[Ubgvuncd]

after i had a while to get used to the idea of ascension i thought that it made a lot of sense and put together a lot of the bits and pieces that have been floating around in my mind for years. then i got to thinking about the implications; maybe i no longer need to concern myself with making arrangements for "retirement". in 3 or 4 more years maybe i could just run up my credit card(s) in anticipation of not paying them off.
then i remembered the times i got fooled before. y2k is the one that leaps to mind; i had 47 2-liter bottles filled with water, about a month's supply of food and things like candles... batteries... i guess that was just being prudent, but i got fooled by the hype. i don't want to get fooled again, yet i totally want to keep my hopes up that i might be able to graduate from earth school finally and go on to the next thing.

i saw an interesting youtube video on the subject:



it is from desteni productions...

-markie

[Hodstcopter]

i heard y2k was pulled off by the goverment to throw us off course. i don't want to be fooled again....but now it seems for real this time. we may not know the exact time or date, but the exact season we do know what is suppose to happen in 2012. i probably wouldn't of believed it either had it not been for the way i was awakened

[Unwiseevove]

after i had a while to get used to the idea of ascension i thought that it made a lot of sense and put together a lot of the bits and pieces that have been floating around in my mind for years. then i got to thinking about the implications; maybe i no longer need to concern myself with making arrangements for "retirement". in 3 or 4 more years maybe i could just run up my credit card(s) in anticipation of not paying them off.
then i remembered the times i got fooled before. y2k is the one that leaps to mind; i had 47 2-liter bottles filled with water, about a month's supply of food and things like candles... batteries... i guess that was just being prudent, but i got fooled by the hype. i don't want to get fooled again, yet i totally want to keep my hopes up that i might be able to graduate from earth school finally and go on to the next thing.

i saw an interesting youtube video on the subject:

it is from desteni productions...

-markie[/size][/font]

i'd be very careful with their videos. at first i was watching them as well, but there is something not right about them. it seems like they are trying to mix some truth with crap to spread their message. honestly i was listening to them for awhile about a two week period. applied what they were talking about and it turned me into a mindless emotionless turd. if anything it seems their info just refutes any belief in existence whatsoever, that the real problem is we are trapped beings in a consciousness prison and we haven't realized it yet. according to them, nothing is left in existence, but humans. all et races are fake / fabricated. they have also claimed that they have removed the white light construct from existence and we will no longer return to the white light when we die. and they also explained how all ascended masters are programs in order to keep us in-line from realizing we are in a consciousness prison. i found interesting out of all the interviews this little girl did, she says the same thing with a different facial expression. and says the same thing over and over again, basically an easy form of brain washing. but i would not recommend or trust that material.

[Ubgvuncd]

thanks, verm, i like what you said "something not right about them"
(the videos from desteni productions).
i have only spent a couple hours watching them but something about them
just doesn't quite "ring true" to me somehow.

i put a link into the last post but it did not make it to the forum,
maybe i broke some rule that i was supposed to have read, and probably
did read and then forgot about... so i will include the url again here
(but in text form instead of as a hyperlink)
and if it is not allowed to do so i guess the proctor will delete it;
here is the exact youtube video i was talking about:

[moderator note: all links were channellers and unapproved sites and have been removed-markie's first post, however, had no link, so nothing was removed]]
-markie

[Unwiseevove]

glad you that you figured that out for yourself. i requested them to do meher baba or terrance mckenna, apparently their acting couldn't pull it off. blessings to you man. and don't be afraid, just stock up on simple stuff, get some water, extra canned goods just to be on the safe side. hey what would you do if the power in your area went out for a few days, that sure would come in handy!

[lasadeykar]

y2k was probably a corporate fabricated catastrophe getting people to buy protective security software in the same vein that valentines day is a corporate holiday getting people to buy chocolates and hallmark cards. i want to believe in 2012 and i want to spread the word but i don't want to appear as a quack. in my heart i do believe in it, especially when it comes from hopi indian chiefs, to me the only issue is whether it will be a sudden event or a gradual progression. i am fairly sure that we will see major changes on earth within our lifetime.

