[orgagsUpsepsy]

to my fellow seekers in "the dc collective" :d -

i have been pondering this thread for quite some time now, so hopefully the intended message will come across...

each of us has stumbled across this website and forum during our path to truth. we vary in almost every way imaginable, yet, are of "like mind". navigating the endless seas of information, we try to decipher what is true and what isn't. the easiest way to determine this is using our "internal" resonance filters. this can be difficult to do, for if one has a closed mind, then much of the material discussed here and elsewhere would then be filtered.

so, in my opinion, a significant part of awakening is opening our minds to "information". many on this forum have likened this to "remembering" and i totally agree. we aren't really discovering anything new, or "learning" so to speak, but rather, i believe we are each pre-programmed with infinite potential. it is only ourselves who create boundaries, limitations (ego?). as we awaken our mind/body/spirit complex, our consciousness is awakened to the inherent possibilities of all that is.

words such as perception and interpretation hold more importance in our daily lives as we integrate our mbs complex into wholeness. oneness. unity.

how we perceive and interpret information creates our reality (refer to lighteye's thread "the gate of god" - i personally found it very revealing). information that resonates, "rings true", is easy to accept and work with - it is not filtered by our "protective ego". but, does that mean that information that does not resonate isn't true? could it be that our limitations in our perceptions and poor abilities at interpreting make "true" information false? just because something doesn't "ring true" with you doesn't make it false for everyone... tolerance for interpretation is indeed in order.

these are seemingly simple questions that arose earlier today when i looked up a link referred to in the thread "the gate of god". i was a little disturbed because my interpretation of what i read was telling me i could either believe information such as the loo (much of which does resonate deeply within) or information from their website (again, much of which also resonated deeply). there was a sentence or two in there about believing information only from the ascended masters and not from channelled entities, etc. well, tough. i make the choice on what information i choose to believe in. don't tell me what to do pal. its my free will. don't tread on me. (visualize one of the earliest us flags with the 13 stripes and copperhead with this statement written on it).

who are they to tell me what to believe and what not to? shouldn't i trust my inner "resonance" filters? yes.

alot of this goes back to a fellow named aaron which posted some rather beautiful words on this forum. however, he also posted some disturbing things and from what i can gather, took an inflammatory stance against the moderators, etc. it didn't take long for him to be banned. but, one of his phrases still rings true deep inside my consciousness - "these words are self-aware".

so, in contemplating "sources" versus "information", i choose to focus on "words that are self-aware" - timeless truths that we can all remember, regardless of source. although i believe the bible is distorted and alot of information is left out, there are still many words which resonate with me.

i believe each source is a little distorted; there is no single "guide" to help us remember. i would agree with something david said though - the loo is by far and away one of the more complete and accurate sources of information - "words that are self-aware" - available to those truth-seekers (us) today. we each have the free will to accept information on this website and within the loo, or not.

in the end, truth is subjective and cannot be "accurately" communicated with words alone. think of the analogy "a picture is worth a thousand words". or how about this, try to describe love. the more one contemplates, the more involved the "objective description" will get, more words, etc. because of this, there is no substitute for experience.

if you want the truth, you can keep searching outside yourself and gain some tidbits here and there that resonate with you - "words that are self-aware". however, the truth exists within (said a million times by now, right?) and must be experienced to be "known".

lastly i wanted to reiterate a point about the upcoming shift we're all preparing for. can you not agree that changes are happening now? so, 2012 isn't some event we're preparing for, it is something we are experienceing here and now. open your mind, open your heart, and take a look inside. :d

love,

art

[CitsMoise17]

beautifully, clearly and simply stated, art! we've been on a very similar wavelength, it appears. not a thing to add--just wanted to thank you for your thread.

penny

[orgagsUpsepsy]

thanks penny! :d

part of the motivation/inspiration for writing this thread comes from the "fact" that there are so many of "us" out there (belonging to different "groups", etc.), that if for only one moment we could all come together and agree upon the similarities between us, we will get to "where we're going" much faster.

i get really bummed out when i read good material from another source only to come to the next paragraph and have this source telling me information from channelled sources such as the loo is invalid, etc. (as was the case in the link i perused this morning). a real bummer. i mean, gimme a break, who cares where the ideas came from, just that we can all agree upon the same basic things. again, "words that are self-aware".

i don't think any single person or any single source has it right, but collectively, and with tolerance for other interpretations, we can get pretty darn close...

one day we'll all come together... \

art

[Orefsmisits]

dear art & friends,

thanks for the kind words ;-) actually dw's site found me. i re-member it well. in my endless search of using the net for what i wanted to find out what i should "re-member and what was "important" i began "seeing" all types of sacred geo things in "my minds eye" and knew that something was on the way. dw's site then was "there and i "knew" that there was something to it.

