[gamblingstats]

hey guys - i'm beginning to awake, and now have the knowledge that i am, in fact, doing so.

i have already begun to experience what's called here "the gift of discernment" with people and energy fields in general. i can now feel out emotions and intentions. this has helped me grow as a person, and have much more love.

my question relates to presuppositions -

in dw's work with ra, most of the things that ra speaks of (that i've read) match up fine with the generally accepted tenets of christ-likeness. my problem is knowing for sure if these other beings are truly what they say they are, or are demons in disguise. i was raised to not believe spirits that come "as beings of light", because "god will speak directly to you if he does."

in addition to this, i've invited things unknowingly into my house, and was physically tormented at early ages. (chemical burns around my neck and back, sleep paralysis with visions, astral "beatings") i do not want to do this again.

please help me with insight and love, as i know that no one here willingly misleads anyone else.

thanks again!

[aaaaaaaabbbby]

yeah, discernment can be a tricky thing. i have found that personally what works for me might not necessarily work for someone else. its kind of a trial and error thing, and does require you to be in a constant state of awareness. being an empath, i found that i was quite easily manipulated and attracted "things" that i necessarily didnt want around me. if our kind moderator would allow there are good articles at montalk.net (or you can pm me and i will give you the site) on these subjects that you ask about.

i can give you an example of what has helped me. a lot of times we come into our physical life with past attachments through karma and and contracts we made in other lives, and also religous programming. so we might have attachments that we are not quite aware of. i started out by reciting this for about a week:
"i of unknown name, unknown origin and indeterminable age, release myself from this and all ancestral trails, reject all parental and ancestral teachings, save those that are in total accord with universal teachings, and i declare myself to be a totally free child of the universe."
this helps you in declaring the sovereign being that you are.

for me ive found that dark entities or those that dont have good intentions will appeal to your ego.
personally, i try to rely on my higher self for answers im seeking, i very rarely if ever try and communicate with other being for that purpose.
hope this helps!

namaste

[gamblingstats]

wow thanks for the link! :d

the basic concepts of empathy and living in a mind aware of its vibrational surroundings sounds right on.

my question is now about information regarding your higher-self. i've only seen information on this from decidedly negative sources (besides this site, which is decidedly positive). most of it comes from channelers and the like, which teach us about the concept of higher self.

does it not seem a bit un-humble or prideful to seek after trivial answers? i speak now from a point of truth, and only truth. the fact of the right-now is that i am only human, nothing more nothing less. however, being human is not a weak or uninformed place to be, as you can percieve, learn, love, heal, and protect with many physical and spiritual abilities. knowing this and my limitations is part of being human, so would seeking after my higher self be prideful? and pride of course, being simple self-deception?

[Pharmaciest]

i have already begun to experience what's called here "the gift of discernment" with people and energy fields in general. i can now feel out emotions and intentions. excellent! it's a lot like a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets, so use it often. one of the ways that works best for me is how i feel in the third chakra area. just notice how your gut feels about a situation, it will give you good guidance.

there are also several types of muscle testing that you can do to ask questions, if you need more guidance. i would even include the pendulum in this class, because it's your muscles that make it move. the caveat here is if you are not clear you will not get clear answers. so clarity is key!

the best way to get clear is by using focused intent. like the old saying 'ya gotta wanna'. you can also do things; perhaps to your body while focusing on your intent. this is very powerful, and incidentally it's why spells and rituals work. things that i found helpful include, pounding the chest over the thymus area, or drinking a glass of pure water, all the while focusing on your intent.

[plaiskegizils]

i used to have the empathy thing quite intensely, can't think now when it became less apparent, i suppose when i made an effort to get less stressed (jessup case book: stress increases psi factoring), and run on my own energy. also, i noticed it's harder to see something in someone else if it is too far away from your normal thought patterns. i.e. cruelty.

i suggest getting closer with crystals.

anyway, as for the negative entities. the best i can suggest since i don't have experience with them is to try forming a relationship with jesus/ the holy spirit. i read info once from a woman who claimed alien abduction and found that effective.

the law of one contact talked about rituals such as the banishing ritual of the lesser pentagram etc.

[Sheefeadalfuh]

wow thanks for the link! :d


does it not seem a bit un-humble or prideful to seek after trivial answers? i speak now from a point of truth, and only truth. the fact of the right-now is that i am only human, nothing more nothing less. however, being human is not a weak or uninformed place to be, as you can percieve, learn, love, heal, and protect with many physical and spiritual abilities. knowing this and my limitations is part of being human, so would seeking after my higher self be prideful? and pride of course, being simple self-deception?

seeking is neither prideful nor egotistical. seeking is a fundamental part of growth. as for the attitude you portray, it is a beneficial attitude to have which, if genuine, will save you great struggles both with negativity and with your own ego.

negative information and/or greetings typically appeal to a) the ego, b) disasters, or c) providing must/need statements. there is no must; there is no need. this is my own "mantra" to overcome such irritating whispers in the internal dialogue. as for you: do what feels right; nothing more and nothing less.

