[Sensbachtal]

thank you, lotus.
great points.

i think the inertia i have been through has been due to the veil of life causing so much confusion and doubt.
i'm not feeling so bad these days though.
the other day i received this message when i went to visit this spiritualist church. i was so surprised and deeply moved- that someone had heard me when the other night i cried out in depression to the spirit world because i felt so confused and alone. the message left no doubt in my mind that it was genuine- this was beyond coincidence.

so many questions race round in my mind so often, so many different ideas in the world to weigh up with my mind, etc, etc....

i feel it is time to learn to go beyond just thinking.
to still the mind, to become more and more tuned in with intuition and my higher self.

the other task is forgiving myself, and loving myself more- even though there are some around me who don't understand me so well.
self hatred will not get me anywhere.

so many challenges to get through............

but yes. if we all just try and love more, in the best way we can, we can't do much wrong.

[Sensbachtal]

i hate to be the wet blanket in this discussion, but i don't want everybody to get through to 4th density positive any more than i want to see the tulips bloom in january.

what would be the point?

lol. good point.

i keep thinking now about something i read last night in david's free book section, about his life. he mentions his brother saw this spherical light in his room, and it told him the ascension process would be a gradual one.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...=115&itemid=36

so, who knows?

either way, this site is extremely rich with so much knowledge and wisdom.

[Sensbachtal]

i want everyone to get through......

i don't want anyone to be left behind- only if a person's free will desire would have it otherwise.....

i am often lazy; i get this sense of inertias through spiritual exhaustion- so i might not get through if it depends on being 51% in "service to others"- i really don't know what my score is. but i desire balance more than anything else. i know my soul really needs to find the answers. rushing around to help others, would only feed the material side of things- not the spiritual. and if i want to feed the spiritual, i feel that i need to first be enlightened myself- this requires time spent alone. is that service to self? will i be damned?

on the other hand, i know that my deepest desire is for the world to love each other, to have more understanding, for all beings to be free from any desire to harm another being's free will, to hurt or empower them.

i feel so strongly, that this will only come about through a much deeper understanding of everything, of each other.

this is what i just wrote somewhere:
idea.....
i wrote:

"i could spend my life, for example, helping to feed those without food.....
but this wouldn't make any difference, i don't think, on the infinite scale of things- it would only bring transient relief to merely our bodily "vehicles", for it wouldn't feed the soul....."


= different people
dedicated to feeding
different types
of hunger

together each knowflake (unique snowflake soul)- we'll fix this giant puzzle somehow....we will re-harmonize the melody of the creation, and transform the world to music, to harmony, once more!

thought~
if i was given the power to change anything, i would just give to the world more love, more understanding, a sense of oneness......

& melt away the desire for any being to harm a being's free will......

if it came true, i wonder what would happen????

could this dream come true?

is it possible?


how can "service to self" entities be responsible for their actions if it was the veil itself which caused them- the endless inclinations of this constance balancing act between yin and yang, that compels us?

"forgive them, they know not what they do".


i might not be grasping something in the bigger picture....these are just my thoughts.


i just want to see every being receiving love and free from pain..........

[lasadeykar]

awesome and lovely words. well written.

i hope that intention and desire alone will get us through.

i will not allow myself to feel bad about myself anymore.

and like i just heard whoopi goldberg just say, on the show "the view", "i want to stick around as long as i can."

ameliejolie, you are truly a saint and i always like to read your posts and what you have to say.

as well as every person here on this forum, i have love and compassion for you all!

no more fear !

please understand me and respect me. and i speak that for us all. not just myself.

please understand that i am not here to be malicious. only to learn how to open up and learn friendships.

