[soyclocky]

heya folks, i havent been a part of this community very long, but i just had a couple questions that hopefully some of you could help me answer and/or understand a bit better. ive listened to a couple radio interviews with david and i have watched his interview with camelot. the part i am not understanding or accepting very well is this 3-way split that he describes. how does energy dictate this in each individual? how is this a fair divide? and what exactly happens to those people who remain on the earth, and the ones that go beneath the earth? it seems like its stressed to not be afraid of this time, but how can one not be afraid? can anyone honestly tell themselves "yep, im pure of heart" and truly believe it inside themselves? this is a very difficult concept to grasp, and yes, i am a little afraid. any type of advice or information would be greatly appreciated on my end.

chris

[soyclocky]

were these questions posted in an inappropriate thread? quite a few views but no replies heh. anyhow, i can move this if necessary...



chris

[Anakattawl]

chris,

welcome to the dc forum. your question is not an easy one to answer, but a great one for each of us to ask ourselves.

for me, no, my heart is not 100% pure. however, i can assure you that i am awakening to new possibilities, my learning has been rapid as i open my mind to new ideas, and most importantly of all, my heart has opened to forgiveness, empathy, and compassion. i usually don't watch interviews (prefer reading transcript), so i'm not familiar with david's last few and what was said.

i believe that the choices for "the split" were made before this incarnation. awhile back a member mentioned that we had to go through some 22 archetypes or something along those lines... so, i doubt the number of souls who have completed 21 and are on their last archetype is very large. in other words, you may be here for karmic cleansing, but chances are that you're here to be a lightworker/wayshower, otherwise you wouldn't be on this forum asking these questions.

the choice to ascend - by me, by members of this forum, by you, has already been made. you (mind/body/spirit complex) are now awakening to this potential, and likely are here to bring light to humanity in these times of change, through your own unique talents and abilties. simply being a conduit of light and love is enough to help your fellow man through the darkness and confusion, and that may be all you "signed up" to do...

fear and doubt are something we have all went through (and still go through) on our journey to reconnect with all, with one. but my dear friend, fear not, for you are a very wise soul and are now only just beginning to understand/remember where you came from and why you are here, now, at this special time.

none of us has the answers, but i think we all agree that together we can co-create a new world. once you get past the fear and ignorance and open your heart, you will begin to see the light of truth.

each of our journeys is unique and there are bound to be times of struggle and difficulty. do not fear though, for these struggles are spiritual lessons that will enable you to reconnect with your higher self and eventually the ultimate higher self that we are all a part of. once that connection is made, the answers will come more easily and you'll know what to do...

if i were to give you any advice, begin with forgiveness. forgive yourself and others (no matter what the circumstances). from there, you can begin to heal, empathize, and love. oh yeah, and a little meditation never hurts!

good luck,

art

[Herimoisige]

if you haven't yet read lighteyes post titled saturday's mediation received today, please do. hoping it will help in your understanding.

[Dvjkefdw]

hi leo1123, and welcome to the forum. i'm not sure what david said in the interviews you heard and saw, but i'll share my understanding, limited though it is.

the concept of a three-way split is articulated in the law of one material, where it says that if an individual is 51% or more dedicated to the welfare of others he or she qualifies for fourth-density positive. if an entity is 95% or more dedicated to service to self, he or she qualifies for fourth-density negative. and the "sinkhole of indifference" lies in between, and those in that region will apparently repeat third density elsewhere.

the reason that this is fair is that "third density is a choice." those who have chosen get to move on; those who haven't chosen get to try again. as to what exactly happens, i don't think anyone really knows, though we have guesses and hunches, some of which are spelled out in threads like the ones below.

other threads that address this subject: http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=10107 , http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=9893 , and http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=10244 , and if you use the search function you'll probably find more.

l/l,
twva

[neniajany]

sorry i am new myself here but i would try to explain some of the things i have read and understand, they could be 'distortions' in themlseves but i will try to explain as i understand it.

if you are afraid and fearful you are succumbing to the negative inclinations on this dimension aka service to self because you are only addressing the needs of your own self and not adressing equally the needs of yourself and others equally. those 'serving others' amdn meaning they love and care about other people more as well as themselves would progress into the 4th density positive. those who are serving themselves would also go to a 4th density sphere but it is the negative dimension. the ones that don't have enough inclination or choice to 'serve others' or 'serve self' essentially would be recycled or would experience third dimension/density again on this world (since i am not sure of there would be a 3rd density earth again after this one) on another world.

i think that whatever your inclination would be, you will be tested again and again by your higher self to see if you are trully on the path that you have chosen. also if everyone realizes that they have been through previous cataclysms in their previous life they would not be fearful of things to come because they would either transition into the next density directly (like stepping through a wormhole personally or through the planet) or indirectly (through death).

finally it is all about experience and choices in life, it is all about one experiencing itself and manifesting that in several densities. how to go about this is left to each person (free will which is the first 'distortion').

i hope this clarifies things for you.

