[stutnerman]

hi everyone,

i've been writing down my dreams for several months now, in as much detail as i can remember. i guess this would be the conscious mind recalling what it remembers from the dream. i've been studying "david's suggestions for dream analysis" and trying to apply these ideas, sometimes with obvious connections being made, but usually not. this is not to criticize david's analysis suggestions, but just to point out that i'm very new to analyzing my dreams.

i have noticed there are thoughts hovering around my mind when i wake up, but have not yet taken the step to write down into words what i am hearing. i intend to start this soon...like tomorrow!

my question is this: has david ever stated that the dream voice is the higher self speaking? has he said specifically that the dream voice is one entity or a group of entities speaking?

i'm open to the idea that i may have several guides assisting me, but i never resonated without anyone's ideas on how to classify them. life guide, main guide, secondary guide, this guide, that guide, etc. hope you see my point -- i'm not trying to be irreverant towards anyone, incarnate or otherwise. i'm just pointing out that any system i ever read of never made sense to me, seemed confusing and/or unnecessarily complicated.

so again, is the dream voice a single entity or a group, or could it vary amongst souls?

peace,
doug

p.s. excuse me if this point is covered elsewhere on the site; my search was admittedly cursory. also, i've just begun the law of one series and am not sure if the dream voice is mentioned therein.

[JulieSmithdccd]

i started it up again a few days ago and am pleased with what i'm getting this time around. anybody else doing it?

[ultramDoctoo]

i just get strangeness like last night i was meditating and heard, loudly, "when i was a kid" that's it! not too inspirational *sigh*

[SpeavaJap]

i have been doing the dream voice technique since i read about it here, and i am still having an everymorning "difficult to hear" message.
it seems that i am still solving some profound differences with my dear traditional, patriarcal, deeply catholic ortodoxe familly.......
conscientiously i can accept them now, i just stopped trying to convince them to be more "open", but .... the morning voice still brings things like "please set me free", dw tells us not to analyse the voice.... but i cant help thinking that part of me still needs "their" (mine in them....) acceptance....

[Nikkytas]

yes, this voice never really makes any sense. it is short and sporadic. sometimes it is accompanied by a song that seems to have a certian meaning to whatever i am doing or thinking. when the voice happens during the day it can make one feel like one is losing control. it is also very hard to remember what was siad just that something was siad. also, i had a good synchronicity last night at 1:11 my computer suddenly came out of hybernation on its own.

[JulieSmithdccd]

sometimes i get these little slogans transmitted to me through my dreams. i will share my favorites:

"mind your mind." (this one was unique—it came through as text that i "read")

"don't let your fears keep you from flying." (was told to me in a flying dream)

"run hard; rest easy." (came through the dream voice)

[goolen4you]

i have been accessing my equivalent of the “dream voice” and interpreting my dreams since the early 90’s and, without the benefit of david's guidance and inspiration, took a slightly different approach to the same end.

my path first directed me to a process i now call “soul centering,” which involves relaxing, clearing the mind, then connecting with the soul’s energy in the heart and filling the whole body and field with this higher frequency of energy. you can follow this by visualizing the light of your higher self above you and bringing this energy down, which raises your vibrations further. with a bit of practice, you can use this simple technique to connect with your higher wisdom, which is the part of you that can also provide quick and easy interpretations of your dreams.

when i started doing this process, i wasn’t thinking of interpreting dreams. my goal was to connect with my own source of guidance, which definitely happened. i started by making this connection, then, from this peaceful place, asking questions about my spiritual growth, the universe, etc. to bypass my rational mind, i would write the responses out just as david w. recommends, without analyzing the information flowing out onto the paper. in fact, my guidance wouldn’t give me enough words (and still won’t) to make sense of the message until i started writing. so i would start with a few words, like “the first thing …” and write out the message, with the conscious intent of not interpreting it or adding to it.

