. the creative principle causes a 'movement' upon the 'water', thus creating waves, which manifest as all observable phenomena.

i believe that dw is referring to this extra and necessary fact of the consciousness field, which conventional science doesn't factor into the equation. therefore, the equation is only useful insofar as describing relationships between energetic or vibratory manifestations, without addressing their common source. mark

[Beragagnu]

here is something funny as well. i was listening to a foxtel doco, when the ads came through, and sorry i dont have a link or anything as yet, but "they" (i know we hate that term) were stating that they have confirmed that he was correct, and were going to present it on foxtel. i will have to watch to see what they come up with!

[DrazAdwamoi]

ha, ha!

that means we could be likened to a bunch of fish, arguing about whether or not there is such a thing as water.

[Beragagnu]

ha, ha!

that means we could be likened to a bunch of fish, arguing about whether or not there is such a thing as water.

:d but is there water, remember this world is one of illusion

[ssyyyrruho]

i do not see the super computers' findings contradictory to dw's words.
in contrary, it provides supporting evidence:

"the odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?"

this super calculation just shows us that matter is nothing more than a form of energy -- in a sense, stored energy temporarily molded to construct the physical objects around us.
quantum theorists no longer consider energy to be particlelike in nature. subatomic particles are no longer viewed as static things but as four-dimensional entities in space-time.
next step -- consciousness is the underliing fabric of our universe. they are getting there.