[Unwiseevove]

keep your arms and legs inside while on the ride

[sciectotacype17]

i hate to say it, but during these times, charlatans are all around, seeking to earn a buck on those unfortunate enough to have healthy skepticism and know better...

thats why i love this website and forum - free to all, with the emphasis of resonance (discernment).

hey what would you do if the power in your area went out for a few days, that sure would come in handy! while i cannot relate to being without power, our well ran dry the tuesday before america's thankgiving (nov. 20). so, as of today, we've (my fiance and her kids) been without running water in our household for three weeks. talk about adaptation and flexibility! but, after a few days, you'd be suprised how you'd do. i think of those poor souls in other parts of the world that don't have running water, or even access to clean water. at least we have that.

we rent and our landlord is being rather slow in getting a new well drilled (old doesn't meet code and current equipment won't fit down a 4" pipe). she's looking at $10k. i feel for her, considering the holidays and all. not to mention the fact that we are looking to move soon. but, in the end, if she wants to rent this place to anyone, it will need water and she'll have to deal with it eventually. in the meantime, i'll continue to be patient and adapt. i'll admit, i often take alot for granted until its gone...

these last few weeks have been tough - i've never been a fan of the holidays and winter season in general. but, with the new perspective gained from this spiritual education, i am able to handle things much easier than before i awakened.

as for being fooled again, i didn't buy into y2k, so i don't have anything to compare to. but, i am wholeheartedly accepting of our duty in the times to come; tomorrow and up through 12/21/2012 (and beyond). speaking from experience, this phenomenon is currently happening, albeit gradually (and accelerating), in those willing to usher in the dawn of ascension. i wouldn't claim to know what exactly is going to happen, or even when, but i do know this:

each of us are more powerful than we know. the phrase "co-create" is not to be taken lightly. none of us are going to wake up on that day and things be different - by then, many changes will have taken place and much will be different. i originally awakened through the concept of technological singularity. i apply the same principle to the waves of empathy passing through all souls - increasing, cleansing, bringing compassion and the christ consciousness to humanity once again. all we're doing is awakening to our potential...

there are millions of us right now, but really no "central" organization. but, thats ok. we are all coming together in spirit, and as we continue to "fire the grids" and prepare for the ultimate tomorrow, we won't need to look anywhere outside, but simply inside our hearts. let love guide each and every one of you during this holiday season and beyond. :d

art

[nvmrfgopyy]

all y2k aside, as far as being prepared for 2012 goes, it's sort of a win/win situation, ya know? the way you would prepare is doing what you feel is right and putting in as much time for service to others as you can (which i personally feel is synonymous with service to self). so if it's true, then you graduate. if it's not, you lead a happy and fulfilling life. positive energy is good for everyone -- in so very many ways.

and these desteni productions videos are strange, huh? they are obviously just jargon with a whole lot of catch phrases thrown in. it's interesting that they exist at all. but why? off the top of my head i can think of three motives: 1. this person is a little "funny" 2. they have an ulterior motive 3. both

i mean, there has been a lot of time put into this material, and it is sort of a specific parody (for lack of a better word). it's a good psychological tactic to mix in non-credible information of the same type with the truly credible information. in this way it can all be discredited. i believe, though, if this is the case with desteni productions, they didn't do a very good job. i'm just sayin'.

--meredith

[rJohutozsfds]

each of us are more powerful than we know. the phrase "co-create" is not to be taken lightly. all we're doing is awakening to our potential...
art

art, i totally agree with you there, buddy!

i was listening to a program a while ago, and they were talking about people on their deathbed. a nurse was saying how she hardly ever heard people talking about being sorry for doing things, but they were always talking about being sorry for things they hadn't done.

that got me thinking, so i turned to my spirit guide and asked, 'if i were to die right now; what would i be most sorry about?' the answer came back immediately, so strong and clear it nearly knocked me over. i would be sorry that i didn't realize how powerful i was.

i was truly grateful for that message, because most times i don't get clear answers like that, but it never stopped me from asking i've noticed that the best and clearest answers are always there immediately; almost before the question is even finished.

yes, art, each of us is indeed far more powerful than we know.