i was amazed with the results. this process completely changed my life. i became so excited to get up in the morning and do my soul centering that i would be up at 4 or 5am. my whole life changed. then i somehow started using this guidance to get information about my dreams, again writing out the message without evaluating it until it was done. i discovered that i could interpret dreams in a matter of minutes, where the books i had read recommended long, drawn out processes that could take weeks, with a lot of rational mind analysis that interrupts the flow from the unconscious and probably provides distorted results.

having learned about subpersonalities and different methods of hypnotherapy, i realized that, as david mentions, everything and everyone in the dreams referred to parts of me, and i started including conversations with the different things in the dreams to find out what they were there for. for example, if i dreamed that my car had a flat tire, i would talk with the flat tire and ask it what the problem was, again writing out the response without evaluating it. you can ask a winding road what it represents or what the heavy backpack you are carrying represents or what a dark figure that is following you represents. you can talk with anything or anyone in the dream. if you relax with it, they will all respond and you can explore all of the details.

at some point, i also learned that i could play out a dream, if the part i could recall didn’t seem to be complete. in my relaxed, soul-centered state, i just go back into the scene and let it play out, like day-dreaming. then i ask my guidance what it is about.

this is my “dream voice,” which are also my guides. from my experience, “doing the dream voice” is one of the most amazing things you can do to progress on your path. i love the statement (paraphrasing) that david w. made about how your dreams provide the most important message you need right now. if this is true, which i believe it is, i wouldn’t want to miss these messages for anything.

i analyze my dreams daily and i am continually amazed with the messages i receive, even when i can only remember what i call a small “snipit.” it doesn’t’ seem to matter, because the bigger picture develops by doing the process of communicating with my “dream voice.” this morning, for example, i noticed in retrospect that i wrote a full five pages of guidance from what i thought was not enough of a dream to amount to anything when i woke up and wrote out the snipits i could recall.

i also noticed that i can ask questions in the evening when i retire and receive responses in my dreams. or if i am involved in a project of some kind (my work is spiritual, writing, teaching, etc.), my “dream voice” provides detailed information to guide me. it just flows out effortlessly and reveals amazing things.

as david mentions, i find the key to be to relax and open to the voice without analysis. i also find that approaching it with childlike wonder can help for people who have a hard time getting started. don’t’ take it seriously; this may be the problem. this approach has worked for hundreds of people my husband and i have worked with personally and it does transform lives.

[SpeavaJap]

oh thank you thank you, it really makes sense!
and i as i was reading your post, it occured to me that the "please set me free" that i mentioned before has nothing to do with my parents at all !!!!!

thanks again for your words gettingthru!

[JulieSmithdccd]

@gettingthru:

wow. that's awesome. could you give some more details? like, do you lay down and get your info in the halfway asleep state or do you do it fully conscious, sitting up at your desk? do you do it at a certain time (is it 4 am or do you just get up then?) everyday? i'd like to try your method, since i routinely share my bed with a beautiful, but sleeping, girl and i'm loathe to wake her up.

[bebeacc]

very interesting post!

i myself have not (yet) began to really document or work with the 'dream voice', but i think i might have had some experiences with it:

one morning, i had just woken up, and i was still half-asleep. at that moment, i heard - loud and clear, like someone was talking to me, but inside my head - the words, "it would not be wise to stay here too long". it was a wise, feminine sounding voice, that reminded me of the elf galadriel in lord of the rings.

again, i have not worked with the 'dream voice' yet, so i'm not sure if that was it or not. is that what is considered the 'dream voice'? or is it something else, and was i just hearing voices in my head? hehe

[Anamehuskeene]

yeah i ocassionally hear this voice without trying, one day a lady said did you know that a dear carcass rots at the same rate as a persons? i woke up like like what the yell is that supposed to mean.

