[enasseneiff]

mozart,
i had no idea about the portero/ blackwater connection; but it's not surprising given what i observed...
the fire came to within a 1/2 kilometer from my home but was ultimately protected by the huge air response to the fire in malibu. lafd also responded en masse to the santa clarita fire (where my girlfriend happens to live).
on the "news," a reporter covering the lake arrowhead fires interviewed the pilots of a superscooper and a giant neptune helicopter on why they seemed to be standing idly by as arrowhead burned. the pilots, seemingly affronted, stated that it is unsafe to fly "fire suppression forces" in winds over 40 mph... furthermore, the pilots stated that they wouldn't be able to "lift off" the lake with the weight of the water in toe as well as the wind.
hmmm... in the higher tax bracket neighborhood adjacent to mine, which had 70-85 mph santa anna winds blowing strong all day, fire suppression air strikes had no problem squelching the blaze in strategic areas & in defense of all structures (after the initial loss of the malibu presbeterian church & a few homes that went up in the first couple hours of the fire; that started on piuma 2 hours after the wind started).
i grew up in them thar hills; & we get fires every few years.... but come on!... 13 fires within 6 hours of the 1st strong santa anna of the year? well, power lines and the such could account for a couple of the fires... but 13?
even i, a lad with a healthy, active imagination, has a hard time "suspending my disbelief," so to speak, on this one.
anyways, to wrap up:
fire pilots in arrowhead swore they couldn't fly in "40 mph plus" winds... yet in malibu and surrounding areas (which had steady 65-80 mph winds) had air fire suppresion (neptune helicopters & pooper scoopers, er, uh superscoopers) the whole time!
i "gots" the video to prove it (we had the mandatory evacuations, but we also had the gas powered water pumps and the full size fire hoses, so we stayed... again). i watched those pilots perform some very heroic drops...we owe them our lives many times over. however, i only wish they let lower tax brackets have the same protection.
just goes to show the inequities inherent in our present day government.
thats my feeble two cents: peace...

[lomonel]

hey folks,


i wonder if anyone has any esoteric/metaphysical information regarding the fires in san diego?


are there any astrological aspects to it that anyone has seen?


as for my research on it, there is no doubt that it has been set by arsonists. the initial reports were that there were 13 (note that number) named fires that started simultaneously east of san diego. this event coincided with a major, multi-agency "fire drill" testing multi-agency responses in a major emergency that required a lot of mass evacuations in responses to a major event, and, lo, behold, there's the san diego fires that started just as the major testing period had ended.


originally the multi-agency "fire drill" was slated to happen in oregon and arizona; it is clear that the drill went as planned in both states, but the san diego fires were the perfect way to do real-time testing of multi-agency responses to a major event. search " topoff 4 " and " vigilant shield ".


on the day of the 911 event, there was a major, multi-agency simulation of a number of hijackings at the very same day as this seminal event; on the very same day in london, there was a major explosive event on one train at which the station was one of the number of stations being tested in a major multi-agency drill over there...then here we have the san diego fires happening just as the latest drill concluded (the drill concluded on the 20th; the san diego fires started on the 22nd...you draw your own conclusions).


the fires started with 13 named fires and it ended with 23 named fires (almost 22 and 23 is a big, important illoonynaughty number).


there's been a lot of reports of two/three dudes filming and taking pictures of fire stations in numerous places throughout san diego immediately prior to the start of the fires with most cases of the photographing dudes being so obvious that a station employee (usually a captain) would come walking out of the station and head to the photographing dudes, only to have them (two, three guys) quickly jump into a car/truck and speed away every single time.


the very start of all the fires was the one that started at potrero, the very place where that damnable b.. l.. a.. c.. w.. a.. t.. e.. r.. was set to buy 824 acres over the objections of the many, many citizens who had been very well-organized in their campaigns to stop that nasty war-based mercenary corporation from moving into their neighborhood. reverse 911 calls happened everywhere in san diego, except potrero, where not one reverse 911 call was made. not only that, fire engines never did show up until hours later in potrero; in every other neighborhood, fire engines were all over the place immediately, but not in potrero. a fire captain had stated that the fires were started with perfect timing at the perfect place for maximal damage, given the wind conditions that were being forecast; the fire captain had said that "the dude knew what he was doing". eyewitness reports were that there were teams of two/three dudes who were setting the fires and speeding off quickly. never mind those who had been arrested--they are pasties...the real arsonists got away with it and are being protected.


then on the news we have the mainstream news insinuating that these fires were "trrst" events started by their favorite bogeyman, "al kyda" (phonetic sp on purpose). yea, right. smoke 'n mirrors.


