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Old 11-14-2007, 06:54 PM   #1
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i've often wondered about the increasing amount of cases of add and adhd, and if they are related to any upcoming changes in a beneficial way? i have a nasty case adhd and i take adderal cr every morning. without the medication, it's very hard to focus on anything, except the things i thoroughly enjoy doing, such as playing sports, guitar, doing crossword puzzles or even reading the sports page in the newspaper.

add & adhd, to me, are beneficial to those who can intently focus on specific projects, while providing the instant release of "remembering" the trivial things in one's day. i've meditated without medication and have not seen a significant difference in the amount of focus or the feeling i receive during and after meditation. while taking adderal cr, i find it sometimes takes a little bit longer to clear my mind before i meditate because i can accurately remember the day's events, as opposed to being able to focus more easily when not taking adderal before i meditate.

what are your thoughts on add/adhd?
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:45 PM   #2
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have you read any of [please emil fiz for the author's] books on add/adhd? his latest one is titled [name], and in it, he presents a compelling and detailed analysis of how add/adhd research over the past 2 decades has been grossly biased in favor of the medical/pharmacological establishment, supporting rampant drug treatment.

thom likewise presents compelling recent research that strongly suggests -- if not outright proves -- that at least 50% of add/adhd cases involve a positive genetic trait that has historically -- over the past 60 thousand years or so -- has turned on in human beings prior to catastrophic challenges, and may be responsible, all or in part, for our historic survival as a species.

[his] main point is that many people with add/adhd are essentially hunters at heart, not farmers -- and therefore they (we) are people who live with a constant need to not stay settled and always be picking up stray information from the periphery. when cultivated with care and understood as a potentially immensely positive asset, [he] suggests that add/adhd is a tremendous gift that one can harness towards unlimited learning possibilities.

it's easy for me to consider [his] argument in light of 2012. the parallel's with his historical perspective seem pretty obvious.

[he] also provides detailed practices for harnessing add/adhd character traits and putting them to good use. in addition to just recognizing that add/adhd may in fact be a serious gift, he suggests lots of physical exercise, healthy diet, and -- my favorite part -- thinking creatively, like a hunter :d

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Old 01-25-2008, 06:12 PM   #3
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add and adhd are very complicated to diagnose. i have worked as a psychotherapist the last 18 years with nlp and hypnosis. my brother was diagnosed with adhd and the subject has always interested me.

these people think a lot quicker than others - the stream of internal mental images which goes through the unconscious mind are too much for the conscious mind to deal with. it can be slowed down sometimes. using peripheral vision, also internally seems to help.

some people have problems with left and right brain integration. i have an exercise that will help with that if you want to email me for private request.

a lot of people with this diagnosis are actually indigo children - have you considered this.
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:51 PM   #4
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i don't like the "new" diseases they keep "inventing."

not everyone learns by sitting still and behaving like a good little student.

education today wants all kids to sit still, be quiet and are forced to learn things in a cookie cutter fashion. it's like putting a square peg into a round hole.

instead of forcing medication on all the kids, more study is necessary in my opinion.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:03 PM   #5
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our grandson whom we were raising, was born in the early 1970's was diagnosed with adhd and prescribed ritalin which did seem to help him focus at school and display more self control however with the knowledge that i have learned recently about "indigo children", i believe that might have been a more accurate "diagnosis" if it had been available to the medical profession at that time. it would have explained many of the traits in a much more positive way. it might have made acceptance of some of the more agressive tendancies more understandable. thank heavens that this knowledge is coming out to help us understand these children and the roles that they will be playing in bringing in awareness to many.
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:13 PM   #6
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a lot of people with this diagnosis are actually indigo children - have you considered this.
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that's interesting to know, mike. my 11 year old daughter, who i have suspected for a while may well be an indigo child, was diagnosed with adhd when she was 6.

i had her on ritalin for a short period of time as her teachers were always complaining about her. although it did help her focus and it did change her behaviour, i did not like the idea of medicating her just so that she would be like everybody else and make the teacher's life easier and so i discontinued it after about six months.

although it takes a lot of patience to help her with her homework at times, i believe that she should be, must be, who she is meant to be and not a medicated conformist.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:00 AM   #7
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a lot of indigo children are very kinestetisk orientated. they do sort through a lot of information through feelings where we normally would use inner visualization or auditive sensing. the indigo needs lots of touching. children, no matter what kind, were not born to be medicated.
i think it is sickening to see what the us culture has come to escape if you can.
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:46 PM   #8
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i don't like the "new" diseases they keep "inventing."

not everyone learns by sitting still and behaving like a good little student.

education today wants all kids to sit still, be quiet and are forced to learn things in a cookie cutter fashion. it's like putting a square peg into a round hole.

instead of forcing medication on all the kids, more study is necessary in my opinion.
as a student myself, i couldn't agree more with this. i am one of those people who is not able to sit still and absorb mundane information for hours on end. unfortunately though this is what schools and universities expect from students. in my opinion it is possibly most pronounced in the uk where we are expected to learn in a remarkably robotic fashion and our children are the most tested in the world. it's hardly surprising that young people lose their enthusiasm for learning and don't feel like concentrating on learning something, they have simply done it so many times before and many (myself included) just can't cope with the monotony! as a result we just don't bother and do things that make us feel good. i am quite sensitive to vibrations and find that libraries generally give off bad vibes. when you think about this this isn't really surprising as they are usually full of intensely stressed and often fearful people. rather than focusing on the joy in learning, education is just geared towards the big tests and exams. it is a shame but thankfully it looks like it will be changing for the better very soon, hopefully before 2012.
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