[Almolfuncomma]

i recently got information on the internet about the school of metaphysics because on my way home from college i seen it and it was only a few blocks away. i guess i was lucky. i got the number from a website on the internet, but i never called i was to busy, but when i went to school the following week they were there trying to give people information it was pretty cool. i talked to the people and i signed a sheet and got a phamplet. they asked me if i have seen the movie the secret i told them the truth which was no. i remember in one of david's blog i think he said he disliked some part of the movie the secret i forgot exactly what it was, i was wondering if anyone would know or remember which blog that was in? so i can ask question if i do attend this school

[ENCOSEARRALIA]

i recently got information on the internet about the school of metaphysics because on my way home from college i seen it and it was only a few blocks away. i guess i was lucky. i got the number from a website on the internet, but i never called i was to busy, but when i went to school the following week they were there trying to give people information it was pretty cool. i talked to the people and i signed a sheet and got a phamplet. they asked me if i have seen the movie the secret i told them the truth which was no. i remember in one of david's blog i think he said he disliked some part of the movie the secret i forgot exactly what it was, i was wondering if anyone would know or remember which blog that was in? so i can ask question if i do attend this school

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hi, under.

part of your answer is contained in a previous post. (do a search on the divinecomos' search function -- where i found this sample among many...)

comments on the "secret" from "derviche" regarding a utube video of david.

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david said a phrase that really hit it, a recipe for "self-indulgence". now that brought clarity as to why i feel rejection towards that book! yes of course positive thinking is essential for a positive life, and to attract positive energy, but there is a difference between that and trying to attract all these things material, asap, as if that where the source of happiness for humankind. houses, and money, and relationships, and more things...bottom line...desire is the source of all pain....buddha said

this morning when i heard this friend passionately recommend the book to someone else, i had to say that phrase .... self-indulgence, but everyone looked at me in shock or as if i had pronounced a heresy..

it is good to know i am not the only one that thinks the above. thank you very much
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derviche

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a "metaphysical" school??? hmm, right! ... step into my parlor said the spider to the fly? "under", take off your blinders, you have the bestest, baddest, metaphysical school right here on divinecosmos! my gratiutious advice is to stick to the yellow brick road rather than spinning your wheels zooming down unknown bunny trail -- a trip that might find you ending up tumbled end over end into a negative-polarity snake pit!

of course, dear buddy, it's your freewill life and if you want to work alongside genkis kahn as an orion shipping clerk, well, somebody's got to do it.

billousbobbybutterball

[Drysnyaty]

i personally gathered that the movie, the secret, while informing us of the powers of mind that we all have in regards to positively transforming our lives, failed a little in the realm of distinguishing between the wants of the ego and the needs of our lives to be integrated with the more spiritually discerned callings.

today, i saw a news photo/story of a couple of ladies lighting incense and chanting for victory for their home team, in a kind of religious fervor!

instead of chanting for separation, i would prefer to meditate upon the common thread of life that underlies us all, and to formulate my own apprehension of what is real by considering what the law of one has taught me; that any separation of purpose between any of us is merely the stuff of and the result of living in a world of illusion.

as i re-dedicate myself daily to my spiritual needs for progressing, the concept of oneness continuously gives me cause to look at life's misunderstandings as nothing more than a failure to apprehend and see life as one of common purpose; and that any thought of relative difference between my own personal goals and those of another is purely illusory.

as you consider the implications of the law of one on a daily basis, you find that you are less embroiled in issues of transient, relative meaning here in 3d, and begin to live your life more dedicated to willing/shining forth the common welfare of us all, discerning that all issues of competition and strife and difference of opinion are strictly illusory, in terms of what's really important.

really, it seems that we are all the same lifeform, although each having to deal with a different set of challenges. and herein lies the root of our perceived separateness from each other. if you have been able to comprehend the concept of reincarnation, it's not a great leap to contemplate the concept of only one soul, having a multitude, indeed an infinity of viewpoint/experience. extend this concept across the seven densities, and you suddenly apprehend all of life and existance as yourself.

suddenly, the concept of 'go team go', as in my team against your team, doesn't pack the same 'oomph' as it used to. the slender ego's wants can be seen to be perhaps of a transient or frivolous nature. perhaps to dedicate your energy to 'manifesting' a million dollars, if not in line with what you are here to learn, could ruin or overwrite or 'outscream' a particular lesson your higher self is asking you to suss out! for any one of us potentially, we could need to grow in this life by learning to share our meager resources in a finer manner, and the dwelling upon or the granting of the desires of the ego could conceivably de-rail a whole life's purpose.

better to learn to listen to your own inner guidance. i would really, highly recommend reading and contemplating the law of one material made available on this website in order to gain a higher spiritual vantage point in this regard. i would suggest making it a point of study for those who wish to transcend the confusion of human existence.

keep going back! and don't hesitate to post your questions and insights on this forum. this community seeks to serve.

