[8Uxtkz7F]

thank you, rhonda. that really means a lot to me.

in the words of martin luther king:

there can be no deep disappointment where there is not deep love. this is what i was getting at. this is the fear that keeps people from totally and truly opening there hearts. and it takes great courage to go ahead and do it anyway. despite the fear.

foo

[adolfadsermens]

foosnik~
your words are encouraging to me as the mother of three sons in their 20's. my heart opened when i became their mother. an abusive childhood caused me to construct a wall around my heart to survive. but when that first baby showed up in my world, the walls came tumbling down. your courage makes me believe that these sons of mine will reopen the hearts that they had as youngsters. young people were sold a bill of stinky goods in the kind of life you expected to enjoy as adults. you actually are enduring some of the most critical maladies of the planet and society. to open your hearts now, in the middle of this, is incredibly brave. i admire you, foosnik.

[addyta.org]

it seems natural to close up when you get hurt, you could call it instinctive, a survival mechanism. that old man did what he had to do, he didn't have a choice in a way, and talking to the young man about his regret didn't seem to do either of them any good, as the young man died anyway.

i would like to be more open, sure, and i can hear those kinds of words and watch the movies and get reminded over and over, and none of it will make any difference unless and until whatever is meant to happen happens and the next step is taken.

however, you bringing this story to the forum is wonderful and i'd like to thank you , because it did get me to think and ponder and come up with a few things. there's a paradox there, i think.

i have this problem of trying to pass on my wonderful wisom to my girls, and it doesn't seem to make much difference. well, trying to pass on is an understatement, i more like force feed them, i'm embarrased to say. and i can't stop myself, no matter how many resolutions i make.

so i guess i gotta put the self forgiveness into action, and keep being reminded until it "takes" and i'm on my way. it helps to have this forum to talk in, it's like my thoughts get more coherence if i share them, having them dance around in my mind with no outlet is crazy making.

i really really appreciate and admire your honesty and willingness to share whatever is going on with you, foosnik, i'm sure it's appreciated by all.

love, larissa

[Julik19]

when the heart is empty, the mind is a useless thing...

heart of the sunrise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig6wolsayuk

[DoctorNiCYDEn]

in tibetan culture the "mind" is not even housed in the head or brain. the tibetan language equivalent of mind is understood to be located in the chest, in a place located "behind" the physical heart. and the heart will act as a filter or protector for letting in or keeping out experiences that are desired for our evolution or those that can be discarded.

try meditating on that sometime, very powerful medicine.

[8Uxtkz7F]

foosnik~
your words are encouraging to me as the mother of three sons in their 20's. my heart opened when i became their mother. an abusive childhood caused me to construct a wall around my heart to survive. but when that first baby showed up in my world, the walls came tumbling down. your courage makes me believe that these sons of mine will reopen the hearts that they had as youngsters. young people were sold a bill of stinky goods in the kind of life you expected to enjoy as adults. you actually are enduring some of the most critical maladies of the planet and society. to open your hearts now, in the middle of this, is incredibly brave. i admire you, foosnik.

yes! thank you. you really heard me. it is much harder to open your heart in these times than it is to fall in with the crowd and just serve myself with a cruel iron fist. your boys are probably going through the same thing i did. they must see that they would be heroic for opening their hearts and not weak like society dictates. it doesn't make them any less masculine, i it makes them honorable warriors. it is scary to love because once you let it in then you are vulnerable and at risk of being hurt or losing that love for whatever reason. i use to think i would rather have broken bones than a broken heart. but not anymore. well, we all must walk our own paths.

@ larissa

hey, thanks a lot for your kind words. seriously. thanks.

i can only say from my own experience that even though i did not get along with my mother much at all when i was growing up, i still heard all the words of wisdom that she gave me. and when i hit the real world i started to see what she was talking about and i was glad that i had that knowledge to fall back on. now my mom is my greatest ally. and i love her to death. your daughters are hearing you, they just don't have any real experience of their own to apply your wisdom to yet. but they will soon enough. and you will be thinking in the back of your mind, "see, i told ya so."

remember, the movie was only a dramatization, but the creator of that film really knew what he was talking about. so don't get hung up on the fact that they both died. the lesson he was trying to get across is most important, i think.

i know what you mean about needing to hear the responses from other people about your own thoughts. then you don't feel like you are crazy. i feel you there, i am the same way.

@ aghsan branch

but i always thought it was the mind that filters what is coming from the heart. i will meditate on that because that is an interesting bit of knowledge.

thanks.

