[suiviouse]

"look at this", he says, pointing at a photo of an exquisitely carved sculpture showing an animal, half-human, half-lion. "it’s a sphinx, thousands of years before egypt. southeastern turkey, northern syria - this region saw the wedding night of our civilization."

http://www.eurasianet.org/department...v041708a.shtml



amazing year for paradigm-smashing already...
first, breaking of the clovis barrier, now a civilization that predates the neolithic revolution.

[suiviouse]

i just realize something else... look at the loo passage:

"approximately 11,000 of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. the second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately 10,821 years in the past according to your illusion. this created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of atlantis was no more, having been inundated. three of the positively-oriented of the atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call tibet, what you call peru, and what you call turkey."

they said that the destruction happened 10,821 yet the three groups left before that. this new discovery is approx 11,500. fitting very, very closely with this timeline and it's in turkey, one of the three locations mentioned. wow. wow... and again, they found carved sphinxes... and they just barely started excavating this, i'm sure there's more stuff...

[ultramDoctoo]

hehe! and slowly the rest of the world begins to catch up with what the rest of us has known for years!

what's funny is these modern discoveries of ancient civilizations are always lauded as 'amazing' and 'will change all the history books' but for whom? surely not for edgar cayce readers and plato readers etc, heck i've known that civilization has been around far longer than what corporate school text books say for decades now!

my guess is that most of us are not shocked to discover that civilization existed 12,000 years ago! am i wrong?

[suiviouse]

actually, there is apparently a wikipedia article about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/g%c3%b6bekli_tepe

though, this is still super cutting edge, as even the wikipedia article did not have the information about the sphinx, which, at least in reference to us, is perhaps the most significant discovery besides the date and location.

this is big. very big. it boosts us, and especially loo in a huge way. here are four reasons.


1. it's dated approx 11,500. loo dates first atlantean war to 11,000 and says that three positively oriented groups left before the first war.

2. it's in turkey. loo says that the three sto groups went to tibet, peru, and turkey.

3. it has sphinxes. the sphinx in egypt is older than the pyramids, per the weathering theory, and david's hypothesis.

4. from the wikipedia article: "it is also apparent that the animal and other images are peaceful in character and give no indications of organized violence." - a smoking gun for sto

there are monoliths t-bars, and lots of other stuff i do not know what to make of though, maybe david does? either way, this tends to be a rather strong case for the veracity of the loo material, which implies that we would not have found civilization significantly older than 11,000 - the date of the war, and a bit earlier of which the three sto groups left.

i can't wait to see what else they find... apparently the sphinxes were just found a little while ago. this is going to explode, my friends.

[suiviouse]

"while the site formally belongs to the earliest neolithic (ppn a), up to now no traces of domesticated plants or animals have been found. the inhabitants were hunters and gatherers. schmidt speculates that the site played a key function in the transition to agriculture; he assumes that the necessary social organization needed for the creation of these structures went hand-in-hand with the organized exploitation of wild crops.

recent dna analysis of modern domesticated wheat compared with wild wheat has shown that its dna is closest in structure to wild wheat found in a mountain (karacadağ) 20 miles away from the site, leading one to believe that this is where modern wheat was first domesticated."

- i am imagining that this, one of the positive atlantean groups, fled the destruction of atlantis, and though they did not bring any technology with them, still had knowledge of farming and other techniques. therefore they became the first to domesticate grain and form social structures.

"around the beginning of the 8th millennium bc, "navel mountain" lost its importance. the advent of agriculture and animal husbandry brought new circumstances to human life in the area. but the complex was not gradually abandoned and simply forgotten, to be obliterated by the forces of nature over time. instead, it was deliberately covered with 300 to 500 cubic metres of soil. why this happened is unknown, but it preserved the monuments for posterity.

at present, the complex raises more questions to archeology and prehistory than it answers. for example, we cannot tell why more and more walls were gradually added to the interiors while the sanctuary was in use."

-i find it fascinating that when the site was abandoned, it was deliberately covered up. it may well have been a purposeful attempt to preserve this site for us. did this group leave, and become the sphinx-builders in egypt? it's not an impassable distance to go to egypt from turkey. many now believe that there is a chamber under the sphinx with records of atlantis(including boriska)... maybe it was this group that created these records.

[JulieSmithdccd]

yep. science will eventually catch up with a kentucky photographer who talked in his sleep (we hope!). in the meantime, i take this as validation that perhaps the rest of the material is spot-on as well. which gives me hope. and i wish there had been photos in that article.

[icedrakona]

[quote=dazcox;31572]hehe! and slowly the rest of the world begins to catch up with what the rest of us has known for years!

that is, of course, if this new knowledge is ever allowed to see the light of day!
you know how covetously the established history makers hold to their model of reality. i'm afraid the average person will never know about this sort of find. unless they are curious enough to do some digging, it will remain a couple of lines on page 11 of the culture section of the ny times.