[Flistelib]

so from many places i have read that seemed to be of authentic origin it seems that jesus or jeshua was the person who completed his being with the highest love and existed in this state as an example. in the edgar cayce essential i have it says that he was the most ascended and at the "height of humanitys halo". i really like some of the biblical texts with his words because he speaks very clearly most of the time and definitely knows what he is talking about.

seeing how is was an example (at least in my point of view) of what we shall eventually become i think this is in resonance with the law of one material and what we should as souls strive to exist as in material + more.

so to get to the point i was wondering if anyone has come across a book that has a collection that is credible of his teachings and maybe life. i have tried to dig up a lot of his work even reading books on enoch the prophet and what not but i am trying to find something that has all his correct teachings even including the stuff that was mistranslated or taken out of the bible.

i am a huge empath and i learn from others personal experiences taking bits and pieces and filtering them to what i see fit as healthy and non healthy as means to exist as. i feel finding a good amount about him and his teachings would probably shed some light on other things i may have missed even though i have down what he says quite well.

cayce said the highest form we should strive for is god. and when they questioned him about who god was he said god was love (in a higher meaning). when they asked about jesus cayce said he was the most tuned and first being that was of god (love). mentioning even as a baby they would give his cloths to other kids and it would heal them.

the question here is, anyone know of a collection of works by this man that were non biased and of authentic origin?

thank you for your presence, codee. :d

[Intockatt]

hi! perhaps one of the books you may be looking for, and i don't know if you've read it already, is the gospel of thomas. all it is, is a collection of the sayings of jesus. it was never put in the bible, but it is thought to be the source upon which the gospels in the bible were partially derived from.

there's a great site which holds archives of most all the worlds sacred texts, free to read online. that may be the easiest way to find it, since i think it's hard to come by in physical book form. here's a link to the gospel of thomas on that site:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm

i hope that helps!
- john

[ENCOSEARRALIA]

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so to get to the point i was wondering if anyone has come across a book that has a collection that is credible of his teachings and maybe life. i have tried to dig up a lot of his work even reading books on enoch the prophet and what not but i am trying to find something that has all his correct teachings even including the stuff that was mistranslated or taken out of the bible.

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the question here is, anyone know of a collection of works by this man that were non biased and of authentic origin?

thank you for your presence, codee. :d

### hi, spiraling one

i don't think you can find what you are after ... i.e., guaranteed, honest-to-goodness true words, etc. of jesus. there is simply no universally agreed-on consensus. (i assume you are looking for more than the so-called red-lettered edition bibles having the sayings of jesus emphasized in red print)

the "jesus seminar" was/is a group of theologians gathered to the task of determining just what saying of jesus in the bible are indeed true-blue examples. i think they finally agreed on some eighteen of them as being for reals genuine. the many other sayings and attributables followed downhill on a sliding scale of assurancy.

then there are the gnostic documents such as the the "gospel according to thomas". ( it seems to me that cacye remarked on gat favorably ... but then i have a hard time recalling my own name when i address myself in the morning mirror.)

assuming that you are a christian you might circumvent your frustration by getting and pondering a collection of inspiring quotations from notable christians such as compiled by john blanchard in his book, "gathered gold".

for some interesting insights be sure to do a "jesus" search on llresearch.org.

my best, billybobbibliophile

[DuePew]

i highly recommend a course in miracles.

[ENGINESSQ]

dear spiral,
you may want to see [pease email nina for book name and author].
fr bk cover review by richard drummond, comparative religion scholar:
"this book ...meets a genuine academic and spiritual need in this generation.most people, in or out of the christian church, do not know that edgar cayce's treatment of this theme was in fact a reintroduction of an important theological empahsis of early jewish christianity. sanderfur's book has the particular merit of collating the data furnised by edgar cayce, the distinquished protestant mystic and clairvoyant of virginia beach, with the conclusions of the best recent academic scholarship, both biblical and historical. i warmly recommend it."
edgar cayce reading 2072-4: "remember those forms which have been given. first, he was created - brought into being from all that there was in the earth, (as adam) an encasement for the soul of an entity,a part of the creator; knowing separation in death....again it (the soul who became jesus ) was manifested in enoch, who oft sought to walk and talk with that divine influence..." nina

[Flistelib]

hi! perhaps one of the books you may be looking for, and i don't know if you've read it already, is the gospel of thomas. all it is, is a collection of the sayings of jesus. it was never put in the bible, but it is thought to be the source upon which the gospels in the bible were partially derived from.

there's a great site which holds archives of most all the worlds sacred texts, free to read online. that may be the easiest way to find it, since i think it's hard to come by in physical book form. here's a link to the gospel of thomas on that site:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm

i hope that helps!
- john

thanks for the suggestions all. i really enjoyed what i have read so far in this one. kudos.

[DJElizardo]

an interesting book to read about the life of jesus is the [spiral, if you email elizal for these two books, it is appreciated-i am not familiar with them and they are not on dw's book list. thank you]
happy reading, happy wandering

[weluvjessicaalba]

hi, i'm new to "forum" stuff, and i just hit esc (after reviewing your question one last time before clicking on submit )and erased my whole reply!
uugg...onward...

while seeking for the same, i found two books very helpful.

