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**errolespopume** · 02-09-2007, 07:37 PM

andymonk,

i would suggest that if you are interested in the flower of life design you and are asking for more information, you should look up the history of islamic - sufi - geometry. islamic eotheric art is based on this sacred geometry. each number, form, and sound have a correspondence, and therfore also a meaning. the flower of life design is a typical case of artistic sacred sufi geometry.

here's a link

http://www.etereaestudios.com/docs_h...ovie_index.htm

derviche

**Zoxeeoy** · 03-08-2007, 02:53 PM

i believe,the symbol is the complete ancient flower of life. the complete fol is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,collective unconscious or whatever you want to call it). the universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. the original fol(found in "the osireion" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three(pic1+2). the complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional(first post). if you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. do not strain your eyes as it will happen naturally. we do not see with our eyes,we see through our eyes. let your mind focus,dont fight it. you may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. this is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears.

4love and light 2all

x the complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion.

**Zoxeeoy** · 03-08-2007, 02:57 PM

the complete ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life(pic1). the complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids(pic2). not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation itself.

x http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm

**Zoxeeoy** · 03-08-2007, 02:58 PM

the incomplete fol is found all over the ancient world. the oldest and original incomplete fol is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. the osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. to this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can or wont give a date for the flower. neither will they explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. any opinions? i believe the flower has been delibarately ignored by mainstream science so world secret societies can keep the flowers secrets hidden.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/msn/gar.../osireion.html http://www.grahamhancock.com/library/fotg/c45-5.htm

**Zoxeeoy** · 03-08-2007, 03:05 PM

i am in the process of watching drunvalo's ancient secret of the flower of life workshop filmed in 1993. about 32 more hours to go. lol

those are some great pictures on your blog site.

i have been trying to get in contact with drunvalo and the rest of the flower of life people for six months. when i tried to post the complete flower on his forum,he shut the forum down. either they think the complete flower is nonsense or they are worried that it could prove their work wrong. i,m beginnning to think drunvalo is a snakeoil salesman.

does anyone have an opinion on drunvalo?

**errolespopume** · 03-09-2007, 03:25 PM

sacred geometry has been practiced since the beginning of humanity. it represents the unfolding of life in its varied multidimensional processes of evolution, in the macro as well as in the micro cosmos. humanity flowered somewhere in the midst. arab mathematicians were the greatest masters of sacred geometry of our time, they brought philosophy, literature (even our alphabet) mathematics, astonomy, physics, medical sciences to places in the world where they would find fertile ground for intelligent societies to pick up and develop. before the inquisition in spain that was commanded by queen isabella the catholic, a powerful group of jewish, muslim, and christian illuminati gathered in toledo, to think, write, and teach this knowledge together, in an environment where religious tolerance allowed all these sciences to flourish. unfortunately, as said before, the inquisition took over europe and launched it into an age darkness and retardation. for these sacred sciences to surive, the great masters had to tarn them, and so groups of underground teachers formed societies whose prime function was to rescue and protect the sacred knowledge, so it became secret. one of the most remarkable cases is the tarot. the tarot was originally a book of wisdom, one of the most ancient books of humanity. during the dark ages it became to dangerous to handle. so the sages thought out something really smart, since all people like to play, and people in those days did more of that because it was one of their only ways of entertainment, the masters wisely converted the tarot into a game of cards. poeple would want those cards to play and gamble, but those who knew, could study the protected content. sacred geometry is more then just drawing lines and circles. it is the blueprint for cosmic energetic forces and vortexes.

**SaamanthaSterlyng** · 03-12-2007, 08:57 PM

as i studied and reflected on what was shared by andymonk and frankensign and the symbols, especially the wheel and spokes, i felt a called to write this and share. is the various symbols in the pictures and flower of life of the animals, land masses (mountains) and balancing tools pointing us to the balance of all life, including the elements and their association to us?

circle of life, wheel of balance to keep spinning (scared geometry)

http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogspot.com/

the forces of life (air, fire, earth, water and spirit) and their association are the symbols related to the balance and harmony of all that is. cooperation with all that is is the key that turns the wheel of life. humanity should be careful not to manipulate the life of all that is, the life found within our elements for its own selfish purpose. life of the plants, trees, fish, water, land, birds, animals, insects, minerals and earth's formations. our circle of life must move forward in balance and cooperation with all life. god is life, god is light and god is love.