[8Uxtkz7F]

ok, this thread is coming from the perspective of a young man, me, who is trying to figure out his way in this upside down world. i heard something the other day that really made me think, and it turns out that it is really going to help me grow in the future. for every young man, and women too, has to figure out who and how they want to be in this world.

i figured if it helped me so much it would probably help someone else out too.

the other day, i saw a japanese movie that had a lot of deep wisdom about the reality of crime and violence in babylon type streets. this was not a movie that glamorizes drugs and violence, like we hear so much of in music today, but one that shows what it really does to people. the depression, emotional destitution and torture that people suffer.

one of the characters is a hardened yakuzi lieutenant who is coming to the end of his rope. he is very wise despite his profession and, in this particular scene, he is giving some wisdom to his young protege, who is about to to do the very thing that he trained his protege to do so well. execute him. the protege was crying and did not want to do it because his mentor, the lieutenant, was like a father to him. the lieutenant comforted him and gave him his last words of wisdom. the end of the dialogue goes like this:

it is ok, young one, you must do now what i trained you to do so well. i knew it was coming and i am ready to die. but let me tell you one thing first. love is the most important thing. the problem with love is that the deeper you love the more pain you feel. don't be like me and close off the love from coming in. i was scared. i lost both my mother and father when i was very young, and i told myself i would never feel that pain again. but i regret this now. in my old age, i now wish i had had the courage to open my heart again. and to love again. all the fights and mean, terrible things i have done are cowardly in the face of opening your heart. be courageous, and love deeply. now, after you are done with me, go home and love your wife and children. the protege then said, "yes sir" and pulled the trigger. he then went home and got his wife and packed up his car and began to leave the city. as he was leaving he was also shot.

so, this is very powerful to me as a young man because i want to act with courage. i don't want to be a wimp. but this society looks at love as girl's stuff, wimpy stuff. so you can see the predicament a young man would be in. but that is not true for me anymore.

the path of greatest courage is the road to opening your heart.

because with the greatest love you are risking the greatest pain.

[kavaTeexy]

thank you for opening your heart daily and sharing your true feelings. wonderful. i also hope i can carry my own courage daily to love rather than at the risk of being at risk.

[enfoires]

so, this is very powerful to me as a young man because i want to act with courage. i don't want to be a wimp. but this society looks at love as girl's stuff, wimpy stuff. so you can see the predicament a young man would be in. but that is not true for me anymore.

the path of greatest courage is the road to opening your heart.

because with the greatest love you are risking the greatest pain.

foo,

any woman would be so proud to have a son like you, a partner like you or a father like you!

i have been lamenting over the last two days that i don't really see any show of emotion on this forum. there's a lot of pontificating & lecturing going on especially between older men and younger members. but only a few offshoots of discussions about the opening of the heart. and it's primarily women who are involved in these discussions.

i have two teenaged sons and my ultimate dream is to have them function as caring, loving, contributing citizens of this world who don't shy away from deep relationship.

so thank you for being man enough to show your true feelings!

hugs,
stacy

[8Uxtkz7F]

foo,

any woman would be so proud to have a son like you, a partner like you or a father like you!

i have been lamenting over the last two days that i don't really see any show of emotion on this forum. there's a lot of pontificating & lecturing going on especially between older men and younger members. but only a few offshoots of discussions about the opening of the heart. and it's primarily women who are involved in these discussions.

i have two teenaged sons and my ultimate dream is to have them function as caring, loving, contributing citizens of this world who don't shy away from deep relationship.

so thank you for being man enough to show your true feelings!

hugs,
stacy

wow, what a great compliment. thank you so much.

i played society's game for quite a while. i tried to be the tough guy who didn't feel anything or need anything from anybody. and the better i got at the game and became "successful", the more isolated and alone i felt.

it wasn't until i started to open up and really be real and honest about who i am and what i feel did my life start to be positive and truly enjoyable.

but this was the scariest and riskiest thing that i have ever done. it requires, for a time, to make yourself vulnerable. which, for no guy, is a comfortable feeling. and now i have begun to build strong healthy defenses around my "vulnerability". does that make sense? now that i have opened up with honesty, i can truly love, and right along with that came a back bone, and i have begun to protect myself in a healthy way for the first time. it is weird the way the two came hand in hand.

but your sons, and all guys, need to know that it does not take away your masculinity to be open and honest about what is in your heart. in fact, these days, it takes the toughest of men to be able to do it.

