[SimSlim]

does anyone here know whether this is factual?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lghz1eidajq

[enteltcheft]

i can't say that it's factual, but it's definitely possible, and even probable. people have been coming up with things like this for the past fifty years or so, and possibly as far back as the beginning of the 20th century: tesla was supposed to have had a car that ran on water.

the only thing that makes this guy different is that oil is at eight million dollars a barrel right now, meaning he is the first one to (a) actually get some media/government attention; and (b) not get bought out or assassinated.

[cheesypeetyz]

of course it's true. devices which generate enough hydrogen-on-demand have been around for quite a while, and can run just about any type of internal combustion engine you can think of- motor-cars, generators, lawn tractors, even airplanes- but- then how could those who exploit the planet in the "name" of oil, make a buck? we all gotta eat, don't cha know...

check this one out:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...ntor+murdered#

this man was ultimately sent off-planet, because he could not be paid-off. his patents are in the public domain, and devices of a similar nature are being constructed all around the globe- just don't try to sell any to the sleeping sheeple; that, would be evolutionary, and "we" can't have any of that...

in 1936, a canadian, mr. charles nelson pogue, perfected a gas-vapor method of carburation, and it was publicly demonstrated by the ford motor co. of canada, in january, of that year, and got results of about 26 miles-to-the-pint, using a flat-head v8 engine. when it hit the media, the canadian stock market almost crashed- a damage-control team stepped in, and mr. pogue stopped talking carborators; as he was busy running his new oil-filter manufacturing business, and reportedly died in a mental institution...

another "water trick," is injecting water "vapor" into the carboration process, and has been in limited use since wwii, and was used to extend the range of fighter aircraft in the pacific theater. in the mid-seventy's, during the first manufactured "oil crisis," you could buy one off the shelf at the local k-mart. i have built several of these devices over the years, and the results are a consistant increase in the mpg ratio; anywhere between 15%. to about a top end of 30%, depending of the size of the engine- the bigger, the better. i make mine out of mason jars. how-ever, now, it's just more fashionable to bitch, and complain...

bob

[mikefertynnz]

i graduated in 1973 and a year later i ran into a friend of mine who went to m.i.t. i asked him what he was doing for the betterment of mankind? and he told me that he was worried because one of his friends had just finished a prototype for a carburetor that got over 70 miles to a gallon of gas. he was visited by a couple of government looking people and he was gone the next day. no one knew anything about where he went, he was just gone.

there seems to be a long list of inventors who have died mysterious deaths or have just vanished. i believe that the truth is about to be revealed and it will be the catalyst that changes the world we live in.

i do think that david w. is right and that as the truth comes out we must focus on the future and let the past be history. you can not change the past, without changing the future. as free energy becomes available, the way we think about how our society operates, will evolve, and new opportunities will take the place of the jobs lost. we all must be willing to accept this and strive for it to happen as fast as possible. the only way for us to get past this is to embrace it. the world must be ready to move into a better way of living.

[MondayBlues]

yes it's true. i have also been building them from mason jars. along with a few other minor modifications i have achieved more than 50% improvement on my jeep gc using my version of the jar. i'm soon going to try to make my motorcycle fuel free using this technology. i'm certain it can be done.

[Prosocorneliay]

... how nasty it can get when it comes to owning the market. my uncle has to bail ship on an engine in the 50's because he was told to stop or his family would suffer. my ex had a neighbor that was murdered when he was just about to unveil an engine that ran on water to the public. this was in the 80's. there are undoubtedly many cases of this nature, if i know about two.

there was also a young man (25 years of age) who built a carburetor that got 300 miles to a gallon. he was offered 25m. he turned it down, and was taken out soon after. he knew they would buy it and shelve it, and didn't want that to happen.

if you listen to richard hoagland, he talks about the whole free energy thing that has been available for 40 years. you can listen to the interview here: [this 3 part project camelot interview was posted on the general discussions forum by lighteye on jan 13]

[jokilewqs]

i'm 100% sure that water can, and may be the answer to our energetic problems. and i say energetic because not only is this a matter of energy in terms of vehicles, homes, this computer i am typing into, but water is also prime to our physical energies.

what i understand so far about water -

it is comprised of two highly flammable and explosive elements: oxygen and hydrogen. yet when we need to put out a fire what do we do? we put this highly combustible mix on it! weird?!

as well, to my understanding, water is the only element that expands when it freezes as well as when it is heated. everything else expands with heat and contracts with cold.

so, already this stuff is standing outside of some physical laws and being given special exception to.

as well, water seeks a stasis at a temperature in the 40's (i'm re-searching for this data), meaning that if it is frozen it expends energy to become thawed. if it is warm it expends energy (evaporation) to become cooler.

and then of course there is dr. emoto's work with water.

i believe we have barely begun to touch what the technology of water has to offer us, on all levels, energetically speaking.

this is off the hip, so all input more than welcome.

love, blessings, and abundance,

frank-o

p.s.

here's a sideline question for y'all:

what holds more energy - a cubic-centimeter of water, or a cubic centimeter of space?

[enteltcheft]

the cubic centimeter of water. it holds all the energy of both the water and the space. :d

[mikefertynnz]

i have been giving this discussion a little thought and here is what i came up with.

you know those plasma balls that you can get in spencers. you know the kind that when you touch it the current is directed to your hand?

so if we could combine that with a way that the hydrogen could be removed from the water molecules and be redirected back as a power source could this be used as a self sustaining system. i see a chair that could power your computer, i see shoes and clothing that could power your small devices. who knows i may be totally underestimating this whole process and there may be more energy produced than i am thinking of.

any thoughts on this?