we are the children of the elements, composed of and part of the elements. the world and our bodies were made so that we may find and express the joy of all creation, but we are destroying ourselves because we think we are separate from the rest of life. when the wind blows, it is part of you; the sun gives to you with each sunbean; from the water you came, the water joins you all. without the air you breathe, you could not live. if one suffers, the whole consciousness of the earth partakes of that. and when one rejoices (love), the whole takes part.

the scared geometry wagon wheel has 6 spooks! do they represent our elements: air, fire, earth, water, spirit, balance. i think they do ! when the balance exist through cooperation, the wheel moves, when it does not exist, the wheel stops..

we have used force on nature, resulting in imbalance. there is another way to produce change, and growth, that is cooperation and love for the balance and harmony of all that is. the key is cooperation. better results can come if we use love, and not force.

genesis i:i to 2:7
genesis = 1st book of the old testament; giving account of the creation of the universe. a beginning; origin; creation

how god made the world and all that is in it,
1:1 in the beginning god created the heaven and the earth (water)
1:3 let there be light (fire, the spark of life)
1:6 let there be a firmament in the midst of the water and let it divide the waters from the waters (air)
1:9 let the waters under the heaven be gathered together, let the dry land appear (earth)
1:11 let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit
1:14 let there be light; divide the day from night and let them be signs, and seasons, and days and years
1:20 let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and the fowl that my fly above the earth in the open firmation of heavens. and god created every living creature that moveth
1:24 let the earth bring forth living creatures after his kind, cattle, creeping thing and beast god saw that it was good
1:26 let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea (water), over the fowl, (air), over the cattle (earth) and over every creeping thing that creepeth
2:1 thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them
2:7 and the god formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (spirit)

edgar cayce reading 3976-28
4. as for the individuals here, - peace must begin within self before there may be the activity or the application of self in such a manner as to bring peace in thine own household, in thine own heart , in thine own vicinity, in thine own state or nation. and only one agreement: worship god in a manner that is in keeping with the dictates of thy conscience
6. when there has been in the earth those groups that have sufficiently desired and sought peace, peace will begin. it must be within self
3744-2
40. (q) what is meant by the gods of the universe referred to in the readings?

(a) just as in this. all force has its incentive, the directing or creating of
that force. that force to the human mind apparent, as different conditions, or relations, as referred to as the god, or the ruling force, of that individual
force, as is giving the expression, and is referred to as the god, as of war, as of peace, as of water, as of the elements under the sea. as of those above, as the god of high heaven, the ruler over all, the one in all and the all in one.

5753-1
the mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. if one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded.
as we may find in a material world: envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of man! longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light.

choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve.

...reach out to all of life day by day. give love and bridge the light between all life and yourself. love all that is as it was meant to be and become one with it. all of life is part of you. god is life!

find it in your own, to live in harmony with all that is. love r

**iioijjjkkojhbb** · 04-08-2007, 09:53 AM

i believe,the symbol is the complete ancient flower of life.

i went to the link you attatched (http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogs...r-of-life.html) and there is nothing there that really explains why it is the complete fol or where they got this complete image. i am open to the idea but i more apt to think that the ancients knew it was complete as is (other than the idea that is was a 2-d representation of 3-d spheres). i'm most likely to agree with michael h. that this is a "stylized" version until there is more evidence to think otherwise. still is a cool version though.

as for direct ra correlations with fol or thoth, i am very curious but haven't heard of any yet so far (except the 5 platonic solids). and i'm not sure about drunvalo's overall (angels/thoth) information as being accurate or the truth either but as leo s. said, he does know alot about the fol and it's geometries. i take what info i like and put the rest aside for later examination. i think it may actually be the "creation pattern" for all form and structure because you can find as drunvalo explains that it fits in very well with the geometries of the 5 platonic solids and all other sacred geometries which are the basics for all matter and form. that and it was found all over the world, it had to mean something big.

~gabe

**Zoxeeoy** · 05-12-2007, 11:29 PM

i believe the g of freemasonry symbolises the complete flower of life.

x

**SaamanthaSterlyng** · 06-12-2007, 05:58 PM

andy,

g being god
and god being all that is and all that will be?