[carlsberg21]

hi chris,
i only joined this forum on the 10th, so i don't know what i can offer you except my own perception. but basically, isn't that all anyone has? your not alone in your feelings or views. i don't remember the part of david's interview about a 3 way split in energy, but i think from what i've been studying about consciousness is that we direct the energy ourselves from our own consciousness or thoughts. wouldn't everyone be progressing on there own path subject to there own free will? i believe all consciousness will return to atonement eventually. it's a hard concept to wrap our brains around, but we all know time is an illusion, so maybe a part of ourselves is already there. i do worry about others 'left behind'. believe me i think about it alot, especially my loved ones including my animals!! i believe this universe is equal opportunity, it offers everyone the same opportunity, so when we are ready we'll still have ascension available to us. i hope i'm right on this or it would not be a very fair and loving universe, would it? sorry, that's the best i could do right now!

stay in the light!

marianne

[soyclocky]

you've all given me some really good information and/or advice. i think i have a pretty good picture now i suppose of what i am trying to understand. so, basically, 51%+ sto ascends to 4th density positive. 95%+sts ascends to 4th density negative. and the in between there remain in 3rd density until they are basically, ready to move on to their prospective density. i suppose that quite a bit more on the "fair" side. i am going to guess a 95%+ sts is the person running into a cafe with a bomb strapped to themselves in pursuit of 72 virgins. (thats just perception there) but yeah, i guess i am not as afraid, as i am uneasy and peculiar about it. im going to think on this alot more. and again, i cant thank you all enough for your help. much appreciated

chris

[Dvjkefdw]

i am going to guess a 95%+ sts is the person running into a cafe with a bomb strapped to themselves in pursuit of 72 virgins. (thats just perception there)

personally, i doubt that a suicide bomber would qualify for 4d negative. ra said that suicide necessitates much healing and rededication to 3d. ra did give examples of entities that have apparently already moved on to 4d negative: rasputin, genghis khan and taras bulba. the idea is to manipulate others to the benefit of self in this lifetime, not for some mythical 72 virgins.

[Pharmaciest]

personally, i doubt that a suicide bomber would qualify for 4d negative.

i think i would agree with that twva, at least for the most part.

i believe most of these people think they are performing a service for their country or their religion, so that would not qualify them for sts

[plaiskegizils]

this question has come up in a few different posts in different ways lately:

from ra:

b. who goes where?

question: as we enter the 4th density there will be a 3 way split. (b1, 151)

(1) harvestable entities of positive polarity will remain for 4th density experience on this planet

(2) harvestable entities of negative polarity going to another 4th density planet

(3) unharvestable entities going to another 3rd density planet.

is this correct? (b3, 89)

ra: this is correct but the positively oriented harvestable entities will remain in this planetary influence but not upon this plane. (b3, 89-90)

[BoattyGonm]

i think david said it well.... "and tell them all who and what they are" love !! find within yourself, "that love", then the unconditional "love"

you were born with it, everyone was, our experiences good/bad shape our expressions of love, but it is all love.


time to get on the love train my friends...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flzhs...eature=related

tell all your friends...

and then tell them to tell all of their friends...

and then tell them all who and what they are...

be well, be love.

david

more.....
from lovewithoutend.org

the mind has no power to change your life. that privilege belongs to the heart alone."

"love commands the universe. man only resorts to control when love is missing. in a world obsessed with control, it is difficult to find even a moment's peace."

"through judgment, a man reveals what he still needs to confront and to learn. through discernment, one reveals what he has mastered."

"the original sin was judgment...judgment is actually the only sin of which a pure and perfect child of god is capable."

"the long era of judgment has been man's darkest night, but that will end soon when the last judgment has been made. the last judgment will be the judgment against judgment itself."