[goolen4you]

when i wake up in the morning, while lying in bed, i immediately go through whatever i can recall of my dreams to have the dream snipits clear in my mind. i share my bed, so i leave the room and immediately get out my journal. as i prepare my morning cup of green tea, i write everything down, then i go into my “sacred space.”

i think it really helps if you can have even a small sacred space where you go to connect with the divine. it reinforces the state. we have a little alcove and i sit there with my tea and journal and “connect” using the soul centering process mentioned earlier. i have always found it best to sit up straight, as the energy runs most freely this way. if you measure the energy flow through the body with a pendulum or dowsing rods, you can easily verify that having straight posture when sitting or standing makes a huge difference.

once i’m settled and connected, i start writing whatever my guidance has to say. usually they start by talking about the dream, but not always. they can surprise me with thoughts for other people or suggestions on diet, thoughts on politics or my spiritual path, or who knows what. i just write until they stop, then ask questions, which i write out in the journal. i have a close friend who prefers to use a computer, rather than a journal. it’s worth experimenting with different approaches and using whatever is most comfortable. i tried the computer, but i prefer being clear of the electronics.

dreams are so full of imagery, i sometimes return to a dream a second time if i am still wondering about some details i missed the first time.

i also have found it profoundly interesting that old characters from years or even decades ago come back again and again. for the last thirty years, i dreamed about a spiritual teacher i had in the 1970’s. in my dreams, i recognized him to represent the “false prophet,” who unwaveringly took away power from those who would allow him to, the lesson being that you have to claim your power and move on. nonetheless, i continued to have these dreams until a couple of weeks ago. in the dreams, i wouldn’t be a total follower, but i would hang around the group. the dreams evolved somewhat and i seemed to be learning from them, but something was holding onto me and i wasn’t getting the whole message.

after all these years, i finally recognized what a blessing he had been in my life. in the 80’s, i finally started to ask myself: if he could access higher guidance, why couldn’t i? and, perceiving missing pieces in his version of reality, why couldn’t i discover more myself? these questions released me from his control, and set me out on a magical journey to find what i perceived to be the missing pieces of the puzzle and to access my own source of wisdom.

synchronously, i was guided to exactly what i was seeking and the journey has been amazing. i don’t know when i would have learned this lesson if he had not been there actively seeking to take my power and wisdom from me. i guess it’s an example of how the “service to self” people play positive roles.

to me, accessing your inner wisdom is the very best thing you can do for yourself. taking the journey through life without your inner guidance is like taking a trip into uncharted territory without a roadmap and your unique spiritual path is definitely uncharted. having a roadmap in hand accelerates your development exponentially and it is the most exciting experience imaginable.

it may also help to realize that you will receive information at the level of vibration you are on. when you wake up in the morning, your rational mind probably hasn’t kicked in yet and taken control of your consciousness, so you are in a relaxed state that is conducive to accessing inner guidance. you will want to stay in this place, not allow yourself to start thinking about everything you have to do. if you connect with a place in yourself where you feel whole and complete, where all is one, you will access information from this place. this is what soul centering does for me. you can also focus on recalling a time when you felt connected with the oneness of all-that-is to recreate that state. with a little practice, you should be able to feel connected quickly.

[JulieSmithdccd]

muchas gracias, gettingthru. i will see what i can integrate from your techniques into mine. i'm finding that it's easier to hear the voice as i'm falling asleep at night, since i really really like sleep (even when i was a kid, i used to look forward to sleeping at the end of the day) and i will more often than not simply allow myself to slip back into dreamland in the morning than actively listen. discipline, i tell myself, discipline! but i don't seem to listen.

still, i am being good about entering my dreams in the mornings. so maybe i can do something with that. when you write out what your guidance has to say, is it like automatic writing where you start off just scribbling and not looking at the notebook, or is it like the dream voice where you wait to hear a word and then write it down?

[ultramDoctoo]

the other day i had something weird happen, twice i woke up and wrote down a set of 4 numbers, i figure it must be a date as on the top of the i wrote (in the dark!) 1791 and on the bottom 1871, so i looked it up in google and found several interesting people who lived from 1791-1871!

i wonder if these might be dates corresponding to a past life? since i've been meditating on the possibility of finding out past incarnations i wonder if it's a 'clue'? has this happened to any of you out there?