**Zoxeeoy** · 07-07-2007, 03:32 PM

is this symbol the complete ancient flower of life? i would appreciate any opinions

**Ztcgtqvb** · 07-07-2007, 10:32 PM

i am in the process of watching drunvalo's ancient secret of the flower of life workshop filmed in 1993. about 32 more hours to go. lol

those are some great pictures on your blog site.

**anaisdannyxys** · 07-08-2007, 01:49 AM

here are a good variety of flower of life symbols, including a rare shot from the temple at abydos where the flower of life is etched in stone by some wonderous and currently unduplicated ancient technology (at least so far as i know).

http://www.floweroflife.org/folindia.htm

as far as what the "complete" symbol would be? as i understand it the flower of life is at the basis of all form and structure. all the sacred geometries can be drawn from it and that is what makes it such a sacred symbol. it is as simple and perfect a representation of the holographic principle of this universe as one might imagine. so in that sense only an image of the universe in its entirety could be considered the "complete" flower of life. a bit too cumbersome, eh? so, i think the symbol is generally considered complete enough in the version depicted at abydos, which is plenty old enough to give it some vital authority.

look into the work of drunvalo melchizedek on the nature of the flower of life and the formation of consciousness. i make no claim as to the veracity of all his claims, but his understanding of the flower of life itself is worth exploring. i find it amazing and coherent. as well, a fella by name of bruce rawles has done much excellent work toward providing an understanding of how sacred geometry unfolds.

and remember, a flower is a process, not a frozen moment, just as we are!

i don't recall a mention of the flower of life in what i have read so far of david's material. is there more input out there?

love, blessings, and abundance to you andymonk, and to all else here and everywhere as well!

frank-o

**Zoxeeoy** · 07-12-2007, 04:54 PM

andy,

g being god
and god being all that is and all that will be?

at the highest level the g(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol.

x

**SaamanthaSterlyng** · 07-13-2007, 12:46 AM

thanks andy, not quite there., will allow it to sink in to find understanding for me... not sure if you are leading to the value mankind puts on stuff, i.e., in the beginning there was the word and the word was god. its not the word, the letter, its the reference to x and placing some weight on the x. ?

a thinker., can over do it too... r

**Faungarne** · 08-07-2007, 05:52 PM

andy,
this is, in my opinion, a "styalized" version. the version we see in the ancient world, all over the globe, is the simplest one possible which contains all the information systems of creation. this info i give you comes straight from [email for name's] work which he claims comes from thoth,the supossed and self confessed builder of the great pryramid. i have been drawing the flower of life and studying [email for name's] work for years now. i have certainly come to the conclusion that there is an infinite number of ways to derive patterns from the basic seed of life design to the fruit of life, which was partially hidden from the uninitiated. it seems this image not only contains the geometric blueprint of 3-d, 4-d reality, it seems to also contain the level of consciousness we are on right now as well as where we are headed. maybe this is the reason for stopping an infinite design at a particular place, to convey the message of where the designers were in their particular conciousness evolution and where they were moving to (or moved). one thing to notice about the flower of life is that there are two rings around the entire pattern. i wont go further into this but it is key to understanding what this image truly stands for. i will say this, ive never seen this version before and it is quite beautiful. thanks for the post!

one more thing, is thoth mentioned in the ra material or davids work? it seems to me he almost must be a part of the ra soulgroup. forgive me if i ask an obvious question but its been years since ive discovered this website and as long since ive read the material.

one more one more thing, anyone wishing to discuss [email for name] and other related work is welcome to contact me personally.

thanks, hyatt

**Zoxeeoy** · 08-10-2007, 03:20 PM

the complete ancient flower of life is the template.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/new-f...or-55150.shtml

**iioijjjkkojhbb** · 08-11-2007, 03:59 AM

i created and drew the complete flower. this is a new discovery and it is not easy to explain. i am a self educated working class guy,who doesnt have the words to describe the complete flower the way i would like. i will answer any questions the best i can.

andymonk,

if you can, describe the best way you can on how you got to this 'complete' design and why you believe it to be the complete one. i am still curious.

thanks,
gabe

**Zoxeeoy** · 08-12-2007, 03:32 PM

the complete flower of life is thee template. if you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to trace out any known written alphabet.

**Zoxeeoy** · 08-13-2007, 12:42 AM

i have cut down my original drawing to the dimensions of the flower found in "the osireion". this flower works better for the contemplation.