[Blolover11]

i took y2k so seriously that i sold my condo in the city and bought land in the country, which seriously inconvenienced my teenagers. some of the hippies there scoffed at me because, they said, they thought civilization was unraveling back in the 70's. i moved back to the city in the fall of 2000, partly due to a relationship and also better jobs here, but i never regretted my move.

i still go there 8 or 9 times a year and i have felt over the years that the y2k scare was a blessing in disguise. lately, i have a renewed sense of urgency about being ready and in fact i hope to move back there no later than 2009 or 2010.

i think i've been expecting this most all my life. ever since i was about 18 i have felt that something big was going to happen during my lifetime, sometime after the age of of 40 or so (i'm about to turn 50).

i remember when i was a kid of about 8, we had a sunday school class and the priest's wife read to us some passages about the end times, how there would be false prophets and strong deception and i kept pumping her for more specific information about how to make sure i was among those who know what's going on.

some scoffers say that there have always been those who were expecting the end of the world, but that is not true. the occasional nut case or odd cult does not compare with what is happening today. the number of people who are sensing something, and the number of different types of information sources about this, is truly large. there is an increasing sense of 'we' among humanity about this.

and it's not just about earth changes, either. people are waking up to deception and to the truth of the human condition, as movies like matrix show.

what's happening that is truly wonderful for me to behold is that the masses are more aware than the so-called leaders. (wonderful because humanity is normally such a dismal group of clueless followers!)
because the power elite funds and controls the major institutions of science and medicine and such, and because those institutions are inflexible and corrupt, they are going to be left spouting their old ideas to an increasingly uninterested public, who have long since moved on past their old ideas of big bang and darwinian evolution via mindless processes while the real thinking and discoveries will have been done by mavericks and learned by the interested public.

the rastafarians refer to the whole current structure of civilization as 'babylon.' the alternate title to bob marley's song 'one love' is 'people, get ready.' i find that prophetic. because that is how it's going to be. the people will move by common consensus without being told by leaders what to do.

[joe-salton]

while i cannot relate to being without power, our well ran dry the tuesday before america's thankgiving (nov. 20). so, as of today, we've (my fiance and her kids) been without running water in our household for three weeks. talk about adaptation and flexibility! but, after a few days, you'd be suprised how you'd do. i think of those poor souls in other parts of the world that don't have running water, or even access to clean water. at least we have that.

art

no running water? no electricity? yeah, us poor souls on the other side of the world have barrels full of rain/well/river water and sporadic (frequent) "lights off" events. it's strangely humbling, and forever frustrating when you're typing a message to divinecosmos message boards and "ohh! lights off! darn!"

-charles, pcv, ghana (ps: eating gooey food with your hands as a social norm is strangely enjoyable...)

[Unwiseevove]

all y2k aside, as far as being prepared for 2012 goes, it's sort of a win/win situation, ya know? the way you would prepare is doing what you feel is right and putting in as much time for service to others as you can (which i personally feel is synonymous with service to self). so if it's true, then you graduate. if it's not, you lead a happy and fulfilling life. positive energy is good for everyone -- in so very many ways.

and these desteni productions videos are strange, huh? they are obviously just jargon with a whole lot of catch phrases thrown in. it's interesting that they exist at all. but why? off the top of my head i can think of three motives: 1. this person is a little "funny" 2. they have an ulterior motive 3. both

i mean, there has been a lot of time put into this material, and it is sort of a specific parody (for lack of a better word). it's a good psychological tactic to mix in non-credible information of the same type with the truly credible information. in this way it can all be discredited. i believe, though, if this is the case with desteni productions, they didn't do a very good job. i'm just sayin'.