i daily see things written at other sites which make me think, often quite deeply - just as it seems what i posted from "the gate of god" made you think deeply of "what's important to me..."

for what is important to me is important to you.

the 2 are one and the same.

and then i re-member...

we are one and the same.

there is no seperation. we are just living our lives seperate though together ;-)

think of the various cells in our body. all work together, yet all have different functions - just as we do.

that is the way everything that happens, at least it seems to me, is meant to be.

be well, be love.

david

[SteantyjetMaw]

art, light eye, all --

i wonder if many folks might be feeling a certain draw into "words that are self aware", as you suggest so thoughtfully, art. this surely resonates with me. as much as i appreciate my daily self-administered doses of "information reception" from web-surfin', i notice an equal degree of "information fatigue" that accompanies this regular intake. more to the point, beyond the exchange of ideas about self, world and others, i notice growing in me what seems to be a steadily emerging draw towards an exchange, via words, of our individual un-mediated presence across time and space.

pondering this growing longing together with you now, i pause to wonder out loud just what this might mean....

a phrase that comes to mind:

discovering -- and inspiring in each other -- a living language open to our shared presence in the felt unity of living being...

a possible scenario:

one person says something in such a way that i feel with my whole being. what they say is not so much about themselves or spirit or the cosmos -- as much as it is a potent volume of speach uttered from their self-aware place in conscious being. they could just be talking about buying coffee, i suppose, but in this scenario i am drawn to imagine, as they describe purchasing their double latte, they say it in such a way that i feel a sense of unmediated communion at the core of my being, a genuine, easy-to-feel vibration of authenticity that, like the fine sympathetic strings on a sitar, gently, lingeringly, ring true. we know what this feels like, of course -- it's what many of us already do. but what i'm hankering for i guess is a sense of this phenenon taking on truly telepathic proportions at the level of our mutual knowing and mutual being. call it 4d speech, maybe, i'm not quite sure....

last thought: yesterday i caught an image on the web of some guy levitating in front of the white house. i wondered to myself, "hm...this isn't the first time i've seen ordinary looking blokes levitating...is this a sign of 4d breaking through into our 4d experience?" similarly, i wonder if internet forums like these (4:44!) might be catalysts for human communication to learn to evolve into a fresh category of long-distance sympathetic telepathy, or some such thing, in which as you describe sipping that double americano, i pick up not just on what your words are saying, but i feel in my being the being of the person who uttered them to a seamless, ecstatic yet super-ordinary degree. while tasting the coffee your describing, of course.

maybe we're on the road to find out right here. who knows....

fiz

[Drysnyaty]

it seems there is something for everyone, in its time. part of the glory, i think, of the diversity within the one is in the multitude of paths that we all take.

there is so much out there, more so now that at any other time. a veritable smorgasbord of ideas, thoughts and ways to discover. and freedom for us to synthesize our own personal world views.

we all come into the world with a unique basic resonance pattern, and as we go through life we gradually distill and accrue our own unique 'take' on the universe in accordance with our basic resonance pattern. (law of attraction?)

i studied the works of a certain ascended master 'prophet' years ago, and found much that resonated. although i eventually came to the personal conclusion that the material was distorted through the matrix of the christian fundamentalist background of the channeler and consisted of much 'thou shalt nots' (which didn't resonate with me), i took much of personal value, and could and did see how this material [would] fit with the basic resonance pattern of many.

there's no one school of thought that will ever work for all of us, even the law of one. even up to the point of ascension. even amongst those who will graduate into 4d, there will be, notwithstanding a basic sto leaning they all share, a huge, varied panorama of differing takes on reality and schools of thought. familiarity with the law of one will certainly not be a prerequisite, just as the law of one student is certainly not guaranteed ascension at this juncture.

this is the richness of the creator, i believe, and is the way it was set up to be. maybe our journey through confusion and separateness is the great treasure of the experiencing of the creator, rather than any concept of achieving a destination. there is infinite diversity of seeming conflicting, weird, wacky and wonderful basic resonance patterns out there, creating infinite new and ever becoming thoughts, inspirations, and becoming as we mix.

and not one of these is any less valuable to the creator than any other. we are all similar in that we are unique; we all have that in common. perhaps, seemingly paradoxically, our individual uniqueness will only be enhanced as the social memory complex of earth continues to gel. maybe, as a planetary group, the bellwether is that our growing unconditional acceptance of our differences one to another is what allows us to come closer together towards oneness! it's all in the becoming..like the joy of watching an infant grow and develop, without wishing for them to grow up all at once!:d

e pluribus unum

[Drysnyaty]

i get really bummed out when i read good material from another source only to come to the next paragraph and have this source telling me information from channelled sources such as the loo is invalid, etc. (as was the case in the link i perused this morning). a real bummer. i mean, gimme a break, who cares where the ideas came from, just that we can all agree upon the same basic things. again, "words that are self-aware".


