[seervezex]

My spontaneous OBE’s happen most often just after the New moon.

Last night, After doing some healing, I manifested my desires to wake up often (to see if I’m dreaming) and also to remember my dreams and write them down. Then I did some energy work until I fell asleep, with my crown and Cranial pump thrumming.

I woke up at around 2am at the end of a mostly boring OBE, where I had been trying to visit this place that’s been in my mind for some time. It’s a landscape that I saw in a vision, but couldn’t finish the vision. Last night, I couldn’t visit it either.

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Upon re-entry from the previous OBE, I projected back out, into the small canyon in my backyard. First, I was irritated that I flew through this tree rather than around it. Then I was struck by the beauty of the moon above and wanted badly to visit it, but some force pulled me down equally as firmly as my desire to travel upwards.

So I surrendered to the experience and sat in mid air, in waiting. Only a moment later, a knotted, twisted, large oak tree appeared and drew me towards it by some seductive magic. I don’t know what kind of tree this was, only that it seemed ancient and mystical, and alive, and that there is no tree like this where I live. It seemed like it would have belonged in the faery realm. The air around it glistened as if it was made of magic itself, and the foliage seemed excessively green and vibrant, and perfectly dew-covered. A dense fog, that was more of a haze, surrounded this area. The door opened, and I stepped into the room inside the tree.

The tree was giving me some kinds of higher messages that were a little above my comprehension; they were in the form of symbolism, thoughtforms, feelings. There was something telling me that I had to be in the tree to get my psychic reading (?).

Either I was falling asleep or the messages were increasingly complex and I was interpreting them as abstract nonsense, but my experience was a complete fog for a moment…until the three women showed up. I don’t know what their purpose was, it seemed like they had one when they arrived, but the experience became increasingly sexual and that’s not what I wanted, so I reentered my physical body, downloaded, and projected once more.

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Stepping through the tree-door, I stood in a cityscape where a man waited for me in a brown 80’s style buick 4-door car, and he beckoned me in. In this industrial area, everything seemed wet from a recent rain, and the air was thick and heavy, and dull-colored, but it wasn’t raining. This place had a bleak and hopeless feel.

Pointing towards the sky, he said: “Look.” And I saw fleets of spacecraft passing very slowly overhead. He told me: “we normally can’t see them because they conceal themselves.” I observed one of the small space crafts, looking like a modern plane, spraying some stuff in the air that made the sky look cloudy, dull, less vibrant…I’m struggling to describe this.

As the sky appearance changed, so did the spacecraft disappear. The man said some more things to me, which I can barely remember, only as keywords, then he dropped me off at the tree-door.
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When I awoke, I had just enough willpower to scribble “3 OBE’s,” “Tree,” and “Alien Fleet.”

My heart longs to be back at that tree, for some purpose unknown to me.

[Knqzjbmf]

Hey, Sleeper. The oak is definitely one of the magical trees. It has a number of associations. You can find some information here: http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/oak.htm

I was drawn to your post because I've had UFO dreams two nights running. In the first dream the sight of a UFO led to fleeting lucidity. On the second night I did a reality check where I closed my eyes reasoning that a dream body has no eyelids and therefore I should continue to see the scene. Nonetheless, everything went black and I didn't have the usual sense of lying in trance in my bed so I "opened" my "eyes" and allowed the dream to resume.

Ultimately, I was spared abduction because a fleet of flying craft came and pursued the UFO that had been hovering close and threateningly. These government craft were exceptionally vivid and futuristic.

[seervezex]

Thanks for the link, that was a good read.

I've got the impression from a lot of my dreams that our governments would be flying a lot of these crafts also. I've had very few where the super high tech and foreign looking airships might have belonged to aliens, but mostly i get the impression that they're of this world.

it keeps making me wonder what my dreams are telling me, what our dreams are telling us, i guess. The spacecraft I dream of are usually very unique and unlike anything i've ever seen in real life.

[Impariclainna]

I had a dream containing the same elements. A fleet of UFO's, people climbing trees.

In the beginning part of the dream, the fleet was summonsed because I had fulfilled a law by completing a term of slavery.

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[chuviskkk]

Feel free to ignore my senseless thinking.
Some people (me included) understand the universe as a tree, well at least the part that can be understood with human senses and minds. Not just that but hundreds of more things. how the tree would function beyond the existence of 'things' I dont know. Going to other places through the tree makes sense to me because the tree contains the universe. Appearantly the tree you came in contact with stretches beyond the universe that can be known using the human mind, thats what the symbols are about, things beyond what can be thought of using the usual human way of thinking ("beyond the astral" ). Beyond taste, touch, sight, smell, and some other senses. I think symbols are attempts at communicating things from beyond the edge of the universe where nothing exists as objects.

[seervezex]

I think symbols are attempts at communicating things from beyond the edge of the universe where nothing exists as objects.