that's disaster capitalism at its finest right there. that nasty, mercenary corporation gets to have a chance to buy property at huge fire-sale discounts; a major, momentum-building, anti-mercenary-corporation political campaign centered in potrero was killed off; agencies got a chance to put their latest "fire drill" plans to the real-time testing; the the "al kyda" bogeyman gets blamed all over again and many other benefits to the elites from the fires that will be eventually revealed as time goes along.


i have no doubt that this event was conceived, planned and executed by covert elements within our so-called "government". tyranny at it's finest, too.


so how does one draw personal lessons/reflections from the san diego fires, i wonder. how does one apply aspects of this event to one's life? i'm trying to not be pizzed-off with this and to step back and look at the larger picture beyond the elites fark'n around with us people with such callousness.


but many people in san diego who lost their homes, animals, valuables and a few lives would understandably not be in positions to stand back and look at this even in neutral modes of emotions. i feel for them.


~mozart

[Hammaduersnes]

if we're looking at it that we are going through the process of ascending, and the earth is also, i guess you could kind of look at it at cleansing of old negative energies, to start anew. i know, i know, tell that to the people that lost homes and all.
[please email for the spiritualist and url]....claims that the area where the fires took place will be the new areas and cities of light, so they needed to go through this process.
if people were more in tune with their intuition and higher self, they might be able to circumvent such situations, but alas, not all folks are. calif. is known for its wildfires and earthquakes, if you are going to live there, you need to be prepared for the possibility. i live in virginia, but i dont naively think that nothing can happen here. i dont live in fear, but i mentally keep myself aware keep my intuitive feelers out there and prepared for whatever comes my way.
please dont misunderstand. i have great empathy for all the folks that suffered a great loss. i personally have friends that live there, and we were on pins and needles worried about them the whole time. they narrowly escaped having thier home consumed in the fire. they were a few of the lucky ones. but this isnt the first time they've experienced this. so they know every year, its a possibilty. but they choose to stay there.
i think with all that is going on with the ever changing energies we need to now more than ever, listen to our intuition. no sense in being angry, this kind of stuff will continue to happen. just step up to the plate and help our fellow man when these things occur.
as [another et group on the internet]have said, "knowledge protects, ignorance endangers".

[SteantyjetMaw]

mozart --

spot on, mate! thank you for your clear, flowing analysis and interpretation of this aspect of current events. alongside the many salient observations you make, it probably doesn't bear needing repeating that these fires came too close to david's comfort as well....

clearly, we're in the tightening grip of darkside "emergenc-ies" as well, and as cricket suggests, this will no doubt continue. (aside: i keep wondering when we're gonna hear from fulford next...and what his folks have to say....)

maybe it would be good to balance this heaviness with a dose of light...in the form of a recent personal dream:

i am standing outside, directly beneath a curtain raised human-height above the ground, extending across the horizon as far as the eye can see. poised there, i calmly take a step to the left, and look up to see a gloomy, ordinary looking sky with heavy cloud-cover. i then step to the right side of the raised curtain, where i am standing in a field of living, conscious light without end: divine light, self aware, wondrously warm, and, quite simply, perfect. registering the difference, i then step back to the left side of the curtain and look up again: same old, same old -- cloudy sky with a growing chance of rain.... i note in the dream that the curtain dividing these two realms is technically raised. i would have expected the world on the left (3d, perhaps?), to bear signs of the fact, and am somehwat puzzled that it doesn't appear to be. still, the world of light on the right is obviously real and present, and the curtain between it and the ordinary world i am used to is clearly raised.

to me, this dream helped me sense a little more deeply the feeling of the reality that things are a-shifting, and as we speak, on both sides of the line, so to speak -- 3d and 4d, and for both teams on the court, sts and sto. though i daily lament the unnecessary suffering created by our cousin's committed to the dark, i also find myself moved now -- pushed almost -- to voice whatever present signs of "the world on the right" breaking through that i can, not in order to avoid the negative existential reality of the world as it is now being construed, but to simply enhance the spiritual potential of things as they most profoundly are, regardless.

that said, thanks again for your pithy analysis, and please keep up the good work! i deeply appreciate knowing there are others here who smell a fish behind the scenes, and aren't afraid to call a spade a shovel.

fiz

[68AttendGem]

if we're looking at it that we are going through the process of ascending, and the earth is also, i guess you could kind of look at it at cleansing of old negative energies, to start anew. i know, i know, tell that to the people that lost homes and all.

i've had a gut feeling that the ca wildfires and hurricane katrina are part of mother earth and the "great cleansing" process, sort of a premonition or a wake-up call of future events. in both situations, there was ample time (in most cases) to find safe ground but some chose to stay behind.