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Old 05-24-2008, 05:28 AM   #1
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Default Tricks Skeptics use
i am usually scared to reserach about skeptics...they just kill your hope, but i decided i must face my only fear of these so called debunkers, now don't me wrong it is healthy to have a certain amount of skepticism and discernment. and i'm saying saying they are always wrong either...they keep science sharp at least. here is a article of what tricks skeptics use

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/skeptictricks.htm
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Old 05-26-2008, 03:55 PM   #2
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skeptics usually look for false evidence, so they generally find it.
believers, likewise, look for evidence to support their beliefs, and so they too, generally find it.

so why do you need to prove the [non]existance of a thing at all?? as q'uo once said, in time/space beliefs and concepts are every bit as real as the table or the chair, but we simply don't see that in space/time.

it seems to me that there is as much obligation on the part of the skeptic to prove a thing does not exist, as the believer has to prove its existence. so if i get confronted by this, i simply say that i believe in its existence, and if you would like to convince me otherwise, then prove to me that it does not exist, and i will gladly share your belief.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:14 PM   #3
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i big weapon the skeptics employ is the word "conspiracy". it seems the moment that word is used the body of information is instantly discredited in the minds of the majority of the population.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:40 PM   #4
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while it is true that some skeptics approach matters with a zeal similar to religious extremists, i think they are the exception more than the rule.

speaking frankly, one area where i think that david would benefit greatly in terms of making his information more credible would be to include follow-up information on various claims he makes, directly or secondarily - claims which according to mainstream thought are extreme and therefore deserve to be treated with the utmost skepticism.

it is encumbent on david or those close to him to affirm that while this information may be true, that as of now there is no further supporting evidence to this dna morph claim other than that found in a german publication and/or the testimonial of this russian scientist that nobody can seem to locate.

2. likewise with the alleged facts that all of the planets in the solar system have been undergoing huge temperature changes. i don't doubt this, but i would sure like to have a list of links where i can get actual links from nasa and so on confirming this.

why is all of this worth stating?

because if we don't do this, if we don't question our sources - as presenters, or readers - very simply put, we might be getting ahead of ourselves.
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