The oak is definitely one of the magical trees. It has a number of associations. You can find some information here: http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/oak.htm

you really got me thinking with this one. Trees have probably been the most universal symbol for me, since I was a child I've had probably more mystical experiences with trees than anything else. A tree is a great symbol for the cosmos, and I tend to view them that way. This discussion has led me to revisit an old idea - that everything is in each thing - that the tree is a symbol for me, for magic, for the cosmos, also a gateway to my inner selves, etc., but also that we are symbols for those things, etc.

But beyond my personal affinity for trees, there were things that happened in this projection that I didn't write about because i didn't understand them ... and didn't have the words to describe them. I'd like to believe that we all have the potential to understand anything, but by and large, this projection was a humbling affair. it made the universe seem very large and me seem very small.

[lerobudrse]

To have the potential to understand something, you must first be able to see it. Those who think they already understand everything don't - they just don't see anything they don't understand. Those who become wise will see much more, and hence will see more that is not understood.

[chuviskkk]

Those who become wise will see much more, and hence will see more that is not understood.

Ommmmmn...
And if there is a point where everything no longer exists the way we understand things as existing... If language and the human senses were abandoned to make room for other ways of thinking and feeling, would these 'symbols' be understandable?
There is no way that everything can ever be taught, the universe is much to large with too many layers. Science is the attempt of millions of people dedicating their lives to understanding one tiny sliver of the universe. It would be wise to decide what part of the universe is worth knowing, and what part your mind is occupied in.

[Knqzjbmf]

Sleeper, I can only speculate on what occurred in your experience and it sounds amazing. If you're a reader, you may very much enjoy Hank wesselman's "Spiritwalker." he encounters some interesting nature spirits and gateway entities http://www.sharedwisdom.com/books.html

Mystikal, I trust you remain in good health!

[seervezex]

Beekeeper, I haven't had a chance to read that book but it looks great. thank you for introducing that author to me.

I live in Northern California, where a large concentration of the fires are, and while the fires are small, there are so many of them that a dull brown blanket of smoke covers the surrounding mountains, at the best times, and fills the valley I live in, at the worst times. All day long, the sky is dull brown, bleak and depressing.

In my projection, the conversation never talked about fires, and in my wildest imagination, i doubt i could have imagined that california would have over 800 fires spring up in one weekend, or that they could color the sky that way. nevertheless, the physical sky looks exactly the same as the sky in my projection.

[hieklyintinee]

There are some nasty little Grey critters setting up military bases on the back of the moon, and like the guy in the OBE said, they normally conceal themselves.
The craft spraying chmicals in the air - I'm guessing it looked like a plane with no wings?
They're planning an all-out invasion soon. A voice once told me it will take place before the 2012 event, if I understood it correctly.

Do you remember any of the 'key words' the guy said? It could be important.

I normally have trouble getting to the moon as well, but I think I got a brief glimpse of the moon's back-side. There were lights here and there like city lights. Maybe I'll look for these old trees you guys are talking about

[Dyerryjex]

There are some nasty little Grey critters setting up military bases on the back of the moon, and like the guy in the OBE said, they normally conceal themselves.
The craft spraying chmicals in the air - I'm guessing it looked like a plane with no wings?
They're planning an all-out invasion soon. A voice once told me it will take place before the 2012 event, if I understood it correctly.

Do you remember any of the 'key words' the guy said? It could be important.

I normally have trouble getting to the moon as well, but I think I got a brief glimpse of the moon's back-side. There were lights here and there like city lights. Maybe I'll look for these old trees you guys are talking about

You mean you projected to the moon and saw military bases on the dark side?

[pissmanvd]

Don't we have pictures of the far side of the moon?
I'm pretty sure I've seen some... and I don't remember seeing any cities.
Now, perhaps they're cloaked...

[hieklyintinee]

I just saw city lights - a quick image. On another occasion I saw a superimposed image of space crafts using the moon to conceal themselves. Can't say I've seen any detailed images of the bases, but other people have. I'm mostly trying to confirm it.

Regardless of what NASA cooks up in Photoshop, we have every indication there are bases on the back side.

[Symnunidanimb]

I just saw city lights - a quick image. On another occasion I saw a superimposed image of space crafts using the moon to conceal themselves. Can't say I've seen any detailed images of the bases, but other people have. I'm mostly trying to confirm it.

Regardless of what NASA cooks up in Photoshop, we have every indication there are bases on the back side.

Where did you get the idea in the first place in order to confirm it?

[hieklyintinee]

Look a little to the left where I said "other people have seen it"

[Dyerryjex]

I'm not sure why I'm resurrecting this post, but in rereading it I realize I didn't point out a similar experience I had. I had talked about it on another post, but for some reason, it struck me as significant now. So forgive me for bumping it but here it is: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5518&p=42073#p42073