--meredith

their story is something like this. the little girl who does the videos was "possessed" by a "demon". this demon eventually stopped fighting with her and when it took over her body she apparently became "multi-dimensional" meaning she could switch seats with someone who is in the dimensions and they'd take over her body. as for her motives, i know this word gets tossed around alot, but i believe shes playing into this game of a negative entity and believing everything its showing her. but god knows what, just be warey of them. they mix truth with crap and with that small % of truth alot of people fall for the rest of the crap.

[sciectotacype17]

no running water? no electricity? yeah, us poor souls on the other side of the world have barrels full of rain/well/river water and sporadic (frequent) "lights off" events. it's strangely humbling, and forever frustrating when you're typing a message to divinecosmos message boards and "ohh! lights off! darn!"

-charles, pcv, ghana (ps: eating gooey food with your hands as a social norm is strangely enjoyable...)

charles,

hopefully i am reading your message correctly and that you weren't offended. i used the term "poor" rather ambigiously here; again, not meant to offend, but "sympathetic". here in the states we often think the whole world lives like we do, when that is surely not the case (nor should it be). unfortunately, i have not had the opportunity to live outside the us, so all is speculation on my part...

anyway, i liked your ps quote. there was another member living in africa, tsandi, whom we haven't heard back from in some time. i'm curious as to how the "consciousness rising" is spreading on that continent...

take care,

art

[rJohutozsfds]

going without electricity and running water is really not that big of a deal. there's the initial panic that sets in ("oh my god! the world is coming to an end! we're all gonna die!) then you go thru a period of frustration and anger, while you wait. this is the critical period, because it can last anywhere from a day up to a year.

waiting for it is the hardest part. then you go through the final stage of acceptance, and once you accept your situation and try to make the most of it, it will become almost like second nature after a while.

i've been there and i've spent close to half my life without it, so i'm speaking from experience. as soon as you get over your anger and frustration, you can function like normal again. it's important to know that, because as we get closer to the shift many of us may choose that very path as a catalyst.

[Nikkytas]

i was hooked on this site for a few days. their message is pretty crazy and they have hours of interviews and the girl leaves her body for days on end while "entities" type out the truth of reality. somehow she slipped by the ever watchful eyes of anu and the reptillians and has unfettered acces to the demonsions. she goes so far as leaving for days on end. while everyone from terrance mckenna to hitler stops by to chat. i tried thier technique for freedom for awhile and got really depressed and freaked out. it is like you cant stop because in truth you would never stop forgiving yourself. it is total crap and i feel sorry for them because i think most of them are kinda stuck and dont know what to do to stop.

[we thank jgalbra for an honest understanding of a site with obvious duplicity and negative tones-please email if you want the name of the site]

[Sarah Armstrong]

hi boomer

when i was 10 i read a book about a kangaroo called boomer anyway i sympathize with you, i've fallen into a horrible trap myself in my spiritual seeking and was brainwashed by a "false prophet" so i've had the same feelings popping up here, but more of the fear that divinecosmos should turn up being a dead-end too because i like it so much.

on the contrary i'm actually healing this traumatic wound properly for the first time, but the fear is always lurking since the experience was hellish...

life is a paradox and we must take the risk to break old patterns and dare to trust over and over again..

keep on trusting, but allow yourself to ask critical questions, that must be allowed, otherwise something is wrong.

liliane

[lorrieholdridge]

seems to me that the y2k thing is proof that directed energy from the collective conciousness works because we all wanted y2k to be a non-event.

[Sarah Armstrong]

hi boomer!

went into the archives and found this link www.rense.com recommended by david wilcock concerning the book and movie "the secret":d :d :d my stand-up-heart laughs my butt off!

intelligent and critical and a must-read for all wanting to stay clear-headed amidst the new-age fog!

liliane.

[Sarah Armstrong]

hello againthe direct link should be: www.rense.com/general75/secret.htmhave fun and get wiser simultaneously![excellent article liliane! discernment, wisdom, just great-moderator]