[sobre]

hi all

(funny thing, in swedish "alla" - "everybody", is pronounced like "allah" the islamic word for god...well since everybody's god...allah

to continue; in swedish "icke" means "not"...i'm not drawing any conclusions about the word "icke" and david "icke", just making an association with my gutfeeling which is my sense of unease when i come across his writings. i have not read very much but i feel disturbed....is there any reason for that? anybody else having that feeling or am i simply paranoid?

liliane

[ZXRamon]

trust me, he speaks of very similar things to david wilcock.
i am a subscriber to his site (don't worry, i've spent more money here!) and there is a video that is around four hours long of a live speaking gig.
david icke went non-stop, completely fascinating and very similar to what we learn from david wilcock.

just because icke talks about the illuminati being lizard men doesn't mean that it isn't true. there are so many shades of reality that there is room for his version too!

[icke is not recommended in our forum, simply because he does not promote personal power and knowledge, but kicks you into fear and all of the negative reactions the human form can experience....please read david wilcock's dc free e-books on this site if you haven't already-empower yourself]

[sobre]

hi

who wrote the comment below dazcox reply??? himself or the moderators??? it contradicts dazcox nand confirms my feelings.....confusing..........

suspiscious, inquisiting, conundrumsolving scorpio.

[sobre]

hi again

well now i've watched some videos on utube with david icke and my negative gutfeeling is even stronger. not that he's necessary all wrong, but he does not spread loving feelings, not to me anyway. he seems contemptous (i can recognize that because i know that feeling myself and i'm slowly noticing it fade away, what a relief!) and he acts if he is allknowing even if his mouth says he's not. his eyebrows are frowned most of the time and his eyes are not happy.

i can actually recognize myself from earlier years when i was "pissed off by all the stupid idiots destroying our world" and all the stupid idiots that didn't understand it...

not that you have some obligation to be happy, but david icke seems to focus on the negative and while uttering "look around, do you think this world is ruled by love? he has an accusing way of saying it that makes me feel guilty.

[icke is a resonator for some who tend towards fear; and as such, has questionable value to a positive spiritual forum, such as this - let's let him be - moderator]

i would say: if love wasn' t ruling this world it would not exist anymore.

goodnight, or goodmorning i should say, it's 04.20 am

excuse me my sun opp ascendant, mars konj uranus halfsquareplutotransits today. reflects some "get it out in the open, rebellious powerstruggleenergies i have at the moment. luckily you're all on a safe distance:d

transiten

[77rexulceme]

the money things kind of worries me about people intention, but i guess they need to make a living to somehow. i believe a lot of what is going on now everything, i am not really big on channelings to be honest. unless the message resonates with me in self aware words and such. your awareness is increasing and so is mine i think that is the first step. i know this path is obvisous, but it is so hard to block fear, but we are on the right road so i say keep trucking all the way through

[sobre]

hi allah =everybody, icke included

well now the syncs are exploading like a jackpot. am i allowed to tell about the negative ones on the forum? the positive opposties immediately occurs afterwards so i've no intention to spread fear, but this forum is the only place in the universe where i can get respons to my experiences.

feedback please

transiten working through black and white.

[ZXRamon]

david icke says we are immortal souls who have limitless potential. there is no fear mongering.

[avaiftBoara]

lol.

icke, i feel, is basically a good person, very passionate and sincere about what he does.

i don't agree with the statement that he doesn't promote personal power- as i have watched many of his lectures and know this to be untrue.

however.......
i do think its true that some of his work encourages a focus on the negative to the extent the reader can become just paranoid about so many of these things. there is good in life too!
i do not participate on the forum there any more for this reason, i did find that, although there are many wonderful people there, it does tend to focus very much on the negative, much cynicism and paranoia.

i think it is possible that icke may have been fed bits of information along the way, perhaps even unknowing to the people he met themselves (who may have been used/ manipulated). now, i can completely understand some of his emotions regarding the tales he has been told (involving child abuse) which are beyond your worst nightmares. it is only natural to be upset about something so horrific- and considering the weight of the information he has been given- he seems extremely calm and even forgiving. (he might not appear that way to those who do not know the horrific accounts he has been exposed to in person by the supposed victims).

as i said, he may have been fed bits of misinformation along the way, as this would appear a more clever weapon against his work.

ok, that being said, i'll leave the matter alone now.

i just wanted to point out that this man does in fact encourage personal power from what i know about him, although many of the followers of his work don't quite understand that part of his message.

i didn't get into his research because of the fear based element of it; i got into it simply because with moon conjunct pluto in the 9nth house and with 3 planets in the 8th, i cannot resist anything to do with mystery! also, his thoughts regarding how we can learn to think for ourselves again resonate well with me, and some of the words in one of his books felt like my own- thoughts which began at the age of 10 around the 1990's when his own turning point began.....which i know sounds weired but its as if i must have been tuning into some of these "frequencies". (honest truth).

anyway, i am thankful for those steps in my accelerated journey over the past year, as it eventually led me here after an acquaintance gave me the link to the first project camelot interview here.

[avaiftBoara]

"in your right hand is life.
in your left hand is death.
both are real. both exist in great proliferation all around us.
either one can be focused on, and become the sum total of what we see and experience in this reality.
we can prove that either one exists by our focus -- by how we interpret what we see."

[nizcreare]

the whole language thing is funny and there may be some hidden sort of connection between it all. and there probably is. everything said here already is great. i just want to add a quick note of comedy.

my wife is from bulgaria and in her language gus means ass, my good friend's name is gus, and i think his name has nordic roots, but he is far from an ass. he is a bit goofy but he is a really good person all around.

it is funny the way one word means one thing in one language and the opposite in another.

[FoetAgerhot46]

the information age. entertaining info is an industry. it's addictive mind candy. it plays on fear and hope.
....so does magick and astrology. these also tend to give "meaning" and some place in the cosmos. that's why they are still around.

for me, this has been an incredible 2 months. i moved after 16 years, am looking for a new job, stopped pot and found everything i've been into for 2 decades has been basically fraudulent.

...all the while i see folks making a nice living in carrying on about it.

think i still need a path tho. asatru!?

transiten, did you check that site out? that was enough for me.

are there folks over there into the vanir-aesir etc.?

[sobre]

hi

well then, wouldn't it be nice to invite icke to the forum then, instead of risking projecting our shadow onto him?

amelie, are you saying he was abused or his clients, or both?

he makes a good stand-up comedian i think, but it's easy to be put over to the 49% side sto doing stand-up....

liliane

[avaiftBoara]

hi

well then, wouldn't it be nice to invite icke to the forum then, instead of risking projecting our shadow onto him?

amelie, are you saying he was abused or his clients, or both?

he makes a good stand-up comedian i think, but it's easy to be put over to the 49% side sto doing stand-up....

liliane

what i'm saying is that people who informed him of certain things may have been under some sort of manipulation to do so, perhaps even without their conscious knowledge......of course, these are only my theories.

i like david icke as a person. i love the way he thinks and feel he is very passionate and sincere about making a difference in the world. he is very probably a wanderer too.....there was something he wrote recently in a newsletter about having this melancholia in early childhood; a feeling that things should be different somehow.

what i don't like is the paranoia/ fear/ cynicism of some of the people who are into conspiracy stuff.......i chose to focus as much as possible on the positive now, the negative stuff just doesn't do my health/ well-being any good. i shall always keep an open/ enquiring mind though.