[texprofi]

dear friends,

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/noe08/noe08_index.html

be well, be love.

david

the problem of consciousness

[alva noë:] the central thing that i think about is our nature, our human-animal nature, our being in this world. what is a person? what is a human being? what is consciousness? there is a tremendous amount of enthusiasm at the moment about these questions.

they are usually framed as questions about the brain, about how the brain makes consciousness happen, how the brain constitutes who we are, what we are, what we want—our behavior. the thing i find so striking is that, at the present time, we actually can't give any satisfactory explanations about the nature of human experience in terms of the functioning of the brain.

what explains this is really quite simple. you are not your brain. you have a brain, yes. but you are a living being that is connected to an environment; you are embodied, and dynamically interacting with the world. we can't explain consciousness in terms of the brain alone because consciousness doesn't happen in the brain alone.

in many ways, the new thinking about consciousness and the brain is really just the old-fashioned style of traditional philosophical thinking about these questions but presented in a new, neuroscience package. people interested in consciousness have tended to make certain assumptions, take certain things for granted. they take for granted that thinking, feeling, wanting, consciousness in general, is something that happens inside of us. they take for granted that the world, and the rest of our body, matters for consciousness only as a source of causal impingement on what is happening inside of us. action has no more intimate connection to thought, feeling, consciousness, and experience. they tend to assume that we are fundamentally intellectual—that the thing inside of us which thinks and feels and decides is, in its basic nature, a problem solver, a calculator, a something whose nature is to figure out what there is and what we ought to do in light of what is coming in.

[antiggill]

hi all.

wow, david ! the link is a loooong read. . . b-)

but before i read, i want to say this:

don't we all see/realise that we all act on those parameters?:
if desire/problem/anything/etc... then action/actions. . .
we could even add:
if___ then____ else ____.

if hungry then we eat.
if time to go work, then get in car/buss/bike. . .
if in car then use key to star car. . .
wont start??? else open hood and try to find why. . .etc. . .

if then else. . .

it's a little like how we sense the world/reality:
prehension, judgement, reasoning.

we:
hear, smell, touch, taste, see;
judge, how nice or not, usefull or not, etc or not...;
reason, what we do with the judged feeling...actions...

our consciousness works with:
if then else. . .
. . .even our feelings?
if sad then tear. if funny then laugh.
if lovable then loved. . .
if not-so-lovable but have read "law of one" and the like,
then love anyway. . .

? right ?

if serve-to-self then_______
if serve-to-others then________

blue skies.