[Wluwsdtn]

Hello. I have been trying to astral project for a couple of months now (as I had expected when first starting). Though never successful I have always gotten some of the effects, but recently a few new things have been happening when I try. Firstly, I get a weird feeling, almost like the feeling when you swing on a swingset with your head tilted back all the way. While I was able to ignore that completely. All the sudden I could feel myself start to breathe harder and my heart was beating very quickly. I freaked out and messed the whole process up. Are these things normal?

On a side note, could anyone elaborate on my difficulties getting to the vibrational stage?

Also, just in case somehow it helps.. I usually lay there for 10 or so minutes and thoughts will run rapidly through my mind and any efforts to make them stop makes it worse. If I lay there for the 10 minutes just letting them they seem to go away and I am able to hear the ringing in my head better so I can focus on that and get to the time where my body is basically asleep.

[sbrpkkl]

Firstly, I get a weird feeling, almost like the feeling when you swing on a swingset with your head tilted back all the way.

Don't wait for the vibrations or whatever other indicators you're watching out for. This seems to be a symptom of a deepening trance (the feeling of falling is mentioned by Robert as one of the primary indications trance is happening) and possibly the begin of loosening from your physical body.

All the sudden I could feel myself start to breathe harder and my heart was beating very quickly.

Next time - make a simple test. Try to feel your pulse at the wrist and see if it is fast or slow. If it is your heart center starting to pulse faster, your pulse at the wrist should not go up.

Also, just in case somehow it helps.. I usually lay there for 10 or so minutes and thoughts will run rapidly through my mind and any efforts to make them stop makes it worse.

Forcing the mind quiet is like putting a lid on a kettle. If there is steam in the kettle, it will collect and increase the pressure. This is IMO counter-productive.

If I lay there for the 10 minutes just letting them they seem to go away and I am able to hear the ringing in my head better so I can focus on that and get to the time where my body is basically asleep.

That's way better. Instead of forcing it to shut up you let your mind "run out of steam". That is very good progress, I'd say.

What ringing in your head? Do you have tinnitus?

You can also support this by a progressive relaxation routine like described in MAP.

Take good care,
Oliver

[Wluwsdtn]

Thanks for the help! Well, since I know the vibrations will happen, how exactly do I not wait for them to come?

Well I believe everyone has the ringing. If you lay down and relax with everything in your area completely quiet, usually most people can hear a faint ringing sound. My other method besides that is to find 1 or 2 words to repeat over and over until the effects begin to kick in.

[Dyerryjex]

Thanks for the help! Well, since I know the vibrations will happen, how exactly do I not wait for them to come?

Because they won't always. Vibrations are side effects of consciousness transfer, and they are more pronounced at first (mostly, some people never get them.) But eventually, with lots of experience, they will move (in the sense that they will happen at different times in the trance) and very often projectors don't get them anymore at exit time (almost always at reentry time, for some reason).
Some people never ever get them, even from day 1.
Like Korpo said, the floaty- movy feeling are exit sensations, and I consider them to be end-stage vibrations (although I know some don't.) That is, vibrations that you have synchronized with, therefore experience differently. So waiting for vibrations is not always a good idea. Because they can come at the 'wrong' time for exit, or not at all.