[note from moderator: please email seeks for books and authors].

while neither is what you asked for per se, they will give you a valuable foundation regarding the various translations of the bible, and what life was like for jews during the time of jesus.

what others said about the gospel of thomas is true. however it is strictly one saying after another, with no story to go along with them. it is a must if for no other reason than to contemplate what was in it that treatened those in power who sought to destroy it.

in my first attempt to reply i gave a couple of examples of info i found particularly interesting in the "misquoting" book, but now fearing i'll erase this again, i'm cutting this short. if this attempt is successful, and you'd like me to give you those examples separately, i will.

also, i saw a tv show on cayce that said he read the bible from cover to cover 65 times. once for each year of his life. i wonder which version he enjoyed reading the most?

happy trails...

[weluvjessicaalba]

did i manage to delete the names of the books, or did i break a rule? anyway here are the names again...if they disappear this time...somebody/thing doesn't want them known...

1. misquoting jesus; the story behind who changed the bible and why, by bart d. ehrman..it's very interesting, and explains where and when various changes were perpetuated.

2. the jesus dynasty, by james tabor..this one reads more like a history book, but has valuable insight about life for the jews during jesus' lifetime.

love

[KJnbceja]

the gospels of thomas is probably the best reference for what you are looking for......but i have it in unaltered book and my sister printed it off of the internet. the one off the internet is much different than the one i have. the book i have is th gnostic bible by willis barstone and marvin meyer. it is the first gospel in the book and it is a direct translation (names are actual not the roman spellings or translations). i love it because when you read it it is direct refrences to asscention and the law of one (from my point of view). but everyone interprits their own way.

[Pypeassesty]

for the last three decades, i've been reading a 2,000 page "received" book, called the urantia book. a great number of celestial contributors collaborated for it, carefully utilizing the best thought of human authors (so as not to give us more than we could handle); yet also including striking revelatory material (most pointedly about jesus). the 2,000 pages are woven into an amazingly consistent and unfailingly elevating study. starting from a universe viewpoint, the text opens with discussion of the nature of deity + the structure of the universe, followed by earth history (geographic, religous, cultural, etc.), followed by part iv: the life and teachings of jesus. part iv is a year by year account of jesus' life from birth , which will either strike your inner truth resonator, or it won't. for me, however, the way jesus' life is depicted is spiritually consistent with david's perceptions, which is why i was drawn to divine cosmos.

[ENCOSEARRALIA]

for the last three decades, i've been reading a 2,000 page "received" book, called the urantia book. a great number of celestial contributors collaborated for it, carefully utilizing the best thought of human authors (so as not to give us more than we could handle); yet also including striking revelatory material (most pointedly about jesus). the 2,000 pages are woven into an amazingly consistent and unfailingly elevating study. starting from a universe viewpoint, the text opens with discussion of the nature of deity + the structure of the universe, followed by earth history (geographic, religous, cultural, etc.), followed by part iv: the life and teachings of jesus. part iv is a year by year account of jesus' life from birth , which will either strike your inner truth resonator, or it won't. for me, however, the way jesus' life is depicted is spiritually consistent with david's perceptions, which is why i was drawn to divine cosmos.

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hi.

there are several mentions of the book of urantia in material to found through llresearch.org. from the original ra material the book of urantia is stated to have "not been passed by the planetary council". (although the comparitively difficult to grasp 'ohaspe' work received such an imprimatur --which did surprise me.

following are comments from latwii (one of the factors -- along with the ra -- consitute the principle, q'uo, who is the main agent in post ra material communications )

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from llresearch....

k: yes, that reminds me of the urantia book. would you comment on the validity of the book?

i am latwii, and am aware of your query, my sister. this book, which your peoples call the urantia book, was compiled by entities existing within the so-called inner planes of your planet. these entities sought to be of service by explaining in their terms, yet using some veiling of explanation, the nature of creation and the nature of evolution upon this planet. these entities sought to be of this service in response to a call of the third-density entities of your planet many, many of your years in your past. as with all answers to those who call, the information offered is stated in such a way as to speak only to those who call. therefore, the information might be seen to be of a limited use, as is any information communicated in this manner, including the information which we have to offer.

may we answer you further, my sister?

k: then i’m assuming this is true of what we call the bible also.

i am latwii, and am aware of your query, my sister. to our knowledge, this is true of any information offered by any source to any who call. for any information is a distortion of that which is attempted in the transmission, that is to say, the nature of truth, the nature of creation, the nature of the creator is as it is. there are those who have traveled the path of seeking who have discovered more and more about truth, shall we say, but to attempt to describe it in what you call words is not to reveal the truth, but to point a direction towards the truth. words are not the experience, therefore, all words are distortion of the experience.

may we answer you further, my sister? ....

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my best, bbb


p.s. for those familiar with dr. richard hawkins' work the urantia material got a low rating on his consciousness scale ... but then again i have issues with certain of his ratings which appear totally bizzare to me.

[uncoodync]

for those familiar with dr. richard hawkins' work the urantia material got a low rating on his consciousness scale ... but then again i have issues with certain of his ratings which appear totally bizzare to me.

dr. richard hawkins??
perhaps you refer to dr david hawkins.

[illignocearia]

hello group,

the urantia post was released in error. however, since others have commented on it, i have decided to leave it in, but without the url, as we do not allow advertising. as billy bob has said, this book was not approved by the council in law of one. apparently there are distortions within the book that do not support the law of one in some way and billy has done a great job of informing us. also thank you to supermanny for his input. chris

[ENCOSEARRALIA]

dr. richard hawkins??
perhaps you refer to dr david hawkins.

thanks sm. you are the man. the guy i was thinking of is, of course, dr. david hawkins -- the famous kinesiologist and acclaimed author of power vs force etc., ... obviously i had the evolutionist/atheist dr. richard dawkins still stuck in my mind.

warms, billybobbrainlame