02-09-2007, 07:37 PM	#1
errolespopume Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	andymonk, i would suggest that if you are interested in the flower of life design you and are asking for more information, you should look up the history of islamic - sufi - geometry. islamic eotheric art is based on this sacred geometry. each number, form, and sound have a correspondence, and therfore also a meaning. the flower of life design is a typical case of artistic sacred sufi geometry. here's a link http://www.etereaestudios.com/docs_h...ovie_index.htm derviche Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2007, 02:53 PM	#2
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	i believe,the symbol is the complete ancient flower of life. the complete fol is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,collective unconscious or whatever you want to call it). the universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. the original fol(found in "the osireion" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three(pic1+2). the complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional(first post). if you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. do not strain your eyes as it will happen naturally. we do not see with our eyes,we see through our eyes. let your mind focus,dont fight it. you may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. this is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. 4love and light 2all x the complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2007, 02:57 PM	#3
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	the complete ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life(pic1). the complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids(pic2). not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation itself. x http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2007, 02:58 PM	#4
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	the incomplete fol is found all over the ancient world. the oldest and original incomplete fol is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. the osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. to this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can or wont give a date for the flower. neither will they explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. any opinions? i believe the flower has been delibarately ignored by mainstream science so world secret societies can keep the flowers secrets hidden. http://www.users.bigpond.com/msn/gar.../osireion.html http://www.grahamhancock.com/library/fotg/c45-5.htm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-08-2007, 03:05 PM	#5
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	i am in the process of watching drunvalo's ancient secret of the flower of life workshop filmed in 1993. about 32 more hours to go. lol those are some great pictures on your blog site. i have been trying to get in contact with drunvalo and the rest of the flower of life people for six months. when i tried to post the complete flower on his forum,he shut the forum down. either they think the complete flower is nonsense or they are worried that it could prove their work wrong. i,m beginnning to think drunvalo is a snakeoil salesman. does anyone have an opinion on drunvalo? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-09-2007, 03:25 PM	#6
errolespopume Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 474 Senior Member	sacred geometry has been practiced since the beginning of humanity. it represents the unfolding of life in its varied multidimensional processes of evolution, in the macro as well as in the micro cosmos. humanity flowered somewhere in the midst. arab mathematicians were the greatest masters of sacred geometry of our time, they brought philosophy, literature (even our alphabet) mathematics, astonomy, physics, medical sciences to places in the world where they would find fertile ground for intelligent societies to pick up and develop. before the inquisition in spain that was commanded by queen isabella the catholic, a powerful group of jewish, muslim, and christian illuminati gathered in toledo, to think, write, and teach this knowledge together, in an environment where religious tolerance allowed all these sciences to flourish. unfortunately, as said before, the inquisition took over europe and launched it into an age darkness and retardation. for these sacred sciences to surive, the great masters had to tarn them, and so groups of underground teachers formed societies whose prime function was to rescue and protect the sacred knowledge, so it became secret. one of the most remarkable cases is the tarot. the tarot was originally a book of wisdom, one of the most ancient books of humanity. during the dark ages it became to dangerous to handle. so the sages thought out something really smart, since all people like to play, and people in those days did more of that because it was one of their only ways of entertainment, the masters wisely converted the tarot into a game of cards. poeple would want those cards to play and gamble, but those who knew, could study the protected content. sacred geometry is more then just drawing lines and circles. it is the blueprint for cosmic energetic forces and vortexes. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-12-2007, 08:57 PM	#7
SaamanthaSterlyng Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	as i studied and reflected on what was shared by andymonk and frankensign and the symbols, especially the wheel and spokes, i felt a called to write this and share. is the various symbols in the pictures and flower of life of the animals, land masses (mountains) and balancing tools pointing us to the balance of all life, including the elements and their association to us? circle of life, wheel of balance to keep spinning (scared geometry) http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogspot.com/ the forces of life (air, fire, earth, water and spirit) and their association are the symbols related to the balance and harmony of all that is. cooperation with all that is is the key that turns the wheel of life. humanity should be careful not to manipulate the life of all that is, the life found within our elements for its own selfish purpose. life of the