[Affolfembonge]

i once saw a cartoon that was probably the most enlightened piece of thought i have ever seen drawn in a newspaper. in the drawing there was this little boy sitting on his bed looking out the window, perfectly still content and quiet, totally absorbed into his self in the most perfect and natural of meditations, when all of a sudden his mother romps into the room, and says in loud command: hey, are you ready yet? you are going to be late for your meditation class!!.....

[viagsjicguara]

hey all -

i wanted to know what other people in this forum "thought" of our friends in peace at the maharishi/oneness university. dr. hagelin is a very good speaker (or at least the youtube clips i've seen of his are very good) and i certainly appreciate his ability to communicate peace scientifically on a "quantum level". when i get to purchase dw's "science of peace" next month i'll enjoy "comparing" the messages (i believe dws gonna be much better though - maybe a little preconceived bias? ).

anyway, the reason i ask about the "tm gang" is that there is negative publicity out there, which is very unfortunate, given their objectives of "amplifying meditation which results in peace". i can ignore the negativity, however, the only thing i don't like is "forking out" $5k to learn a technique - i think something like this should be free to all. to enrich my learning, i'm more than willing to shell out some cizash, but $5k is too much for a teacher. you may be asking yourself, "can you really put a price on such a thing?" yes and no. what i've learned up to this point is priceless, however, i sense that their practice of "overcharging" leads to separation and elite-ism. while i am certainly appreciative of what they are doing, i wish some things would be different. peace experts? yeah, i believe in such a "classification", however, we all wish to become "peace experts", right? the future belongs to all of us and we'll all take part.

i don't know how to classify my personal meditation techniques, i just know they are working and i'm getting better at it. and, soon, i hope to start group meditation... i don't want to be made to feel like i'm missing out or "inferior" because i'm not tm trained... but, i'm guessing thats a limitation i'm projecting on myself, so tisk tisk.

wouldn't it be nice if all of "us" embracing the shift worked together? its not about competition, but cooperation. people will flock where they will, and if only we could connect and help to spread love now...

[carline]

i would have to say i have had similar thoughts. i like how the whole peace government and tm deal is being created but it makes me raise an eyebrow because haglin reffers to tm in a lot of his just science topics as a fulcrum.

but on the same side they could just want to get things going large scale maybe thinking it would be better than most other larger bodies based in the capitialistic society we see today. so they could be getting a bit off track or maybe they want to see change really bad and have pure intentions thinking that large scale is the easiest way to go.

but i would rather have something like that large scale compared to other harmful industries and products we constantly see uprising in our markets today. maybe this is one of those "weighing the balances" deals.

good post.

[Oberjej]

anyway, the reason i ask about the "tm gang" is that there is negative publicity out there, which is very unfortunate, given their objectives of "amplifying meditation which results in peace". i can ignore the negativity, however, the only thing i don't like is "forking out" $5k to learn a technique - i think something like this should be free to all. to enrich my learning, i'm more than willing to shell out some cizash, but $5k is too much for a teacher. you may be asking yourself, "can you really put a price on such a thing?" yes and no. what i've learned up to this point is priceless, however, i sense that their practice of "overcharging" leads to separation and elite-ism. while i am certainly appreciative of what they are doing, i wish some things would be different. peace experts? yeah, i believe in such a "classification", however, we all wish to become "peace experts", right? the future belongs to all of us and we'll all take part.

i don't know how to classify my personal meditation techniques, i just know they are working and i'm getting better at it. and, soon, i hope to start group meditation... i don't want to be made to feel like i'm missing out or "inferior" because i'm not tm trained... but, i'm guessing thats a limitation i'm projecting on myself, so tisk tisk.

wouldn't it be nice if all of "us" embracing the shift worked together? its not about competition, but cooperation. people will flock where they will, and if only we could connect and help to spread love now...

though the maharishi effect is a documented fact, which we do intend to cite in the documentary version of convergence, and is detailed in the science of peace series, it very clearly does not require any particular form of meditation or study in order to be effective.

the law of one series said it about as plainly as ever: "there is no 'right way' to meditate."

keeping your spine straight has some degree of effectiveness. there also are two main types of meditation -- concentrative and contemplative. most people use contemplative meditation, where you just let your mind run free and try not to interfere. concentrative meditation is about a focused visualization that you hold for a long time -- especially something of a divine nature, such as sacred geometry.

there is more than a passing amount of significance placed on this in the law of one series. one of the reasons why i did not use as many illustrations in the convergence series as i could have is to teach / expect the reader to go into concentrative meditation as they read the material and contemplate the three-dimensional images i am creating.

- david