art

i do too, art, i've seen so much of this kind of thing in the world.

forgive me, i'm going to take another trip into my past. as a teenager, i dallied with a certain 'science/religion' which is now quite popular with some hollywood movie stars. a core teaching was that only they offered a chance of escape from a dwindling, chaotic prison-universe in which we are all devolving, not evolving, and their founder claimed to be the first being ever to have found a way out. this was something i was not supposed to find out yet, being a 'newbie', but i was there more as an investigator, and that's just what i did.

for years after i left, i was contacted by certain members, telling me i was doomed without them!

this was a place where you were free to think what you wanted, so long as what you wanted to think was what they wanted you to think.

but you know, art, there are people who cling truly, madly, deeply to this kind of thing, and as much as we feel we would like for them to break free of such encumbrances, they hear or see nothing else. they often are meeting some catalyst, true to their own needs, and this may be the best way for them to gain on the spiritual path.

on the other hand, there are those who may be so involved, yet are in need of a firm, helping hand up and out of a situation which is no longer valuable to them. and here, the call for help will be audible to discerning ears.

i guess what i'm trying to say (and sometimes it's hard for me to cut to the chase) is that there are always people who need these kinds of things, and that's why these things exist. as distasteful as these things may be to you or me, they are necessary for our collective becoming.

there are those who will not or cannot resonate with the law of one philosophy, for example, because there may be other things that they need to experience [first]. some of us need to have that angry, vengeful punishing god to appease, fear and worship. it's not that they are deluded, per se.

it's just what offers them the most direct experiencing available for dealing with their own shadow issues; and as such, offers something of vital value, something indispensible.

the first book i ever read on things metaphysical was 'edgar cayce on atlantis'. i remember it on my father's bookshelf from my infancy. throughout all of my life's journeys, the cayce story was always there for me, its core message resonating as truth, its wisdom always shining like a beacon, serving as a template of personal truth against which to measure all else i encountered and studied.

now, here i find myself at the threshold of the law of one. i now know that all my journeys, all my dalliances, and so on have led me here to this latest stage of my own becoming. every stage so far has left me with another bit of wisdom to fit into the puzzle.

and the most amazing thing is that when i looked at all the pieces and put together what i had so far, it looked a lot like the law of one, and david's life story and works. and that's when i found this website!

it was during a period of much personal disillusion, a dark night of the soul. i had returned to my first 'love', edgar cayce, looking for grounding, and 'googled' edgar cayce on the internet. wham...david wilcock!

after all these years, i feel that this is what i was seeking, knowing it to be out there, somewhere, as i felt it to be within me. i wanted to find that which was in me -- mirrored out there, in the hearts and minds of others.

now, i've had this feeling before, so i have no illusions that the seeking has ended. i still have much to learn about myself, and a lot of growing up to do! there's little absolute knowable truth here in 3d (besides love and taxes ), just working facsimiles.

i have learned so much from communing with all of you good people here on david's forums, and to thoughtful, caring folk like you, art, and you, david, i will forever be grateful.

yours in service, mark

[nvideoe]

i too, have seen much in the way of dissension among various channelers. it is unfortunate and does much to damage the credibility of channeled material in general.

because we live in a 3d duality, in a multidimensional universe, all communications are effected, by the law of confusion. because we all have differing needs regarding our soul growth, what seems to be truth for one may be false for another. i recently read something that put forth the idea that all things are truth and all things are false. the secret is in discernment. we have to each discern what strikes a cord with our own experience and belief systems.

it's true that there has always been those who attempt to control others through the state supported belief systems. that includes all formal religious orders and all forms of government. this is the nature of duality. the truth does not exist outside of us, that is why it is so difficult to find. the truth is found within. all external catalyst are provided as assistance to help us find the truth within.

until we finally... really... truthfully... accept that we are indeed god, that we are indeed one, and find that deep connection within us that sets us free from the 3d illusion, we will continue the search for truth and never seem to find it. look! it's over there! look! it's over here! he knows where it is! she knows where it is! they have it! we have it! it doesn't exist! all of us have it, and it is as unique as the individual possessing it. all we need do is look within. for each the path to ascension is different, unique. you must remember we have lived thousands and thousands of lives. our qualifications for ascension is not solely dependent on this single life. it may be that we only had one small thing to learn in order to ascend. we may not have had anything to learn! we may just be here to assist others to awaken. all things are forgiven in this 3d duality. it's merely a school.

you are god. just look within yourself and find that little spark of light, nurture it, love it, understand it, let it grow until it encompasses everything around it. share it with everyone and everything you can. that is service to others.

time is running out. the time for worrying about violating someone else's free will is over. the time of ascension is upon us. share your light and your truth as you understand it with everyone. it may just be that you provide the stimulus that triggers the awakening of that individual. don't worry if they don't accept it, or don't even except you. time is running out.:d