[LSDDSL]

i think we all have our roles in the ascension process, and some are more "action oriented" than others.

if you want the world to have more love, make that your focus in sending the world more love. it is feeling rather than doing. i personally feel that my role is to be an anchor and bringer of light to my geographical area on earth, and that i was guided to move here 7 years ago so i would be in place.
so i open my crown chakra and bring in light and disperse it. nobody taught me how to do it, i just know that is my role.

my husband is a psychotherapist and he helps people in a much more direct and action oriented way. he has always been in service to others this lifetime, so this is his role.

your role should not be uncomfortable to you, although at times it may feel thrust upon you.

as far as everyone getting through to the 4th dimension, you are only responsible for yourself. we must allow others their free will and their own paths. so maybe it is not their will to ascend...

i think we sometimes make things seems harder than they need to be. you don't need to be gandhi to make a difference in the world. just your positive intention has a huge impact.

blessings,
sarah

[poRmawayncmop]

i hope so too!

[HoniSoniproca]

hiyas ameliejolie,
if i recall correctly, i asked the same question, but maybe not put as elequently as you. what i think and what i gathered is if you are focusing on your spiritual growth with intent twards sto, then you should be ok. but if you are doing that to feed your ego, or if it is with the intent of sts, then that may not be good (although good and bad is a duelistic point of view). but i also feel that if you are merely feeding people, and truely want to help them, and not merely doing that for ego, fame, or what have you, then you, still should be ok. also, if one knows about life, and understands what is going on, and has no fear of the changes that are coming or taking place, then one should be ok. but that is my opinion. but, i also have much to learn. i may be wrong in this idea, but its what i feel.

[anaisdannyxys]

ameliejolie, i am so in tune with what you are feeling right now. seeking the balance between the positions of service-to-others and service-to-self is so difficult in 3d where we cannot truly know the outcomes of our actions and attitudes. i daily struggle with purpose in that sense, in who to be open to, who to perhaps try to shake awake, who to leave sleeping. and how is any of that my place anyway? because i am driven to. while not being able to have a goal oriented purpose, i have my purpose nonetheless. life as a particle and a wave.

but the real work, as always, is upon the self. we've got the bodhisattva bug, you and i and likely so many others here with us. first off - everyone goes together! at least so we hope, even though all need to evolve in their own times. but still, it's a great trick if we can pull it off, and we still want to!

perhaps more important though is the bodhi creed that "i seek my own enlightenment for the enlightenment of the world." it is a mental universe, a universe of thought first, from which come action and manifestation in 3d. i often feel like a filter for such, that i seek so deeply to know the truths of this world that i may process them, balance them, find the love in them, and then release that back into our collective consciousness.

that these things are heartfelt issues to you at all is a sure sign you are on the right path. we must care for ourselves in selfish seeming fashion at times, just as at others we are called to give and give. but it is that we give everything consideration under the light of such questionings that reveals we are to purpose, as best we can, as awakening (and man are my spiritual feet all painful pins and needles with the process!), free-willed, infinite beings of light and love seeking primarily to be in service-to-others. intent is so vital, and you blessed one, have ample and appropriate intent.

so be well, and do well...

love, blessings, and abundance,

frank-o

[JulieSmithdccd]

i hate to be the wet blanket in this discussion, but i don't want everybody to get through to 4th density positive any more than i want to see the tulips bloom in january.

what would be the point?

[LeaderBiz]

lol just found this post and loved it. because it is such a deep enquiry. and such a question that has been resonating in my own heart, and it is clear from the posts so many others.

i definitely agree with the "boddhisattva bug" perspective. we need to heal ourselves/awaken ourselves/unleash ourselves however you want to put it. amelie you said you feel spiritual inertia, maybe spiritual inertia is your path. just do it with love. ra said (through david) radiate your own realization of oneness. so if you find yourself doing nothing, sitting on the couch for the next 4 years, do it with love.

however, if you are using the question of "nothing matters, it doesn't matter if i help an old lady across the street" as a diversion from that love, 4 years will go by and you won't ever get around to radiating that oneness. so i would say make sure you are doing everything with love, then you know no matter what you do, you are honoring the truth. that you are love.