[papadopul]

hi all. . i am new to this forum, but have been an avid ponderer of david's work for quite some time. today i sent him an email with a question which i think might be on the minds of many. i don't expect a personal answer, but i thought it might make for an instructive blog post in the future.

i also would like to put it out there to everybody on this forum, as i'm sure it is a question that is not unique to me, and perhaps somebody else has already found the answer. cc of the email below:

ever since i was very young, i have been making attempts at having contact with higher consciousness. it has taken various forms over the years, but the goal was always the same: to have a direct, physical, experience of a being of higher consciousness, or even my own higher consciousness.

according to my reasoning, and understanding of "how things work", this should not really be a difficult thing to do, so long as my belief system allows for it, and it does not interfere with free will. yet for all of my attempts, which range from simple asking or requesting, to intense prayer, to outright demanding, to simply attempting to realize that higher consciousness is already here in the present moment, i have never once been successful. to be sure, i know that i have had many moments of connection with higher consciousness via my dreams, intuitions, and things of that sort, but i always think to myself: why can't i just have a one-on-one conversation with one of these beings? certainly other people claim to have had these kinds of experiences, why not me??

i have spent countless hours trying to rationalize why this happens, or rather doesn't happen. all that i am left with is that there must be, at some level, a willful denial on the part of hc beings, and/or my own higher self, to fulfill this desire. it is a true desire, very deep-seated, and with pure intention, that has been with me as far back as i can remember. all i am left with is that there must be some very good reason why this desire has not been fulfilled, and the only very good reason i can come up with is that it would somehow violate the first distortion of the law of one. . although i don't really see why this would be the case. according to my reasoning and understanding, this should be a fairly simple request, that can be fulfilled in such a way as to not interfere with the free will of others who do not "believe" in such things. any explanations out there??

[Andoror]

well i think a physical experience with an angelic being is very rare, if you mean for them to appear in the room with you you need highly developed psychic senses and a good reason for them to appear to you. as far as i know, communicating with your higher self or higher beings is done in visions or dreams... i would work on meditating.. just keep at it night after night.. the rule of thumb is monkey minds are not welcome in the higher planes.. a chattering mind cannot properly recieve any kind of higher communication. ill send you some more information in a pm.

[LarryG1978]

hi tenet nosce!
contacting or communicating with higher beings is almost like time travel, meaning you sort of fast forward to a time when you're confident and secure enough to introduce yourself to yourself. there is always a feeling that someone or something is guarding you through this process protecting you from your own distorted mind. after realising the vulnerability of the connection you soon realise what you need to do to strenghthen it, you sort of wipe your own memory and return with a renewed faith. you might not remember every detail at first, understandably, in order to preserve free will. you might actualy regret breaking through, feeling guilty for having forced your way in prematurely. so you see it is quite possible that you have already made first contact and have then wiped your own memory in order to crystalize your energy rays honorably by way of your 3rd density self .......sylvain.........

[fount_pirat]

dear tenet nosce,
looking at your situation, including your background (soul background) i understand, your soul/higher self has it's own time table it will adhere to when it comes to work closer with you.
and you will not miss it, i can asure you this.
originally i wanted to suggest to connect to your guides first, as i did some years ago, and everything else will continue as planed.
but at the moment i can make out only one guide, and there will come a time where he will be replaced by at least three guides.
this is usually the time when everything unfolds.
they have their ways to bring everything about.
you could ask your guide to come in, so you can feel his or her energy. if they will make a connection, you will not miss it. it will be distinct.
it is alway well to remember, the higher self/soul has it's own time plan, and reasons.
and after all, we are the soul.

regards detlef

[papadopul]

thank you all for the input. . and i'd still welcome more!

detlef - i would like to respond to your reply directly, as your comment was very interesting to me. i'm curious to know how you intuited this, and if there is any more information you can provide about this guide and the three to come.

let me give you some more background. some years ago (i think it was '03-ish) i had gotten to the point where i was very much in connection with my guides and it reached a level where i felt it was actually hindering my growth process.

at the time i was indiscrimantly "checking in" with my guides for just about everything, and i was becoming increasingly frustrated when following the guidance would lead me down a blind alley, or in some cases, to some extremely disheartening experiences.

at the time i already had the understanding that growth can come of suffering, but i was also becoming increasingly aware that it need not be that way. i started to get outright suspicious when i was repeatedly guided to stay in a relationship that was clearly not in my best interests. in this relationship certain patterns of negative events would get repetitively triggered, and it was way past the point where any more soul growth could be gleaned from the experiences. it was pretty much subjecting myself to needless suffering out of a false belief that i needed to become more "compassionate" and "understanding" toward this other individual.

