[Sopzoozyren]

Those of you who have a very developed auric sight ability, not mind's eye ability, just the normal auric vision one:
do you see other things other than auras?
like ghosts, or people in their astral bodies, like Robert Bruce does?
if it happens, at what stage of developement it does?
Through regular meditation and constant exercising on people, I see that my auric vision ability is developing very clearly. at first the change was extremely fast and noticeable day after day. now it has become slower, but still impressive, I see differently week after week.
Now I am a little worried, as I don't feel ready to start seeing any entities flying in my room, would it be my family members, unconsious in their astral bodies, or any other "super natural" thing...

if such thing has ever happened to you, how did you react the first time?

do you have anything to say about this?

[TeLMgNva]

If you really think that you are seeing non-expected colours from your physical eyes (not the mind's eye and not in any way related to the mind's eye, even by the brain mixing them into one picture), and this is rapidly changing ("week to week"), you might want to get a medical checkup on tumors of the optic nerve. My wife suggests that there are tumors that can give you that condition and that they are known to grow rapidly. There is a chance that this is not auric sight after all but a condition of the eye that needs treatment as soon as possible. It is not necessarily probable, but I just had to say it.

I am double-posting this by intent.

Oliver

[Sopzoozyren]

Oliver, I made the precision "not with the mind's eye" just because on another topic, people started talking to me about seeing auras with their eyes closed, something I can't do and consider "a little more" than auric vision, a little more than what I refer to here as "normal auric vision".
So when I say "not with mind's eye vision", I don't mean solely using the phisical eyes (although they probably play a role), but I mean with your eyes open, in the ordinary way taught by Robert Bruce in his book.

thanks for your concern, anyway.

[Sopzoozyren]

thinkin of it a little more, I find your post Korpo, kind of silly... even though probably well intentioned.
a problem with the optic nerve, if it causes one to see colours, would cause me to see them everywhere, all the time.
I see colours only around people, and I can increase their clairity with a certain "movement of the mind". (or rather a "non movement of the mind").
now unless you still believe that one can learn to control an optic nerve tumor, and that such optic nerve tumors react only to the vision of humans, you should have started seeing how inapropriate your remark was...

but let us forget about all this, and if someone could reply to my questions...

[TeLMgNva]

You have the skill of having an extremely selective logic. Suit yourself.

Oliver

[Hammaduersnes]

thinkin of it a little more, I find your post Korpo, kind of silly... even though probably well intentioned.

but let us forget about all this, and if someone could reply to my questions...

Yusf, all moderators have an obligation to post their warnings if they feel there is any possibility of there being a physical malady that could be affecting any of our friends and seekers. Even if it is improbable. How do you think we'd feel if a few years later you ended up blind from a brain tumor and we knew that someone thought that was a possibility but no one said anything?
I'd rather overwarn and be laughed at than underwarn and be wrong.

[WhiliaStelt]

Practice/use does help, keep it up (in moderation). For most, progress comes in spurts. Not to sound too much like RB, but general energy work really does help with this (and many other things).

I experience auric vision of energy as if physical seeing. The overlay with normal vision looks like the shimmer on a hot summer day.

What you see first is dependant on what is around you and how tightly your mind was trained 'not' to see certain things. I am good at auras but have difficulty with ETs.

If you are apprehensive or uncertain, that will make seeing entities much harder.

A few suggestions:
-Work on energy balls (between hands), when you can make one >4 inches across, try looking through it.
-take an energy healing class (not one with a formal certificate), then try putting energy on your hand and 'touching' things with it.
-take up lucid dreaming and do auric vision within LD.
-go to a graveyard at night (with permission or just stand at the edge) where you are more likely to have someone/something to see.

[TeLMgNva]

I experience auric vision of energy as if physical seeing. The overlay with normal vision looks like the shimmer on a hot summer day.

Same here, especially noticeable with a white wall as background.

yusf1,

My strongest aura seeing experience I had during a session of Qigong where we as a group (Qigong class) trained activating the meridian lines in the arm by moving a hand along them within the aura and without touching the body.

I closed my eyes while doing this and fully concentrating on the sensations in my hand and in my aura and in my arm. I was very relaxed. When the Qigong teacher told us to open our eyes, I could see a layered aura around all people in there - a layer of green and a layer of yellow, in typical neon aura colours. That was amazing.

So, energy work does not have to be on the third eye to develop such things. Getting things going and moving is IMO what makes the differences. Cleansing the meridian lines is one such thing. Also getting the Microcosmic Orbit going - which integrates the chakra points and also regulates the merdians - might be helpful, and so on. Training circulation and having energy flow smooth (and therefore strong) in your body will help develop your abilities. I agree with wstein here that energy work can be very helpful in developing this psychic skill.

He's also right that one of the strongest hindrances to developing auric sight is the belief system of a person. Children, who often have more free-flowing energy than adults (they are not blocked down emotionally yet) and also have less belief system filters yet are often capable of seeing things adults have a hard time believing them. See for example Barbara Brennan and the descriptions she gives of her youth.

Imagination and the inner senses are also linked. We often believe we make our experiences up when really we are just applying the skill of imagination. See Bruce Moen's books about using imagination as "the primer" for the inner senses.