-charles

[sniskelsowwef]

"as for you: do what feels right; nothing more and nothing less."


great bottom line advice, which we should be taught from the earliest age possible.

[23tommy]

hi. i don't know if i'm awaking or not (certainly so as far as the system). i've been following this stuff for years on end. was a born again and since have steeped myself in the golden dawn's tradition - which is the storehouse for our western mysteries (i relish new science's findings reflecting tradition). i've also given much time to dreams, runes and the norse tradition.
i'm a five planet scorpio (if you know what that implies). yadda...

sin means missing the mark in arabic if i recall. but "there is no sin" (i use quotes because many a great thinker/explorer has said it). sure, hit your hand (or another's) and it hurts...

but here's a prime example; the ptb, the controlling elite. they've been a genocidal thorn in the flesh of humanity for how long now?
they've got the real esoteric knowledge. they've had it. now you'd think they'd "see the light" as they say. get me (as in cosmic pay back - if any - is a bitch)?
but that's apparently not the case. there is no sin. there is no ultimate judge saying that shooting someone (for the hell of it) is wrong. this is like a cat playing with it's mangled mouse.
some might now think of stages of awareness/evolution. but are you sure of this? where do you draw the line? what about "as above so below" (visa versa)!? angelic wars! achtung michael! heh.

but karma is what we think it is. a (programmed or self imposed) guilt trip.

further, due to astrological alignments (the validity and power of), some folks were born to raise hell. their higher self wants that, for that incarnation.
or, during the incarnational period, we manifest in a less than optimal alignment. oops.

so who's got real/comprehensive discernment? as you do a detox or the like you're killing things. how'd you like to be poisoned for simply being you?

more to the point perhaps is energy levels. it's these behaviors and addictions that lower one's energy levels that's the "problem". it keeps you in "low orbit" as robert monroe would say.

the more commonly seen counterpart is "violating another's will". all i can say is in this system, that's the norm.

the bottom line here i think is that we are a part of the it. that is, like it or not - we are being "dragged along" by it's agenda. so we'll eventually get out of this mess in any case.

i think the universe is bigger and badder than love, light and smiles. like hecate...

all this reveals how damn programmed we've been by religion. i added the line about the norse tradition for a reason. if you do some perusing into that you'll find that the norse vikings had pride and honor...while at the same time they did what they did. how could that be?
one example might be yggdrasil; the "norse" (it's actually older and celtic) world tree. now this tree system is lightyears away from the doctrines/theologies/correspondences of the kabbalistic tree!!
there's no groveling/invoking of archangels etc. there's none of this "trying to get back" syndrome. we are in midgard...deal with it. which reminds me of the very first line of the havamal (closest thing to a holy book to them); "have thine eyes about thee"(!). meaning, watch out! keep alert...

now on the converse i will acknowledge that as you raise frequency you tend to "be above" brutish/selfish/um, base orientations. but (even) here at these finer levels the "tests" are just so much more refined and difficult. unless you're silver spoon is polished everyday perhaps...

would like to share my experience on azurescen shrooms (the strongest in the world). as far as i could tell, it seemed my point of awareness/being merged with the it- or some (collective unconscious) field closer to it.
i was it and visa versa. i knew everything and could do anything....but this was just a state of knowing. my point of awareness was floating in a field of electric like light - like a lucid dream without a body. it was all pure thought. but more than this. kinda like, if you even just think it, it becomes real. so why bother...
all this was tied into the mayan 2012 date. i seemed to have projected to that and saw everything (or one) merge and increase in frequency.

in closing, i'd like to admit that i also think that we could live by the laws of phi and sacred geometry. myth bridges the gap in translation/understanding. but let's not forget the force that seems to be evil. hecate, yin, sat/an, loki, mercury, recursion, implosion, darkness...
i guess we're in a cosmic alchemical dance. a little good luck would be nice.
and it's probably no coincidence that the norse considered luck to be so important that they gave it a special name which related to...energy levels. hamingya.

oh, just a final rant on programming; say a person kills another for something (besides dope or kicks) wanted. it's murder. but then we've "gi's" who've killed countless humans....for (in reality) the wants of the (business) elites.
they replaced murder with other terms. just like with "taxes", "fines", yadda...

thanks for reading.

