[casefexas]

hey all -

i've read in various places about dna mutating to 12 strands (compared to 2). this concept is rather vague in my memory, which ultimately means that the source material was rather poor.

anyone have info on this?

thanks!!!

[RemiVedia]

here is a good article from russian scientists that i found.

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/evolut...e-genetics.htm

enjoy donald

[Terinalo]

here's another link to an article about 12 strand dna:

http://www.luisprada.com/protected/r...iscoveries.htm

enjoy!

[Podborodok]

i feel i have to chime in a bit on this subject due to some "skeptical" feelings i've had about it.

first let me make very clear that i'm referring only to the idea of many-strand (12) dna in this case.

it seems to me that it has become a bit on an internet phenomenon associated with the new age culture. that is, people were obsessed with "healing" and with "ascending" to some degree and then scientists popularized dna as being responsible for our structure... so these people then immediately caught on and said "well then dna must be able to be changed and there must be some higher form" ... and despite the links presented here (which never mention many-strand dna, and otherwise seem credible) i see alot of this stuff as being much like i described.

clearly dna can be changed, and we understand as little about it as we do of other physical sciences because we're barking up the wrong tree for the most part. but really... why do you never hear stuff about the possibility of many-stranded dna etc from anyone who is in a position to know? like... someone trained in genetics? or at least a credible experimental researcher?

this is certainly not meant to be an attack (and the mods can delete it if they think it comes off as one) but i really would like to know if there is credible non-internet-spiritual-hysteria-induced data about dna in any form other than two-strand.

[jobsfancy]

hey, mr. cox-

there is a wonderful book that came out in 2004- got the 23rd signed printing of the first 1000, by dr. len horowitz titled "dna: pirates of the sacred spiral." i would have called it something like "more than you could ever think to ask about dna." i showed it to david at the time, and i remember that he gave it one of his familar nods and a smile; many other fun-facts about how tptb like to fiddle-around with things.

pm for links & such if you wish.

bob riedel

[PhillipHer]

being a mystical type person when all the hoopla around the 12 strand dna began with healers like vianna stibal and others, i was comforted. because i had "seeing" the very things they described in their various books, and such. i called it "the lost chord" - even did a painting of it on the pages of my earlier book celestial vision.

when caroline myss came out and said she was a medical intuitive who could see inside bodies again, i was comforted. because i had been able to do this since childhood. so after studying and asking why and what good does it do for me or the people around me. my answers from the highest came in the form of angel paintings (a great shock to me as i had developed my skills to not personify the divine energies or other vibrations - low level vibrations can manifest into frighteningly real monsters - so as a child i made them just dark lights or colors to be able to cope - which could then be transformed by light lights and sent away.)

i've posted some of my paintings in my album here in the forum. come by and visit them.. http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/album.php?albumid=28
one of my youtube movies is about the cosmic vibrations that are shifting humanity's overall dna and are always arriving here that change our physical beings.

i suppose the biggest thing that happened when i started asking about dna -my own to be specific - was that i had a forty day (i know so cliche`) experience when i began asking questions and they were answered by my inner teacher.

so is it real? the 12 strand dna? well, does it really matter? we are all ascending together as a solar system. it is all about being there for each other. sharing what we know and caring enough to honor ourselves with inner service and healing, too. which for me meant writing a book to explain it to myself.

one of my early angel paintings i called the angel of the spiral..but after finding dw's work about torsion fields..it made sense in a scientific format and now i call her the torsion field angel. i painted her on parchment paper with gold tee shirt paint and it was like taking notes in a class. such intense gentleness..felt like a great download of information into my personal library.

well, just wanted to share a little bit about my experiences with dna awareness.

the forum has gotten so huge! i haven't posted much here, but have tried to keep up with what's new.

harmony and love,

gwen

[Stetbrate]

well, i think the thought is surely intriguing, yet im not sure how i feel about the physicality of it all. however, i do know that it comes down to this anyway:

why attatch ourselves to the physical manifestation of ascension?

we need not get caught up in the physical manifestation of anything. think about love for example. do we need to take notes on what love does to your/someone else's body? is it even possible? would it really even matter compared to what it feels like? i think not. you cannot see love and i bet if you did, you probably wouldnt be able to comprehend or explain it. maybe the ascension will come in the form of crazy-awesome-super-strandy dna. even if that does happen, im sure at that time, you wont give a hoot about your dna. you will have much more on your mind than that. if we cant see past the illusion, then what can we see?

i think ascension is the same exact way. why focus on what the illusion creates for you to percieve? lets focus on what its going to feel like and how it will change our spirits as opposed to what it will "look" like or what form it physically manifest through.

love and light cannot be given a physical label. it just is. and im ok with that.

l & l to all!