plants, trees, fish, water, land, birds, animals, insects, minerals and earth's formations. our circle of life must move forward in balance and cooperation with all life. god is life, god is light and god is love. we are the children of the elements, composed of and part of the elements. the world and our bodies were made so that we may find and express the joy of all creation, but we are destroying ourselves because we think we are separate from the rest of life. when the wind blows, it is part of you; the sun gives to you with each sunbean; from the water you came, the water joins you all. without the air you breathe, you could not live. if one suffers, the whole consciousness of the earth partakes of that. and when one rejoices (love), the whole takes part. the scared geometry wagon wheel has 6 spooks! do they represent our elements: air, fire, earth, water, spirit, balance. i think they do ! when the balance exist through cooperation, the wheel moves, when it does not exist, the wheel stops.. we have used force on nature, resulting in imbalance. there is another way to produce change, and growth, that is cooperation and love for the balance and harmony of all that is. the key is cooperation. better results can come if we use love, and not force. genesis i:i to 2:7 genesis = 1st book of the old testament; giving account of the creation of the universe. a beginning; origin; creation how god made the world and all that is in it, 1:1 in the beginning god created the heaven and the earth (water) 1:3 let there be light (fire, the spark of life) 1:6 let there be a firmament in the midst of the water and let it divide the waters from the waters (air) 1:9 let the waters under the heaven be gathered together, let the dry land appear (earth) 1:11 let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit 1:14 let there be light; divide the day from night and let them be signs, and seasons, and days and years 1:20 let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and the fowl that my fly above the earth in the open firmation of heavens. and god created every living creature that moveth 1:24 let the earth bring forth living creatures after his kind, cattle, creeping thing and beast god saw that it was good 1:26 let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea (water), over the fowl, (air), over the cattle (earth) and over every creeping thing that creepeth 2:1 thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them 2:7 and the god formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (spirit) edgar cayce reading 3976-28 4. as for the individuals here, - peace must begin within self before there may be the activity or the application of self in such a manner as to bring peace in thine own household, in thine own heart , in thine own vicinity, in thine own state or nation. and only one agreement: worship god in a manner that is in keeping with the dictates of thy conscience 6. when there has been in the earth those groups that have sufficiently desired and sought peace, peace will begin. it must be within self 3744-2 40. (q) what is meant by the gods of the universe referred to in the readings? (a) just as in this. all force has its incentive, the directing or creating of that force. that force to the human mind apparent, as different conditions, or relations, as referred to as the god, or the ruling force, of that individual force, as is giving the expression, and is referred to as the god, as of war, as of peace, as of water, as of the elements under the sea. as of those above, as the god of high heaven, the ruler over all, the one in all and the all in one. 5753-1 the mind is the builder ever, whether in the spirit or in the flesh. if one's mind is filled with those things that bespeak of the spirit, that one becomes spiritual-minded. as we may find in a material world: envy, strife, selfishness, greediness, avarice, are the children of man! longsuffering, kindness, brotherly love, good deeds, are the children of the spirit of light. choose ye (as it has ever been given) whom ye will serve. ...reach out to all of life day by day. give love and bridge the light between all life and yourself. love all that is as it was meant to be and become one with it. all of life is part of you. god is life! find it in your own, to live in harmony with all that is. love r Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-08-2007, 09:53 AM	#8
iioijjjkkojhbb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 375 Senior Member	i believe,the symbol is the complete ancient flower of life. i went to the link you attatched (http://thecompletefloweroflife.blogs...r-of-life.html) and there is nothing there that really explains why it is the complete fol or where they got this complete image. i am open to the idea but i more apt to think that the ancients knew it was complete as is (other than the idea that is was a 2-d representation of 3-d spheres). i'm most likely to agree with michael h. that this is a "stylized" version until there is more evidence to think otherwise. still is a cool version though. as for direct ra correlations with fol or thoth, i am very curious but haven't heard of any yet so far (except the 5 platonic solids). and i'm not sure about drunvalo's overall (angels/thoth) information as being accurate or the truth either but as leo s. said, he does know alot about the fol and it's geometries. i take what info i like and put the rest aside for later examination. i think it may actually be the "creation pattern" for all form and structure because you can find as drunvalo explains that it fits in very well with the geometries of the 5 platonic solids and all other sacred geometries which are the basics for all matter and form. that and it was found all over the world, it had to mean something big. ~gabe Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-12-2007, 11:29 PM	#9
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	i believe the g of freemasonry symbolises the complete flower of life. x Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-12-2007, 05:58 PM	#10
SaamanthaSterlyng Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	andy, g being god and god being all that is and all that will be? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-07-2007, 03:32 PM	#11