i won't get into all of the aspects of this experience because there are many. the bottom line is that it got to the point where one night i called in all of my guides and basically fired them. my reasoning was that i couldn't really trust that all of these guides were really acting in my best interest, or could even comprehend what my best interest really was.

i had become of the mind that my guides, or at least the vast majority of them, were of a lower level of spiritual evolution than myself. i also suspected that there were some negative entities cleverly disguised as spiritual guides in the mix as well. quite frankly, i figured that i could guide myself much better than they by simply listening to my own internal guidance system. having all of the additional chatter out of the way just made it easier for me to listen inside.

indeed, since that time, i have found my life to be much more pleasant to live, and myself much less vulnerable to negative greeting and its attendant difficulties.

so, anyhow, i am curious about this guide who is still lingering about. i will attempt communication on my own, and if there is anything else you can intuit, i would be grateful for this information.

just to be clear, i generally consider "spiritual guides" to be of 4th or maybe 5th density consciousness. when i was speaking of a higher consciousness entity and/or my higher self earlier, i was referring to an entity of 6th density consciousness, or higher.

[papadopul]

sylvanus-

very interesting thoughts as well. in fact, my very first "experiment" was set up kind of like that. i was about 8 years old and already very fascinated with time travel. i was convinced that at some point in the future i would be able to time travel, and so i made a plan to meet myself the next day. what i did was write down on a piece of paper the date, time, and location for the meeting and told myself that i would hold on to that piece of paper until i achieved time travel capability so that i would remember when and where to meet myself. of course, the next day, when it didn't happen, i figured that i must have lost the paper somewhere along the way. . which in fact i did!

[fount_pirat]

dear tenet nosce,

it is difficult to go into detail without going into a situation where i would do a reading, and readings i don't do.
i'd rather encourage everyone and see them make their own connections. after all, those that are here in service, as yourself, would need to work from their original level, before coming into this life, to be effective in their service.
everyone that comes here to be of service, will set up their lives in a particular way, depending on the service they want to give. only if we experience something can we be effective in this area.

we all would experience interferences by those that seek to gain from it. there are ways to detect attempts, and protect oneself from it to some extent.
i always ask for a particular connection, and additionally ask for protection from anything that is not of unconditional love.
further, i only connect with or through my divine self.
every information that i receive is filtered though this part of myself. it would not interfere with anything or give me information that is inappropriate.
in my view, it is wise to learn to connect with energies that are closer to us, and in service themselves, first, before attemting to connect with higher parts of ourselves.
i am sure, those higher parts of ourseves will not agree to a connection, unless we are ready.
as i said in an other post, i had one connection with my monadic self (6d and a healer working with planets)
it made itself known to me as whan tar. once i gave this name to a friend, and asked her to connect to it. she later cam back and said, she couldn't. she felt, she was not ready for it, the energy was to overwelming. i only mention this, to indicate the difficulties with connecting to a being of this level. it would need to lower it's vibration substantially, to be able to stay with it for some time.

i could get a connection if i asked for it, yet of what i need to do on this planet it would not serve any purpose.
so i don't.


regards detlef

[papadopul]

hi detlef,

no worries, i'm sure it will all be revealed in time. i was just surprised that you mentioned your own surprise at me not having many guides, but only one. clearly, you had to have tuned in at some level to discern this.

anyhow, i am well aware of the various ego traps associated with a premature awakening of abilities that one is not prepared to receive as i myself have participated heavily in these activities in past incarnations, and have witnessed the fallout and paid the attendant penalties. even as such, all actions are part of the divine plan, insofar as i understand it.

that being said, there comes a time in the development of the soul where, much like in adolescence, "father knows best" becomes an increasingly dissatisfying explanation for the limitations that are placed upon oneself, and when one would seek to know the reasons behind the rules and to have a clear picture of what qualities need to be demonstrated before the restrictions are lifted.

i wouldn't expect you to have those answers for me, and even as i write this i am gaining a better perspective on all of this for myself. so perhaps, the universe is not as silent on this matter as i previously thought.

it just seems to me more and more every day that taking action in the world without having a clear awareness of the outcome is a great disservice to me, and to others. that physically moving my body around from place to place is a horrible waste of time. that using words is a mind-numbingly slow and ineffective means of learning and communication. that being conscious of only a single timeline, and only small chunks of it at that, is a ridiculous way to live. that chasing around little green slips of paper in hopes of gaining more freedom to do what i want, when i want, is laughable. and that having to wait around for some sort of cosmic clock to strike 12 so that i can get beyond all of this nonsense is supremely absurd.

anyway, i'm just rambling at this point, in hopes that as my higher self peeks over my shoulder it might consider giving me a brief repose from the standard curriculum sometime between now and when i wake up to go to work in the morning. we shall see! :d

peace,

tenet