-mark

[Almolfuncomma]

hey billybob, so what you are saying is don't trust this school of metaphysics? i know i have free will, but i wanted this school to possibly clear my mind get a experience in it instead of clinging to mass information on the internet. are you trying to say it might be a scam? maybe it might help me in the right path. david do you have any input on this?

[xquFzpNw]

i am by no means an expert on this subject but felt compelled to chime in. i too have thought about how best to train so i may better connect with my higher self and understand/do all the wonderful things i set out to accomplish in this life.

there's actually a psychic school really close to where i live, and i even attended a couple of workshops there. i grew up with a mother who read quite a bit of spiritual stuff and as a result have spent plenty of time in various "new age" shops.

none of this gives me any credential or real authority on the matter but i can at least share my own experiences.

i've come to find a lot of mixed polarity at these places. particularly the psychic school. they don't turn anyone away, not that they should, but upon walking in and talking to people you really get a sense that the place isn't nearly as positive as it tried to make itself seem.

metaphysical school is a hard one...you see, for me, i would wan't an accredited university if i was going to subscribe to a mandated curriculum. problem is, to be accredited those schools really have to go to great lengths in appeasing the public at large which doesn't subscribe to a lot of the ideas and concepts put forth in places like this...

it actually took a lot of lurking on these forums before i felt safe enough to start participating. they've (david and the moderators) gone to great lengths to ensure the integrity here and i'm sure are constantly making hard judgment calls on the material being put through.

i personally approach all groups and people within the new age community with a lot of caution. i've realized the insurmountable amount of resources here and find my plate completely full.

not that you should just start right here. if you feel a certain pull to this school, by all means, investigate it. thats how i've come here. but do it with caution.

perhaps it would be a good idea to take the time to read the material that serves as their foundation and seeing if it resonates with you. and since you are here on these forums it wouldn't hurt to read the outline of the law of one material (it's pretty quick):

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...d=23&itemid=36

and make sure to check out david's book recommendations:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.ph...per&itemid=108

really get a sense of who you are and what calls to you.

i actually have a personal little litmus test i use to validate if i can trust something or not. i always make sure my free will is being maintained. if i feel someone/something is infringing on my ability to make my own informed decisions, then i trust it a lot less. thats just what i use and according to the law of one, free will is one of the biggest laws there is. could be different for you though...

i can really relate as i have been seeking guidance for some time. i guess i've just concluded that for myself, my best teacher will be myself.

[uncoodync]

i recently got information on the internet about the school of metaphysics

while this type of school is not for everyone, i would definitely recommend considering it. it is in the interaction with other people of like mind that i consider having received my greatest learning/teaching. as ra said in session 83; "... that effect which we have learned to call the doubling effect. those of like mind which together seek shall far more surely find."

i remember in one of david's blog i think he said he disliked some part of the movie the secret

the secret is a great book/movie, but it is lacking in a few areas, simply because it is an incomplete picture. it does not mention any of the "action" steps that need to be taken, and it does kinda make it sound like the universe is some giant cosmic vending machine. however, i always feel so empowered when i watch it, that i know it can't be all bad.

[ENCOSEARRALIA]

hey billybob, so what you are saying is don't trust this school of metaphysics? i know i have free will, but i wanted this school to possibly clear my mind get a experience in it instead of clinging to mass information on the internet. are you trying to say it might be a scam? maybe it might help me in the right path. david do you have any input on this?

dear mr. understanding,

after reading some of your previous posts i can better appreciate your frustration and your driving sense of urgency to know all there is. now!

i don't know if this "school of metaphysics" would be considered a scam or not since that would depend on their delivering promises -- if any -- to fulfill your expectations. the term "metaphysics" is rather amorphous since it merely implies some type of philosophical reality "transcending the realm of physics". beyond mere testimonials there is no source of formal "accrediting" or assessing such a self-proclaimed school. i would suspect that this school may have been created to catch the publicity wave generated by "the secret" and then to surf it.

in a posting you expressed fear that many psychic-oriented sites were merely money magnets, and yes, that would be one concern. however, regarding david wilcock, this divine cosmos site and those volunteers involved in supporting it, that worry about the money thing is simply not the case.

when i was your age edgar cayce had been gone only a short time before, and of course i had no premonition of the virtual informational tsunami that would be come swarming across cyberspace in sixty years time -- much less that edgar would be coming back -- but this time on steroids as david wilcock.