[Anteneprorid]

i noticed the syncronicity of the time of your post being 03:03!

one of the forces used by the dark is religious programming that admonishes us to close our minds to influences from outside our religious teachings or our own mind. naturally, anything that is based on fear would use such a method to protect itself. the dark cannot bear the light of enlightenment as it dissipates quickly in the illumination. it's great to hear of your emergence. you will find your discernment will develop exponentially as you become more and more exposed to alternate possibilities.

eventually you will be asking yourself how you could ever have been so blind. lol, as many here will tell you, i'm not one to engage in psychobabble or platitudinal obfuscation (my own term). i like to shoot straight from the hip. i think in the victorian terminology that would mean i am vulgar. i prefer crystal clear communication. others are different, and that's ok too. hmmm... christ-likeness... who would know that?:d i'm afraid i've had at least a couple dozen lives since that time and unfortunately they don't allow me to bring remembrance from one to the next. the bible is not much help either since they edited out most the christ material in favor of myth.

the book of revelations is often cited as being prophecy. it's not. it's a plan not a prediction. it's being carried out by the dark forces and their minions to the letter. i can tell you who is doing it but i'll leave that to you to discover. for those carrying out this insidious (inside o us) negativity, it's easy to find the plans.

for my own part, i have found that truth always has this quality of simplicity, the simpler it is, the more likely to be true. the more complicated it is, the more it has been suppressed by those forces who don't want you to know it.

so, you say you're awakening... congratulations! let me give you a couple of suggestions:
1. don't buy in to the fear that will inevitably arise. everything will be fine.
2. don't allow the anger to well up inside you from discovery of the truth, it can and will defeat you.
3. do trust your instinct, it is your intuition speaking to you.
4. go... toward... the... light...!:d

namaste,

james stephens

hey guys - i'm beginning to awake, and now have the knowledge that i am, in fact, doing so.

i have already begun to experience what's called here "the gift of discernment" with people and energy fields in general. i can now feel out emotions and intentions. this has helped me grow as a person, and have much more love.

my question relates to presuppositions -

in dw's work with ra, most of the things that ra speaks of (that i've read) match up fine with the generally accepted tenets of christ-likeness. my problem is knowing for sure if these other beings are truly what they say they are, or are demons in disguise. i was raised to not believe spirits that come "as beings of light", because "god will speak directly to you if he does."

in addition to this, i've invited things unknowingly into my house, and was physically tormented at early ages. (chemical burns around my neck and back, sleep paralysis with visions, astral "beatings") i do not want to do this again.

please help me with insight and love, as i know that no one here willingly misleads anyone else.

thanks again!

[IRYzouNv]

dear lori,
we all have unlimited divine assistance available to us simply for the asking. it has already been suggested to seek the help of crystals in the mineral kingdom.

there is also the support system of the plant kingdom available, and their respective devas, elementals and fairies. everything is energy, and everything vibrates. essential oils have theraupeutic uses because of their vibrational and chemical components.

there are some blends of essential oils that have been formulated specifically for protection. i won't show the links so i won't to violate the rules of the dc discussion list, but you can email me privately if you're interested.

healing love,
bev

[gamblingstats]

i'd like to take the time to thank everyone right now for all the wonderful posts and insights. i have just recently (i'm sure with the help of all your positive energy and prayers) come through and defeated a dark time in my own soul.

my entire life, since i could remember (1-2 years old), i've always had the feeling that someone very close to me died, a female, i believe, and it was my fault for not being strong enough to protect her. i would constantly berrate myself for my lack of strength, and this anger at myself was the central driver in most of my relationships. i had to beat myself until i was strong enough to protect someone, and even then - why did i deserve the gift of anyone else's love if i was so weak to begin with?

this all came pouring out in a torrent the night before last, and i feel as if for the first time in my life - i can say assuredly that there is no more darkness inside me. i can now relinquish myself wholely to the light without worries of "lying to myself" or "being too weak".

thank you so much for all your prayers and energy - we truly are moving deeper into the light, and growing into this can sometimes be painful. the key is to know that life, and light, truly does go on.

[plaiskegizils]

that's really nice.

[24MurinivaMak]

touching and heart felt ! keep trusting and believing in yourself ! i do !

huge hug with wings of rainbow light.... r

[23tommy]

i've always considered the "great work" as accepting who you are - in the face of others.
yes, we need to express our personal kundalini in some (sublimated perhaps) fashion. but we're all to hung up on performance and or status etc.
to simply be....
alas, the system is trying it's best to not allow that.