[gIWnXYkw]

i don't mean the soul swapping bodies (i don't believe in that type of "reincarnation"), but swapping higher selves or something to that effect. to do that though, i figure one's actual soul would be have to "die" and be reborn.

lol i dunno, just something random that came to mind...:d

[Efonukmp]

i don't mean the soul swapping bodies (i don't believe in that type of "reincarnation"), but swapping higher selves or something to that effect. to do that though, i figure one's actual soul would be have to "die" and be reborn.

lol i dunno, just something random that came to mind...:d

hi, rocky

i don't quite get the point of what you are after here...what is the big problem/handicap with "dying" that you seem to be hung up on? the supremely important aspect of an entity is its astral, etheric "body" and most certainly not the transitory "meat suit" needed here for a 3-d incarnation.

there is one example that comes to mind that avoids the "starting over" mode and that is via a spiritual operation called a "walk-in". from ll research it seems that the entity we know historically as lincoln despaired of carrying out its purpose in 3-d; an arrangement was made whereupon another entity volunteered to step into the body to finish the task. this is not a case of a soul swapping bodies but rather -- in an admittedly limited apparent sense --we have here a bod swapping souls

i'm not sure whether or not llresearch.org has its archives operational once again, but if so you can do a search for lincoln and check the important details of this rather rare example.

"dying is not what it is cracked up to be" extreme living is forever... bbbb

ps a keen observation from from a notable one of yore:

"‘nastradine hodja, when will the world end?’ his disciples asked him one day. ‘but that’s very simple; let’s see now,’ he replied. ‘it will end when i die.’ and, in a way, he was right;when someone dies, the whole world disappears with them, and when they are alive the world is also alive. there’s something to think about! yes, it depends on you, on your state of consciousness, as to whether the world is alive or dead, spiritual or material, subtle or gross, beautiful or ugly.you will say, ‘but we’ve known that for ages!’ well then, if you know it, why don’t you manage to make it a reality? you know everything, yet you do nothing. do something; resolve to change your inner glasses, so that the world and the people in it become truly alive for you. " omraam mikhaël aïvanhov

[Goalseexere]

i must admit, after reading numerous accounts of nde's always with the same description of boundless love, no barriers/ego, freedom and peace (so much that people are horrified when they actually wake up in there bodies) i cant wait to experience dying and 'remember' all over again.

[MightyMasd]

this is interesting, because i was just yesterday listening to a mellen-thomas benedict interview. (deepak chopra once called him an "... an encyclopedia of the afterlife.") apparently, after suffering from a terminal illness, his body was dead for over an hour and a half!

don't know if this is the type of experience you were asking about, but i found it quite fascinating, because his views on many thing were considerably changed when he came back, and he never lost contact with the other side and an intelligence he simply calls "the light"

here's a snip from the c2c show he was on mellen-thomas benedict shared details of his incredible near death experience (nde) that took place in 1982, while he was in hospice care for a terminal illness. he was without vital signs for at least an hour and a half before he returned to his body.

# here are some of highlights of what he learned while on the "other side:" the other side is not all it's cracked up to be-- being in a human body is actually a more optimal way to experience the universe.
# black holes at the center of galaxies function as great processors of universal matter-- a total recycling machine.
# no evil exists in the human soul, and a person is purified of any evil or darkness before they are reincarnated.
# reincarnation occurs automatically, driven by the body which is more powerful and millions of years older than the mind.
# the other side is totally individualized and each person experiences it uniquely.
# earth has expended 90% of its life force, the sun is getting old, and we're beginning to lose the moon. also the liquid metal core of the earth is cooling and water will evaporate within the next 2,000 years.
# it's humanity's manifest destiny to leave earth and colonize other planets. within the next 400 years such "star seeding" will begin.

[gIWnXYkw]

hi, rocky

there is one example that comes to mind that avoids the "starting over" mode and that is via a spiritual operation called a "walk-in". from ll research it seems that the entity we know historically as lincoln despaired of carrying out its purpose in 3-d; an arrangement was made whereupon another entity volunteered to step into the body to finish the task. this is not a case of a soul swapping bodies but rather -- in an admittedly limited apparent sense --we have here a bod swapping souls
omraam mikhaël aïvanhov

lol that's exactly what i was thinking

ps a keen observation from from a notable one of yore:

"‘nastradine hodja, when will the world end?’ his disciples asked him one day. ‘but that’s very simple; let’s see now,’ he replied. ‘it will end when i die.’ and, in a way, he was right;when someone dies, the whole world disappears with them, and when they are alive the world is also alive. there’s something to think about! yes, it depends on you, on your state of consciousness, as to whether the world is alive or dead, spiritual or material, subtle or gross, beautiful or ugly.you will say, ‘but we’ve known that for ages!’ well then, if you know it, why don’t you manage to make it a reality? you know everything, yet you do nothing. do something; resolve to change your inner glasses, so that the world and the people in it become truly alive for you. "
omraam mikhaël aïvanhov

lol young children seem to think like that sometimes. if you were to cover a child's face with a blanket, they tend to think "who turned out the light" believe if they can't see, no one else can either. i've also seen a case where a new kid in a group is told to introduce herself and thought that everyone knew her name just because people (like her parents) call her by that name.

so yeah, it's like we know everything but its only because we have sources or references in order to know anything, so in reality, we don't know anything. we aren't the original source of all knowledge, we only carry pieces of it around. :d

[DevaRextusidis]

i did write some stuff about this, lost my train of thought, then gave up. quite honestly i couldn't give a **** about anything at the moment, i'm going to hibernate until it's all over.

by the way, billybobbutterball, that's a great 'monica, are you related to that spongebob squarepants chappy?

bbb replies: i used to change bobby's diapers when he was little... i refused to do so after he graduated high school... family doesn't talk much about spongy any more. to tell the truth us'n butterball's think of him as nothing more than just one big bag of endless drips.

[pIp83Uns]

we aren't the original source of all knowledge, we only carry pieces of it around. :d

well, err i think david wilcock and larry seyer made it clear that we actually are all that only we choose to think that we aren't!!!!

[gIWnXYkw]

well, err i think david wilcock and larry seyer made it clear that we actually are all that only we choose to think that we aren't!!!!

technically, being all powerful, all knowing, and being present everywhere is possible, but that is all limited by our own wills. all power is at our reach, but like any muscle, it requires exercise. all knowledge of any space or time is available as a recorded memory, we just have to recall it to our minds to "remember". being present everywhere but one would have to be willing to be one with all there is. it's very natural to for an individual to see our great abilities as a great burden of responsibility, that's why sometimes we have to detach ourselves from our own power and knowledge and give it all to projections of other selves. we can't really know ourselves until we forget ourselves and get to know others.

i also mentioned a little about egocentrism, which is a child's inability to see the point of view of somone else. i suppose children are born thinking everything revolves around them and forget they revolve around everything else with everyone else.