thank you so much for your compliment. it really means a lot to me.

foo

[GotActichwicy]

hello all! i am amazed at the parallels between this thread and the one i started yesterday about contacting our higher selves! i mentioned that my journey up to the contact was mostly an intellectual one , and that my heart needed to open more to facilitate contact - i was shown that very quickly during my initiation for contact! you are exactly right , we are taught to close up , get mean and stay rough , or we will not survive - my daughter is now 3 1/2 , and she was responsible for much opening of the heart chakra - my communication with my higher self both confirmed this , and allowed me to learn to fully open it , something i work on each day! i just wanted to say i am proud to be on this forum with folks such as you all are , and i am glad there are folks who , like myself , are opening their hearts! thank you for your example , and love! intellect , without the love , is nothing!

[kavaTeexy]

opening yourself and your heart, requires trust, trusting yourself fully. this was one of my own lessons that i had to recognize first, then apply it in my life. doubt is a filter that we tend to depend or trust much more than trusting and accepting our own inner feelings, those gut reactions that come from the heart.

take a stand, trust your heart with courage.

hello all! i am amazed at the parallels between this thread and the one i started yesterday about contacting our higher selves! - "that my heart needed to open more to facilitate contact"
- "you are exactly right , we are taught to close up , get mean and stay rough , or we will not survive "
- "heart chakra - my communication with my higher self both confirmed this , and allowed me to learn to fully open it"

[8Uxtkz7F]

opening yourself and your heart, requires trust, trusting yourself fully. this was one of my own lessons that i had to recognize first, then apply it in my life. doubt is a filter that we tend to depend or trust much more than trusting and accepting our own inner feelings, those gut reactions that come from the heart.

take a stand, trust your heart with courage.

yeah, especially when so much of the doubt seems to be coming from other people, even from your own family. then you start to trust and believe other people's doubt about you more than you trust your own gut and intuition about yourself.

this requires a lot of courage and backbone to be able to go against the grain and trust yourself. to stand up for yourself. even when no one else does.

and to open your heart, love yourself and believe in yourself. takes great courage. i have begun to take the leap of faith and so far my feet have fallen on solid ground. so it can be done. life does get better.

i love you guys,
foo

[allemnendup]

foosnik,

all together, a great post. i read your original post and was moved by the part you included from the movie you referenced. awesome! and profound!!

it's always good to know i'm not alone...

one 66

[User-Luser]

foosnik

you are a beautiful example of the new earth energy that is now upon us.

we have been in the power of male dominence for over 2000 years.

that constitutes control by means of fear. this includes both sexes as

as i am speaking of the energy as we are all both male and female.

david w. was one of the first male persons that i met that had this energy.

there is nothing weak about it at all . you are correct. you are a forunner!

through knowing david i have been met many

male persons who had the very strong energy of what some

refer to as the mary magdaline flame.

you are a great teacher and a great example of why things on earth will be

on such a higher vibrating consciousness.

to be on that higher vibrating consciousness one must deal with the ego

and all of that we have been brainwashed into thinking by this controlling

energy. hats off to ya!:d

[8Uxtkz7F]

foosnik

you are a beautiful example of the new earth energy that is now upon us.
we have been in the power of male dominence for over 2000 years.
that constitutes control by means of fear. this includes both sexes as
as i am speaking of the energy as we are all both male and female.
david w. was one of the first male persons that i met that had thisenergy.

there is nothing weak about it at all . you are correct. you are a forunner! through knowing david i have been met many
male persons who had the very strong energy of what some
refer to as the mary magdaline flame.

you are a great teacher and a great example of why things on earth will be on such a higher vibrating consciousness.

to be on that higher vibrating consciousness one must deal with the ego
and all of that we have been brainwashed into thinking by this controlling
energy. hats off to ya!:d

feels great to be a part of the new energy. it is so encouraging to here such positive feedback. no other forum is like this.

i absolutely feel things shifting as well.

i am thinking the new age will be more than just male/female. i am perfectly happy with it being female, don't get me wrong. but i was thinking the new age would be more about cooperation. we will all recognize each other's strengths and weaknesses and the right person for the job will do it. regardless of sex, race, religion, creed, or whatever.

i fully embrace both the male and female energies inside of me because they are both equally powerful and both serve a purpose. to deny myself one or the other would only make me half a human being. and i do not want to sell myself short.

thanks for the encouraging words,
foo