[boxcigsnick]

i enjoy the scientific research of david wilcock and am familiar with virtually all the topics he discusses. it seems like he touches on so many topics. i recently heard him talking about ormes and david hudson in an interview and it resurfaced a desire of mine to hear david wilcock comment on david wagner and tachyonized products for healing. i am really interested in "natural" living, and david wolfe has me interested in growing foods in a way that they contain high levels of orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements. in researching david wolfe i was turned on to gabriel cousens, who is a proponent of tachyonized healing tools. anyway, i was hoping to ask david wilcock his opinion of david wagner and tachonized tools. on a side note, it seems like a lot of the people in these interrelated fields have the name david. what's with that? i hope to ask david wilcock about david wagner and tachyonization, which i have heard him comment on so many connective topics but not this, however if i am unable i hope that someone else might be able to pose the question. many thanks

[connandoilee]

i don't know anything about it. in general i do not promote specific products. i think the best way to insure you get a steady diet of torsion fields is through sunlight exposure, walking in nature, getting a healthy organic diet and regular meditation. i don't use any torsion-related gadgets or products, quite honestly.

- david

[boxcigsnick]

that seems like the most sensible way to tap into the base potential energy in the environment. simple living.

i am curious as to weather david thinks there is a scientific basis for the concept that there is a possibility to focus the torsion field in such a way as to have a greater quantity of potential energy accessible in one area of space as compared to another, or is the amount of this background energy uniform (equally accessible to all lifeforms). [again from moderator: others of our forum are encouraged to answer to answer this]

does a tachyon antenna fit into david's scientific paradigm. i guess this is more accurately my curiosity(question).

[lorrieholdridge]

i spoke with mr. - a few days ago and his recommendation for me was to use some of the following items.

are these substances worth taking esp. given improvement may only be through placebo effect?

monatomic gold & diatomic indium

zerolight/spiralight -

if someone has scientific evidence or personal stories to back up the claims of these materials i welcome you posting what these preparations do that goes beyond good nutrition.

i am not attempting to be redundant. david speaks of his personal insight into torsion-related gadgets. however, i do not know if the iridium or supersilver, for example, also fall into that category.


david wilcock’s response:

i don't know anything about it. in general i do not promote specific products. i think the best way to insure you get a steady diet of torsion fields is through sunlight exposure, walking in nature, getting a healthy organic diet and regular meditation. i don't use any torsion-related gadgets or products, quite honestly.


thank you in advance.

[Hitfaromarf]

hi there.

i tried monatomic gold powder recently.

if there are any effects i got from it, they are very subtle- in other words, not worth the money i don't think. there were no noticeable effects.

david's advice is good.

also, we mustn't underestimate the power of our own consciousness- this is something far greater than any of these "gadgets".

[traithJah]

hudson did mention in his lectures that ormes did have positive effects on the human brain and body but he was regulated out of existence , he also holds a world wide patent on the stuff and its classified as a super conductor.
the stuff was capable of satisfying the worlds needs in regards to energy and if ingested it brought about kundalini activation its qualities are directly related to ufo technologies and the last person known who new how to make it was king solomans son whom was chased out of egypt with the last device which could make it the ark of the covenant .

[direct question to dw removed]

[traithJah]

[direct question to dw removed] ]

fair enough with that one he is obviously a busy man and can not keep up with all the questions

but whats with the name-email thing if interested my name is bill and my email is connected to user conundrum and of course i am interested other wise i wouldn't have asked

[name-email if interested] [moderator note: this simply means that the name of the person you posted was deleted, with a comment to your readers to e-mail you if they are interested in following up with this author hudson's name was removed in error and was inserted again.]

[traithJah]

morerator note: this simply means that the name of the person you posted was deleted, with a comment to your readers to e-mail you if they are interested in following up with this author david radius hudson is the guy whom perfected a method for producing ormes
and also holds a world wide patent on it , to my knowledge he hasn't written a book of such although there is video footage of his lecture and audio available .
is the guy in hiding or some thing why would you delete his name ?

[moderator note: as a general rule, authors and book titles are left out of posts (please see 'link to forum rules') although i know hudson isn't a book author, and has been mentioned on the forum previously, by me in fact. please bear with us mods as we go through our learning curve!]

[Bigroza]

the tacyon products that i have come across are just like the old snake oil deal - nobody can prove anything and the best results come from the placebo effect. save your money - try hypnosis

[IssuessBratte]

david wilcock has in fact presented in his online book series, 'convergence' evidence that the ormes phenomenon parallels the discovery of a new phase of matter which is described as atomic micro-clusters.

here, a previously unknown property wherein atomic nuclei gather in discrete bundles of platonic geometric proportion, in groups of up to @ 1000 nuclei if i recall correctly, losing their individual electron valence shells, the bundle now taking on these electrons in one envelope of negatively polarized energy.

the physics is presented which explains the exotic physical properties of the micro-cluster, to which phase of matter it seems that 'orbitally re-arranged monatomic elements' belong.

in fact, as far as i have been able to determine, wilcock's 'convergence' series is replete with the world's most far reaching and progressive gathering and synthesizing of cutting edge scientific research available, in support of the universal model of a unified field of consciousness underlying all existance, presented in a form understandable to the layman.

i'm personally wary of the idea of ingesting ormes material, as the body already contains large quantities of it naturally, quantities likely governed by the needs of the physical/spiritual health of the individual. one may want to guard against prematurely forcing open certain spiritually perceiving faculties of the body/mind/spirit complex, perhaps leaving this process to the individual's ongoing experiencing and mastery of life's catalytic challenges.

i guesss you would have to be very sure of your motives in taking this stuff, or any other consciousness-enhancing material, at the very least, as something tells me that if your motive is a spiritual short-cut, your efforts may well back-fire - something about 'taking the gates of heaven by force', as i've heard it said.

-markm

[traithJah]

is any one aware that hudson was suppling doctors with ormes so they could administer it to lost cause patients dieing of aids and cancer ect and was getting amazing results ?
he also found that pigs brains were some thing like 5% monatomic rhodium and also hinted that human brains were as well but he couldn't say so legally.
he basically said that with out it life wouldn't exist plant life included and much of the disease in the world today was due to its deficiency .
monatomic rhodium iridium and palladium were essential for a healthy body and monatomic gold was the stuff used for ascension you needed to get your body and mind in order before you ingested it he gave a warning it perfected your body but not your mind you got the choice of good or evil .
here is a link to his lecture in mp3 format http://bio-plasmics.org/orme.htm
its 4 or 5 hours long which scares most people off but he explains it better than any thing you will ever read and if you can get the video watch that in stead .
if its true which it sounds like it is as more evidence or new discoveries are verifying what he has said each day its got to be the most amazing discovery of our time he even blows the top of religion among other things the guy is or was an absolute genius .

[SarkisPioute]

thanks mate. i have heard about this powder for years, but never looked into it. appreciate the post as a reminder to now look into his work.