[Overlord]

dear friends,

food for thought...though jesu is alive and well in 5/6 d. ;-)

the pagan christ

07/12/07 cbc-tv: doc zone - the pagan christ part_01/05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58jya...eature=related

07/12/07 cbc-tv: doc zone - the pagan christ part_02/05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlttm...eature=related

07/12/07 cbc-tv: doc zone - the pagan christ part_03/05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my97_...eature=related

07/12/07 cbc-tv: doc zone - the pagan christ part_04/05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izzcp...eature=related

07/12/07 cbc-tv: doc zone - the pagan christ part_05/05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftajy...eature=related

be well, be love.

david

so, what if it could be proven that jesus never existed? what if there was evidence that every word of the new testament -- the cornerstone of christianity -- is based on myth and metaphor?

based on tom harpur's national bestseller, the pagan christ examines these very questions. during his research, harpur discovered that the new testament is wholly based on egyptian mythology, that jesus christ never lived, and that -- indeed -- the text was always meant to be read allegorically. it was the founders of the church who duped the world into taking a literal approach to the scriptures. and, according to harpur, this was their fatal error -- and the very reason christianity is struggling today.

the mission of the pagan christ is not to accelerate christianity's slow demise, but to breath new life into its holy book and, in the process, bring the world a richer, more spiritual faith.

[snova]

this was also covered quite nicely in [email for movie name] it seems to make a lot of sense. maybe the real jesus lived and is now in 4th or 5th density but the mythic story created was more based on the sun and the egyptology? very interesting.

[CealialactBek]

it's interesting. in the book [please email for book and author], there galactic federation represntatives say, there in higher dimension, christ consciousness exists, it's a collective consciousness of the people who achieved the christ consciousness the shining golden white light.
in other words, they have ascended during the lifetime to the christ consciousness, when one reaches this realm, become able to sense the whole as 'i am' often ends up claim to be the reincarnatation of jesus christ.
i happened to meet some people who claim to be such such being through lightworkers.org.
there was a lady from new zealand who told me that she was a twinflame of arch angel michael and she herself was arch angel gabriel. arch gabriel is said to be the head of astral deimsion the angelic version, not the science version of ashtar command i guess. the interesting story that she shared was that jesus christ was twin and who died under the cross was his sister the twin. and she clames that she was the twin sister of the man jesus christ who continued on living carrying on the mission. but why do i feel headache repeating what she told me?
anyways, there is another lady who is my friend, i do like her, so i feel a bit bad about speaking about her but she strongly believes that she is the reincarnation of jesus christ.
i met 3 more people who claimes to be the reincarnation of jesus christ through the website and i also heard that there are people who believe that they are reincarnation of the 12 disciples of jesus christ through the website.
i once had a lucid dream about 3 most influential character from bible surprisingly currently at the dark side with pearcing psychic ability and the high rank, what was the number? when we think about the conflict between the dark and light, jesus christ's disciples in dark side can be pretty confusing though, if you've listened to the benjamin folford interview with david rockefeller, they have their reasons. and unfortunately, even if i'm against them, i myself find surface humans present quite creepy in what they choose. it's just sad.
i also have people believe and tell me that i'm the holy grail and reincarnation of luke from the bible. isn't it funny(with a bit of surprise) people speaking these things out in confidence?
i remember one thing about luke who is belived to have been the master of jesus christ in formal life before they reincarnated around 2000 years ago, which means it was all role play and we really dont' know how the life of these 13 people have become myth like now. maybe too early to say that it's myth. so it would be quite interesting to find out what really happened regarding all these things spoken by people.

i suggest to reach up to the akashic in higher dimension, to find the truth. and let me know what you find out.

love...
solbeena

[moderator note: many of solbeena's ideas differ quite a bit from what is said in the law of one books, which is what dw builds many of his theories on, so i do suggest if any of you out there have not read law of one, these books can be very helpful in developing your own ideas]

[CealialactBek]

dear moedrator,
i just repeated what others told me. my opinion is:
'it would be interesting to find out what really went on a couple of thousands years ago and let me know if any of the people out there find it out.'
thanks.
and merry christmas!!!

solbeena

[corsar-caribean]

i believe that the jesus story that we have is mostly myth. but i also believe that jesus existed. i don't see why these two things must be mutually exclusive.

for me, there have always been two christianities: the core version, which is what jesus said, advocated, and bore out through example and which i feel confident backing up with my own logic; and the common version, or what in younger days i termed "peasant christianity." (you lose the level contempt as you grow older, thank god)

the common version is the version that ignores jesus' message and focuses on the fireworks display of his miracles and the gory detail of his death in order to best transfix and control the unwary and easily impressed masses. people who are deep into the common version can be identified easily; they call themselves christians but act like new testament jews and would be the first to re-crucify jesus were he to show up.

people who are into the core version are less easily spotted: many of them pretend to be common christians and have learned to keep their mouths shut in church and at family gatherings, but they think deeply in ways that those around them are not ready for about their faith. others have simply decided that they don't need the training wheels of a social group to keep them on the right path to god and have pedaled off on their own. some even call themselves atheists.

these two varieties correspond to the two sides of the story we have inherited: the myth and the message. take away the myth, and the message is untouched. but people have difficulty seeing that. and who can blame them, after all, after the immense effort that has been put into convincing them that the myth and the message are the same thing over the centuries?

bill hicks keeps me sane: "a lot of christians wear crosses around their necks. do you think when jesus comes back he's gonna want to see a ***ing cross?"

aahh.