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Old 01-08-2008, 07:53 PM   #1
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i consider bob marley a benevolent profit and i think he will certainly ascend. but like the others said, numbing yourself out all the time will certainly prevent you from getting to the heart of the situation.

honestly, i think since you are asking these questions then you have nothing to worry about. you are already on the right track which is all you need. it shows you are a humble person.

just follow your bliss and learn from the reactions to your actions.
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Old 07-30-2008, 02:22 AM   #2
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Default New here, have some questions.
hey, i'm very excited to have found this site and forum and look forward to discussing things with you all!

so i've got some questions regarding ascension, keep in mind i'm not looking for a solid answer, just your thoughts and speculations.

1) video games and competitive sports/games all-together. is competition seen as service-to-self to you guys? i mean if it's friendly competition there should be no problem right?

2) would trying to be more service-to-others oriented be seen as service-to-self? i know it sounds crazy, but what if deep down inside i'm just being nice to others so i can ascend? this particular question worries me because i think i'm genuinely trying to be service-to-others but who knows whats going on in my subconsious mind. (maybe i'm overthinking it)

3) can negative feelings be connected with negative energy? if i get frustrated/angry/scared/jealous will that only hurt my progress towards being service-to-others oriented?

4) drugs, illegal and legal. what are your views on them? would you consider them to be service-to-self? particularly marijuana. i ask this because i think "well something bad had to happen for these drugs to end up in my hands".

i think those are my biggest questions i'm wondering, so any and all thoughts are greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:06 PM   #3
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hi last-apoc and welcome,

i have some thoughts on a couple of the questions you ask:

2) would trying to be more service-to-others oriented be seen as service-to-self? i know it sounds crazy, but what if deep down inside i'm just being nice to others so i can ascend? this particular question worries me because i think i'm genuinely trying to be service-to-others but who knows whats going on in my subconsious mind. (maybe i'm overthinking it)!
yeah, you really can think about this so much that it gets over-thought!
but i think that initially, when you first learn about the law of one and the concept of service to others, it is on your mind a lot as you go through daily life. so it might seem to you that you are trying to be sto because you're so conscious of this new way of living.

it actually gets to be a comfortable pattern of life that you don't have to try so hard to accomplish. so my answer to that question would be no, trying to live in sto is not a way of being sts. if you were actually service-to-self charading as service-to-others, in time, that whole hypocrisy would fall apart.

3) can negative feelings be connected with negative energy? if i get frustrated/angry/scared/jealous will that only hurt my progress towards being service-to-others oriented?
i think that the negative feelings you have listed would be more likely to slow down your own personal spiritual progress/vibration, but would not necessarily change your polarity from +sto to -sts. obviously, this would mean not allowing emotions like anger and jealousy to escalate and over-whelm your reasoning ability to the point of commiting a crime.

these are just some of my thoughts on a couple of your concerns. there is a lot of information on the home page under 'start here' that goes into detail about most of the questions you have.

lots of love and light to you in your new journey,
nancy
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:08 PM   #4
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hey, i'm very excited to have found this site and forum and look forward to discussing things with you all!

so i've got some questions regarding ascension, keep in mind i'm not looking for a solid answer, just your thoughts and speculations.

1) video games and competitive sports/games all-together. is competition seen as service-to-self to you guys? i mean if it's friendly competition there should be no problem right?

2) would trying to be more service-to-others oriented be seen as service-to-self? i know it sounds crazy, but what if deep down inside i'm just being nice to others so i can ascend? this particular question worries me because i think i'm genuinely trying to be service-to-others but who knows whats going on in my subconsious mind. (maybe i'm overthinking it)

3) can negative feelings be connected with negative energy? if i get frustrated/angry/scared/jealous will that only hurt my progress towards being service-to-others oriented?

