[Zaebal]

HI!!!!

Well I am asking, I asked in a spanish forum I usually ask and people normally is nice and knows whta I need to know but this time with that question I dont know what to do.

Almost everyone said it was not risky for me but one guy said it was dangerous, I dont want to read all the negative stuff because if you read it it will surely happen to you (like when yoy think you are going to loose the exam you loose it)
A frind I have explained to me that you dont have problems while obeing because your body is not empty is that correct?

Anyway, I am asking because like 2 month ago I started to feel that I need to obe at will and explore the astral planes, but I dont want to cause trouble at home if an entity catchs my body and do whatever it likes to do, I dont fear that but I fear for my family security. Now in this last days I am feeling the urgent need to get out of body but again, this uncertain stuff is stopping me.

Thanks again in advance, I really need advice of people who obe, I had OBE some time ago and "I know" that I obe but I dont have memories of that.

[Dyerryjex]

In the interest of Lucia's clarity I'll answer the question in spanish. If anyone wants me to tranlate I'll be happy to.

[Dyerryjex]

HI!!!!

Well I am asking, I asked in a spanish forum I usually ask and people normally is nice and knows whta I need to know but this time with that question I dont know what to do.

Almost everyone said it was not risky for me but one guy said it was dangerous, I dont want to read all the negative stuff because if you read it it will surely happen to you (like when yoy think you are going to loose the exam you loose it)

No es fÃÂ♥sicamente peligroso, porque en teminos fÃÂ♥sicos es el mismo riesgo que corres cuando te vas a dormir.

A frind I have explained to me that you dont have problems while obeing because your body is not empty is that correct? Correcto. Cuando proyectas no dejas el cuerpo vacio; simplemente transfieres tu punto de vista al vehiculo astral que mas correspondencia tenga a el 'plano' astral. Si vas a visitar el RTZ (plano etérico) el vehÃÂ♥culo sera el cuerpo eterico, que existe ya, simplemente en las horas en que estás despierta no estás muy conciente de el.
En otras palabras, tu siempre tienes una variedad de vehiculos "cuerpos" energéticos que son parte de tÃÂ♥, aunque no estes conciente de ellos: pero cuando tienes un sueño o proyectas tu conciencia, lo que estas haciendo es 'dándote cuenta' de lo que estas haciendo.
Por eso hay muchas veces que tienes sueños profeticos, y otras 'abilidades'- porque tu subconsciente te está dejando saber que está pasando mientras estás enfocada en la realidad fÃÂ♥sica.
Cuando empiezas a proyectar, te das cuenta de muchas cosas que están sucediendo ya- y ese es el unico peligro- el peligro de ser testigo(a) de lo que ocurre en vez de leer de lo que otros veen. (veen? ven? )
No es lo mismo ver en primera persona algo que da miedo, y hay personas inestables que no quedan bien despues de ver ciertas cosas.
Pero si eres estable, si ya has visto 'ciertas cosas' que le darÃÂ♥an miedo a otros que no estan preparados, y comprendes que hay muchos sÃÂ♥ntomas energéticos que pueden confundirse con otras cosas, no vas a tener muchos problemas. Depende de lo que te asuste.

Anyway, I am asking because like 2 month ago I started to feel that I need to obe at will and explore the astral planes, but I dont want to cause trouble at home if an entity catchs my body and do whatever it likes to do, I dont fear that but I fear for my family security. Now in this last days I am feeling the urgent need to get out of body but again, this uncertain stuff is stopping me. Bueno, puedes hacer el programa de MAP de noventa dÃÂ♥as- creo que hay una versión en español- no estoy segura, pero cuando el website esté terminado de arreglar te puedo dar un enlace con el sistema. Creo que Astral Dynamics fué traducido al español también, hace unos años, pero para aprender control you prefiero el sistema de MAP.

Thanks again in advance, I really need advice of people who obe, I had OBE some time ago and "I know" that I obe but I dont have memories of that. Despues (si quieres) puedo hacer una lista de sintomas de proyección que dan miedo pero no son malos- sintomas energéticos.
Ya me cansé de 'copy and paste' los acentos y las eñes. Asi que

[Zaebal]

Thanks CFTraveler for the explanation in spanish much easer for me.

Regarding the "fear" factor I think that I am qualified with it, while doing chakras openings I see things that scared a well prepared friend, we fighted demons a little, well with the light I give people if there is a demon inside the person it just gets out, my friend who is like clairvoyant but not as seeing the future, she knows things about people just by thinking on them and she can place herself in the body of the other person and feels what the person feels and think (scary jaja) Anyway, we had encounters very disgusting with demon and negs and she was sooooo scared that she quit her help with me, I mean, she never did again the opening at my side she was very scared with the dark things she felt, that why I think I am prepared, I never was scared just say "wow whats that?" I had another encounter on saturday, I was talking to a friend and she told me some interesting things that where happening to her, and while doing that I had a connetion with her and so I started to see dark minion, demons near my friend, so I started to work with her, I dont know if I was succesfull but at least I felt light on her instead of darkness, that was strange but is more normal than people thinks, demon trying to put bad thoughts on your mind.

By "MAP" you mean Mastering astral projection? Ok, I will get it now and start with this, I was reading astral dynamics in spanish and it helped a little to understand some things...

thanks again I am really gratefull.. if I dont come like in one month probably I am in a hospital jajajaja