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Old 08-24-2009, 03:50 PM   #1
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Default Thought shielding & hiding ones presence
I read alot of fantasy where there is usually a little girl/boy this is gifted in some kind of magickal sence.
Thought they are only books some often have relevance to reality like Philip Pullman's - His Dark Materials.

I am awhere that it is possible to hide once thoughts. In one books there teacher tought the student that you had to imagine a kind of fog/cloud floating around ones head in order to hide your thoughts and the student had to train for severol days/weeks under the watch of the teacher not to drop her guard untill the 'action' where imprinted on a perminent basis.
In other areas I read that all you need to do to hide your though is to create a psychic shield and program/visualise/tell it to hide your thoughs.
Though this sounds simple enough I have been experiment and find this approach quite difficult if not ineffective.

I'ff come to realise that I can kind of think a thought and just before my body 'broadcast' it I can stop it
; kind of like thinking really quickly and changing the subject or something just before the surroundings(people) can subconsiously react to it.Or thinking it in then back of your mind while occupying the surroundings with another thought/action. I'm not sure i'ff this approach is just describing the above in a different way but I do find that i't requires some effort (mentaly).

On hiding once presence I don't specifly have any experience but I do expect that people do this subconsiously like a thief or a teenager sneeking out at night to get stoned - not to arouse suspicion.
I believe this also has something to do with shielding and controling ones mind (visualisation ect.) in a specific way.

Just wondering ? Any input appreciated!
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:21 PM   #2
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The only way I have found to do this successfully has been to blank my mind, instead of filling it up with other stuff, which really doesn't work for me.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:20 AM   #3
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There are several aspects to these questions.

Firstly, blanking your mind simply makes you stop thinking, so there is nothing to hide. Effective but not useful as the question is how to have thoughts but hide them.

There are three basic says to 'read' thoughts. The hardest but more direct is to 'look' into another's mind. This is a shielding issue and beyond the scope of these questions.
The second is to intercept ESP which is hard to do. A sender can reduce this leakage greatly through intent. Send your thoughts only when necessary and try to direct them to specific people.

The third and most common is to pick up on thoughts broadcast via energy. The most common (and unconscious) form of this is through emotion. Detaching emotion from thinking is the obvious solution. The only way I know to do this it through meditation. One can also reduce this form of broadcasting by inverting various shielding techniques. Note that depending on what type shield you choose, it may affect other energy things.

A related approach is to blend into the environment.
See topics on 'Invisible' http://forums.astraldynamics.com/vie...ilit=invisible
and 'The Unknowable' http://forums.astraldynamics.com/vie...ilit=invisible
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:35 PM   #4
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Detaching emotion from thinking is the obvious solution
My mother is an expert at this (in a very dysfunctional way). Her emotions seem to have absolutely no relationship to her thoughts or words. Mind you, my mother isn't very good at the whole 'thinking' thing to begin with, but when I read that, I suddenly thought of her. She DOES make people say (or think), "What on earth are you THINKING?!"

I'm not actually being flippant. I'm wondering now if this pattern is something she developed as a means of self-protection when she was a kid. A way of disguising her true thoughts and so forth.

The thing is, I did this exact same thing for most of my life, too, having learned it, apparently, from her...

Interesting.
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:14 PM   #5
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OK so what you are telling me is that The stronger the emotion the stronger the thoughtS effect.

I once read In a random shamantic booklet that emotion+intent =Magick . Im not sure i'ff this might be the effect that you might be talking about? Sometimes; even i'ff you think but not 'feel' you effect subconsious 'surroundings'- "words 'but I often call it opinions".Mental chatter if you will.

You gave me a long answer but I'm talking about when you specificly look the person in the eye(4 1) adn when your sitting in a big hall with many other students/movie ect.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:00 PM   #6
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OK so what you are telling me is that The stronger the emotion the stronger the thoughtS effect.
The stronger the emotion, the stronger the broadcast.

You gave me a long answer but I'm talking about when you specificly look the person in the eye(4 1)
There are two factors I can think of. The more calm (internal stillness) and present you can be the less you will give away. Being detached helps in the same way as stillness but to a lesser degree. Emotion has a significant effect as it also shows in a purely physical way (visual, smell and possibly sound). Stillness in this context mostly means no emotion or mind chatter. Part of the effect is that stillness shows little (nothing to pick up on). The contribution of being present is more subtle. When being present, you are only responding to the current situation so that's all you can give away. If like most people you are remembering the past or anticipating the future you can also send them. Secondarily, acting in the NOW happens only after they make a move. Where as mind chatter or emotion can start at any time giving them more time to read and react.

Mediation can help with both these. For stillness you need to get beyond stationary meditation. Either moving meditation or learning to not 'exit' mediation when getting up are required.

A whole different way is to develop your lucid dreaming skills so you can become lucid while awake. Then let the lucid watcher do the thinking, not the awake participant. This indirection hides your intention. It also is taxing on the mind leaving it less opportunity to give additional information away.

adn when your sitting in a big hall with many other students/movie ect.
Sitting in a hall basically means that you are not facing anyone else. This is a far easier situation. In addition to the above; physical stillness, energy shielding, and transparency techniques will help.

NOTE for the advanced practitioners: all the above can be defeated by shifting your awareness to assemble the world of intent (Toltec technique) which will show you intent (not your actual thoughts). I do not know a counter for this.
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