Oliver

[Sopzoozyren]

my system of belief, supposing I really do have one, if it doesn't help developing psychic abilities, doesn't say one can't (or shouldn't) learn them either.
I prefer meditation to any energy work. I'm rather good at it, I can meditate for an hour or more without the least thought crossing my mind, and actually I have a natural ability for that, since I could do it the first time I tried. I notice that during the few minutes following a meditation session, auras appear to me more easily, which make me believe even more in the words of the wise tibetan master Lopon Tenzin Namdak, who explains that psychic abilities develop by themselves, spontaneously and without the least effort, as a result of meditation (concentrative meditation), even though for them (tibetan masters), these powers are secondary, the real power being control over the mind and over their existance.


To sum it up, no one has ever seen any supernatural entity as a consequence of a developed auric sight ability. thank you.
(yes Korpo you can see here too that I have an extremely selective logic...)

[TeLMgNva]

Meditation and energy work are not orthogonal things - meditation is also energy work. Meditation gets energy going. Energy underlies everything. Somebody with sufficient perception of energy would know this. There is no meditation technique in existence that does not induce changes in the energy bodies, because that is what anybody *is* - energy.

To sum it up, no one has ever seen any supernatural entity as a consequence of a developed auric sight ability.

I know several people that did. I saw entities at two instances.

Rest assured that you made it to my "Ignore List" now finally since your only purpose here is to argue with others.

Oliver

[TeLMgNva]

which make me believe even more in the words of the wise tibetan master Lopon Tenzin Namdak, who explains that psychic abilities develop by themselves, spontaneously and without the least effort, as a result of meditation (concentrative meditation), even though for them (tibetan masters), these powers are secondary, the real power being control over the mind and over their existance.

1) Meditation is in its own way energy work.
2) Without even targetting specific psychic abilities energy work and meditation can still and will still activate certain psychic abilities.
3) It is not "without the least effort" but "without the least effort *beyond cleansing itself*" (= without any extra effort beyond the meditation routine) that psychic abilities develop. The development of the energy body itself will manifest psychic abilities, and meditation is a technique for it.
4) Not seeking siddhis (psychic abilities) instead of liberation is standard dogma of Buddhism. This is a preference or moral choice of "enlightenment first". This does not mean "energy work does not lead to psychic abilities", instead it means "energy work and meditation *will* lead to psychic abilities, but that's not the main goal". This is part of a school of thinking that tends towards seeing psychic abilities as potential traps along the spiritual path, where they will inevitably arise.

The aforementioned points are widely known among students of the spiritual paths of Hinduism, Buddhism or Daoism or also serious students of the meditation traditions of this world.

Oliver

[Sopzoozyren]

Either you're detailing what I hurridely mentioned, philisophizing a little about it (there's no harm about it), or correcting what is actually, maybe just a little badly expressed due to my modest English... in any case, we completely agree.
see...keep nerve tumors away and we won't have much to argue about.

As for my supernatural entities and astral vehicles, the real object of this topic, I guess I'll have to wait and experiment with them myself when the time is right, if there's anything to experiment with.

[Sopzoozyren]

one last thing, Korpo...
it seems that the fact that my auric sight ability is developing on a weekly basis that made you think that this could be actually an illness.
is it because you consider that such a developement speed is abnormal?
in this case, what is a normal developement speed to you? (yours for exemple).
(I know that it differrs depending in people)

Of course anyone can drop a line...

[lorrieholdridge]

Well, outside of the suggestions from others. I have always envied those that had that ability, I only was able to see a silver glow around things...never any colors.

From what I have learned about it is you may be a gifted healer, and should maybe learn about healing. There was a show which only aired a few episodes called "psychic kids", I would look for it on youtube. Watch all the episodes, I think there is about 6. It was a great show and wished it was still on for that very reason.

There is a good book on healing, called The Light Touch, by Judie Chiappone, RN, LMT. I know it works because my friend was a pro, and did amazing things.

Good luck

[infinkPoode]

Those of you who have a very developed auric sight ability, not mind's eye ability, just the normal auric vision one:
do you see other things other than auras?
like ghosts, or people in their astral bodies, like Robert Bruce does?
if it happens, at what stage of developement it does?
Through regular meditation and constant exercising on people, I see that my auric vision ability is developing very clearly. at first the change was extremely fast and noticeable day after day. now it has become slower, but still impressive, I see differently week after week.
Now I am a little worried, as I don't feel ready to start seeing any entities flying in my room, would it be my family members, unconsious in their astral bodies, or any other "super natural" thing...

if such thing has ever happened to you, how did you react the first time?

do you have anything to say about this?

There are specific exercises one can do to practice seeing auras and it's not that difficult. Personally speaking I see entities often and they don't bother me too much, I'm used to it.

[megasprut]

do you see other things other than auras?

like ghosts, or people in their astral bodies, like Robert Bruce does?
yes
if it happens, at what stage of developement it does? One is born with some ability/s and these may be at any level and they will also gradually with experience and practice . develop new abilities too.
Through regular meditation and constant exercising on people, I see that my auric vision ability is developing very clearly. at first the change was extremely fast and noticeable day after day. now it has become slower, but still impressive, I see differently week after week.Now I am a little worried, as I don't feel ready to start seeing any entities flying in my room, would it be my family members, unconsious in their astral bodies, or any other "super natural" thing...if such thing has ever happened to you, how did you react the first time? Do you have anything to say about this? I found that the spontaneously occuring visions were for various reasons and that over time I could control most of these and learn to tune in or tune out to switch on or switch off.
Here is a link about tuning in and out ;
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/ ... 119.0.html