4) drugs, illegal and legal. what are your views on them? would you consider them to be service-to-self? particularly marijuana. i ask this because i think "well something bad had to happen for these drugs to end up in my hands".

i think those are my biggest questions i'm wondering, so any and all thoughts are greatly appreciated, thanks!
if you really want to see the creator in action and serve? go to an aa or na meeting. no joke. even if you don't have a problem as you can see awakening of other selves (as ra puts it) right in front of your face in real time. in fact the higher forces appear to be hostile in their judgment about drugs. maybe they ought to see, listen provide service to this collective force at work before channeling information since we are supposed to be clean creators. i wonder if the pot smoker and tripper has ever been to one himself? hey i am a magical thinker too....... would that be a drug of sorts?
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:43 PM   #5
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1) video games and competitive sports/games all-together. is competition seen as service-to-self to you guys? i mean if it's friendly competition there should be no problem right? i would say so long as you are not playing the games where you are killing other people there will be no negative side effects. that being said, if there is an addiction to playing these games, that may not be so good. addictions keep you grounded in the material world and prevent you from living in the moment. however if you are playing just to have fun and not to build your ego, keep on playing.

2) would trying to be more service-to-others oriented be seen as service-to-self? i know it sounds crazy, but what if deep down inside i'm just being nice to others so i can ascend? this particular question worries me because i think i'm genuinely trying to be service-to-others but who knows whats going on in my subconsious mind. (maybe i'm overthinking it) the intention and the act are both important, but it is the effect you have on others that should be the focus. if your service to others has a positive impact on them, then i would say it does not matter why your are doing it.

3) can negative feelings be connected with negative energy? if i get frustrated/angry/scared/jealous will that only hurt my progress towards being service-to-others oriented? the key thing to remember with all negative emotions is that they are all routed in fear. if you wish to work through getting to a place where you have a minimal occurance of negative emotions then when they happen try to trace them back to something you may be fearing. once you have targeted the appropriate fear that caused them, rationalize the fear and find reasons for why it is unnessesary. if you catch yourself consistently and make this practice a habbit then you will be well on your way to being free of them.

4) drugs, illegal and legal. what are your views on them? would you consider them to be service-to-self? particularly marijuana. i ask this because i think "well something bad had to happen for these drugs to end up in my hands". if the drugs are being used to distance yourself from your current situaton then they are not good. this is because they will prevent you from working through your issues. i personally have found that marijuana is something that i used to use to escape from a reality that i did not like. with the way that consciousness is currently accelerating you will find that getting clear has a similar effect as the best halucinagenic or psycotropic drug ever did. you will not get the instant gratification that these drugs my bring, but the end result will be extremely rewarding.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:41 AM   #6
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thanks a lot all of you! this has given me a lot of insight about what i've asked, it's helped me feel better about everything in general.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:24 AM   #7
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hi last_apoc, welcome to the forum!
1) yes competition brings out feelings and actions of service to self, anytime we feel above or below anyone this brings thoughts of seperation and encourages our ego, it's like rewarding our dog with a treat for being a "good boy".
2) as long as our free will and the free will of others is nurtured and respected, eventualy we will stop thinking about it and it will happen naturally.
3)everyone's progress towards service to others or "christ consciousness" is unique and on it's own terms. it might involve getting "frustrated/angry/scared/jealous" to some degree and might just accelerate your particular learning process. taking one step back to observe a panoramic view of your shadow self, accepting the offered catalyst and progressing through the growth experience leading you to take two steps forward and on and on untill you've worked through all your past and present karma, that is the game
4)taking drugs to block out offered catalyst is definitely service to self and in all likelihood one of the easiest ways to deny ones own free will,jmho.................................sylvain. .......................................
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:24 PM   #8
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welcome last_apoc

you are in great hands in being here and finding the forum. im pleased you posted this subject as the answers have also helped me..

thank-you
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:36 PM   #9
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people are not going to give up sports and games surely, i mean, sport is what keeps people healthy, fit, challenged and mentally sharp.

drugs are bad period, in my opinion if something does not naturally occur in your body then it don't belong there.

emotions are what drive us, you cannot completely eradicate negative feelings, we would be like half human half robot hybrids
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:37 PM   #10
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regarding the comment: "drugs are bad period, in my opinion if something does not naturally occur in your body then it don't belong there."

drugs are just chemicals, and everything in the physical body is composed of chemicals... the difference between the food we eat every day and a "drug" is merely semantic. what really matters is the way these things affect your awareness... if the net result is positive for you, then other peoples' dogmas have no relevance.

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Old 08-01-2008, 04:28 AM   #11
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what you do is fine as long as it doesn't prevent the free will of others, that seems to be the only 'rule'!
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