hey! feel blessed, not cursed!

suggestions

i don't know if you are receiving postings as email or from going on site. ( i would suggest using the site) explore the massive amounts of material available. do searches on the archives both at divine cosmos and at llresearch. study the ra material study guide. be assured in that the ra channelings are considered the most bullet-proof psychic info ever.

concerning your question of whether or not this site is "new age" etc. is a loaded one. one might answer, "yes and no". i prefer the term, "new thought" in that it at least avoids some of the baggage associated with the very broad and all-encompassing downside kookiness of the "new age" label.

on a more free-swinging level i think that you would find some very helpful insights through reading ken carey's "the third millenium". ( i have mentioned this work many times before as being a sort of romanticised version of the ra material. however, it deserves several readings -- a page at a time to really absorb it. another vital read/study is carla's "wanderer's handbook". this work disects many problems spiritual seekers' encounter in their journey ... like the rough times you are going through. )

keep in mind this truism: you are right where you are supposed to be at this time...hey! don't waste energy in lusting after psychic powers. keep in mind that such can be a negative curse instead of a positive blessing, and which developed out of season can seriously interfere with your natural spiritual unfoldment. meditate, don't manipulate.

okay. consider the above as an introduction to metaphysics 101. no charge

if you feel attracted to this group then go ahead and take a careful look. perhaps there is someone you are supposed to meet. ( but judging from young david's strange, tumultuous romantic encounters ..... be careful!)

billyplatototle

ps typos are not accidental but are purposely included for their psychological impacd.

[nvideoe]

lol bbbb!

first of all let me urge you to ask yourself the question "what would be the purpose?"

what would you hope to gain from such a place?

most information of this type is highly transient in nature and a great portion of it is pure bs. early on on in the 70's i had an intense desire to attend atlantic university in virginia beach. it was originally a metaphysical university set up by the a.r.e. and edgar cayce foundation. i too, had an insatiable thirst for that type of knowledge. although i never was able to afford to go, i did continue to study many different areas of metaphysics, most notably astrology. i became so intensely involved in those studies that i became unable to relate to those around me (my family) without reference to it, and began to think i was a nutter. in my effort to be of service to others, i withdrew from those endeavors and eventually lost my way again. i then went to the opposite extreme and tried to be a good republican. you know, greed, power, nationalism, pride, etc. unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) that never worked out for me either (my higher self being in the drivers seat).

let me tell you what i do know. the very highest seat of learning, the throne of the dean so to speak, exists right there within you. the ultimate source of all knowledge also lies there within you. the road to both places runs up your spine, and the vehicle to get there is meditation. seek and you shall find, knock and it will be opened to you. i could not put it any simpler than that. all our life and all our experiences are merely to bring us to that point.

so the question is "what is right for you?" is there something there that you hope to gain, other than a mere collecting of information, rather than a deepening of understanding? understanding is seldom assisted by the addition of facts, in fact that frequently adds to the confusion and consumes your time deciding what to keep and what to throw away.

my personal thoughts are that you can probably find everything you need to know right here at divine cosmos and l&l research within the law of one materials.

consider carefully your next step, it's really a matter of what you want. there are no guru's for your inner self, other than your inner self.

[SOgLak]

that's the university of metaphysics. i was considering this. from what i saw of their curriculum, you can learn the same stuff by perusing amazon. i doubt they even have a clue about the findings you can read about here....applying it all is the challenge.
it seems pretty good tho, without comparisons. i gather the main task is the dissertation. again tho, with the internet, you could do this compilation on your own, on anything.

i'm actually now in a [specific esoteric] order. so much of the material seems to be nothing more than "make work" (on comparative symbology). fun to ponder but it's hard to find the time to really unwind and tune into the astral....and really, no books help with this, imo. they just introduce you to the concepts/phenomena.....

and the secret? that's shameful marketing, period. ego and greed may be a bit off. folks are looking for security.

the secret aside, i keep saying that all these new findings makes it seem we're on the threshold of a breakthough. this in conjuction with the techniques of "clicking your amygdala forward" - that is, operating from your frotal lobes and not reptilian brain etc!

i want an epiphany like neo's!

>>>>>>

i'll just throw this in;

any obe'ers or astral projectors here?

today, it seems there are two schools. there is no actual second subtle body which separates from the physical. you just go through this, symbolic imagery, on a mental level... as you are "projecting" into a mental realm.
and the otherside of course says there is a tangible separation. i think r. monroe is of this school.

don't know if this dicotomy is due to perception and semantics or something else. it apparently comes out to the same thing tho; anecdotal word salad.

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