[PhillipHer]

do we need to take notes on what love does to your/someone else's body? is it even possible? would it really even matter compared to what it feels like?


hi kassandra, nice to meet you..

well, i guess you don't need to take notes. but this was 20 years ago and no one was talking about the things i was seeing, experiencing and feeling. now you have this forum. so perhaps, its ancient history to you. but at the time it was really interesting to me and i wanted to document the event..so i could share with others about it.

you could think of the angel paintings i've done as frequency statements and totally unimportant if you like. just notes i took while healing and working with others. i just love them all. and and found that lots of other people do also.

the dna stuff showed up and i resonate with understanding more. i think fosar and bludorf called dna the inner-net by which we are all connected way back when they first published it. i think their info is still in german tho.

i found a couple of links.. one on hypercommunication and the ufo phenomenon..

http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/ufo-art...n/virt_eng.htm

another that has a link to gariaev & poponin..

from another forum: 15 years ago some russian molecular biologists (drs. gariaev & poponin) discovered this dna phantom effect. if you beam laser light through dna a wave pattern appears on the screen behind. if you then remove the dna from the experiment the wave pattern remains on the screen as if the dna is still there.

also they found you can interact with the dna using voice modulated laser light. they were actually able to change the information patterns in the dna with laser light and were able to convert a frog embryo into a salamander embryo.

some german writers (fosar & bludorf) have written a book about this entitled [please pm for title]. they argue that there is a networked intelligence at the dna level that enables hypercommunication of information amongst all sentient beings. we are all interconnected in the dna, and this accounts for a whole host of paranormal phenomena.

excerpts of fosar & bludorf's book have been translated into english on the website the spiritual genome
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/

so others are taking waay better notes than me.

blessings,

gwen

[Salliter]

the extra 12 strands of dna have been reported to be etheric strands located in the subtle bodies. the structure of the material dna is supposed to restructure geometricly into the shape of a six pointed star. so there is not supposed to be additional code, just an unlocking of dormant code because of the geometric enhancement.

so we have two dna phenomena happening simultainiously.

[Stetbrate]

do we need to take notes on what love does to your/someone else's body? is it even possible? would it really even matter compared to what it feels like?


hi kassandra, nice to meet you..

well, i guess you don't need to take notes. but this was 20 years ago and no one was talking about the things i was seeing, experiencing and feeling. now you have this forum. so perhaps, its ancient history to you. but at the time it was really interesting to me and i wanted to document the event..so i could share with others about it.

you could think of the angel paintings i've done as frequency statements and totally unimportant if you like. just notes i took while healing and working with others. i just love them all. and and found that lots of other people do also.

the dna stuff showed up and i resonate with understanding more. i think fosar and bludorf called dna the inner-net by which we are all connected way back when they first published it. i think their info is still in german tho.

i found a couple of links.. one on hypercommunication and the ufo phenomenon..

http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/ufo-art...n/virt_eng.htm

another that has a link to gariaev & poponin..

from another forum: 15 years ago some russian molecular biologists (drs. gariaev & poponin) discovered this dna phantom effect. if you beam laser light through dna a wave pattern appears on the screen behind. if you then remove the dna from the experiment the wave pattern remains on the screen as if the dna is still there.

also they found you can interact with the dna using voice modulated laser light. they were actually able to change the information patterns in the dna with laser light and were able to convert a frog embryo into a salamander embryo.

some german writers (fosar & bludorf) have written a book about this entitled [please pm for title]. they argue that there is a networked intelligence at the dna level that enables hypercommunication of information amongst all sentient beings. we are all interconnected in the dna, and this accounts for a whole host of paranormal phenomena.

excerpts of fosar & bludorf's book have been translated into english on the website the spiritual genome
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/

so others are taking waay better notes than me.

blessings,

gwen

hi gwen!

i just wanted you to know that i was commenting on the entire thread itself, about being focused on what will happen to our strands physically. my post just happened to get mod'ed and posted right underneath yours. the comment wasnt directed at you in any way.

in fact, i agree with the majority of what you were saying.

my main point for the thread as a whole was that, even if we do happen to get super dna at the time of ascension, are we really going to stop and say, "wow, dude. check out my dna. its all groovy now!" i was using the love example of trying to track physical manifestations of something that is usually only felt to gain full understanding.

i find the concept quite intruiging, i just dont know how i feel about it. and it seems to me as though it is something that ra would called "transient data."

love and light! whether your dna is 2 stranded or 102 stranded! :d

[PhillipHer]

so metaman,

would that be a dimensionalized six pointed star - a star tetrahedron, i.e the merkabah? it's my sense that this happens with the frequency shifting that is ongoing and by being a witness to the process you anchor it in your being and become a co-creator.

gwen