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	Unknown ancient(sacred)geometry is this symbol the complete ancient flower of life? i would appreciate any opinions Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-07-2007, 10:32 PM	#12
Ztcgtqvb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	i am in the process of watching drunvalo's ancient secret of the flower of life workshop filmed in 1993. about 32 more hours to go. lol those are some great pictures on your blog site. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-08-2007, 01:49 AM	#13
anaisdannyxys Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	here are a good variety of flower of life symbols, including a rare shot from the temple at abydos where the flower of life is etched in stone by some wonderous and currently unduplicated ancient technology (at least so far as i know). http://www.floweroflife.org/folindia.htm as far as what the "complete" symbol would be? as i understand it the flower of life is at the basis of all form and structure. all the sacred geometries can be drawn from it and that is what makes it such a sacred symbol. it is as simple and perfect a representation of the holographic principle of this universe as one might imagine. so in that sense only an image of the universe in its entirety could be considered the "complete" flower of life. a bit too cumbersome, eh? so, i think the symbol is generally considered complete enough in the version depicted at abydos, which is plenty old enough to give it some vital authority. look into the work of drunvalo melchizedek on the nature of the flower of life and the formation of consciousness. i make no claim as to the veracity of all his claims, but his understanding of the flower of life itself is worth exploring. i find it amazing and coherent. as well, a fella by name of bruce rawles has done much excellent work toward providing an understanding of how sacred geometry unfolds. and remember, a flower is a process, not a frozen moment, just as we are! i don't recall a mention of the flower of life in what i have read so far of david's material. is there more input out there? love, blessings, and abundance to you andymonk, and to all else here and everywhere as well! frank-o Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-12-2007, 04:54 PM	#14
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	andy, g being god and god being all that is and all that will be? at the highest level the g(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. x Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-13-2007, 12:46 AM	#15
SaamanthaSterlyng Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	thanks andy, not quite there., will allow it to sink in to find understanding for me... not sure if you are leading to the value mankind puts on stuff, i.e., in the beginning there was the word and the word was god. its not the word, the letter, its the reference to x and placing some weight on the x. ? a thinker., can over do it too... r Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-07-2007, 05:52 PM	#16
Faungarne Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	andy, this is, in my opinion, a "styalized" version. the version we see in the ancient world, all over the globe, is the simplest one possible which contains all the information systems of creation. this info i give you comes straight from [email for name's] work which he claims comes from thoth,the supossed and self confessed builder of the great pryramid. i have been drawing the flower of life and studying [email for name's] work for years now. i have certainly come to the conclusion that there is an infinite number of ways to derive patterns from the basic seed of life design to the fruit of life, which was partially hidden from the uninitiated. it seems this image not only contains the geometric blueprint of 3-d, 4-d reality, it seems to also contain the level of consciousness we are on right now as well as where we are headed. maybe this is the reason for stopping an infinite design at a particular place, to convey the message of where the designers were in their particular conciousness evolution and where they were moving to (or moved). one thing to notice about the flower of life is that there are two rings around the entire pattern. i wont go further into this but it is key to understanding what this image truly stands for. i will say this, ive never seen this version before and it is quite beautiful. thanks for the post! one more thing, is thoth mentioned in the ra material or davids work? it seems to me he almost must be a part of the ra soulgroup. forgive me if i ask an obvious question but its been years since ive discovered this website and as long since ive read the material. one more one more thing, anyone wishing to discuss [email for name] and other related work is welcome to contact me personally. thanks, hyatt Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2007, 03:20 PM	#17
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	the complete ancient flower of life is the template. http://news.softpedia.com/news/new-f...or-55150.shtml Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-11-2007, 03:59 AM	#18
iioijjjkkojhbb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 375 Senior Member	i created and drew the complete flower. this is a new discovery and it is not easy to explain. i am a self educated working class guy,who doesnt have the words to describe the complete flower the way i would like. i will answer any questions the best i can. andymonk, if you can, describe the best way you can on how you got to this 'complete' design and why you believe it to be the complete one. i am still curious. thanks, gabe Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-12-2007, 03:32 PM	#19
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	the complete flower of life is thee template. if you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to trace out any known written alphabet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-13-2007, 12:42 AM	#20
Zoxeeoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	i have cut down my original drawing to the dimensions of the flower found in "the osireion". this flower works better for the contemplation. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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