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Hello all im new so hope you can help me a little

I have had quite a few spontaneous O.B.E's. over the past 10 months (about 12) I dont know about you guys but with me it started with me having s.p and not knowing what it was.There would be a loud rushing noise like a plane taking off and a vibration, i would shake my self like crazy to snap out of it.It was realy freaky and scary at the same time. one night i ran with it and try to get up so i did! i felt very sluggish as i stood at the side of the bed looking at myself in bed asleep! (you know the story lol).I dont get that now i just tend to wake to the vibrations from time to time and try and role out (i find that way best).Somtimes it will be months before it happens again I cant seem to induce the vibrations willingly verry well i have had some luck but my hart races and kind of wakes me too much.I stay local and only for may be 30 seconds to 1 min? Ifirst feel the floor having roled out and fallen slowly to my hands and knees, then sight comes as i realise i am out,i still feel quite dense not like i can just fly off willy nilly.I always feel an exited calm if that makes any scense? and am left with no doubut that i am not dreaming (i have had lusid dreams where everything is much more clear and vivid!) i have viewed my second body in the bedroom morror sevral times and also studid my astral arms and hands.But alas like most i guess i cant induce this consciosusly.

Any help would be of great help

Kind Regards. martin.

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Hello all im new so hope you can help me a little

I have had quite a few spontaneous O.B.E's. over the past 10 months (about 12) I dont know about you guys but with me it started with me having s.p and not knowing what it was.There would be a loud rushing noise like a plane taking off and a vibration, i would shake my self like crazy to snap out of it.It was realy freaky and scary at the same time. one night i ran with it and try to get up so i did! i felt very sluggish as i stood at the side of the bed looking at myself in bed asleep! (you know the story lol).I dont get that now i just tend to wake to the vibrations from time to time and try and role out (i find that way best).Somtimes it will be months before it happens again I cant seem to induce the vibrations willingly verry well i have had some luck but my hart races and kind of wakes me too much.I stay local and only for may be 30 seconds to 1 min? Ifirst feel the floor having roled out and fallen slowly to my hands and knees, then sight comes as i realise i am out,i still feel quite dense not like i can just fly off willy nilly.I always feel an exited calm if that makes any scense? and am left with no doubut that i am not dreaming (i have had lusid dreams where everything is much more clear and vivid!) i have viewed my second body in the bedroom morror sevral times and also studid my astral arms and hands.But alas like most i guess i cant induce this consciosusly.

Hi Martin.
A few things: It's good that you get spontaneous OBEs, this will make it easier for you to learn to induce the OBE state.
Some of the things you need to do to get to this is to be able to get into trance deep enough to be able to be awake when the exit sensations hit (in your case vibrations, at least for now.) It seems from your post that you are probably running out of energy before you can go further when you do get out, and the cultivation of your energy body is a good thing to have so you can induce the ideal state for the OBE to happen.
Have you read Robert's Treatise? He gives a good indication of what you need to do to control this state: Developing your energy body, lucidity and awareness, and the ability to stay awake when you reach deep trance.
A note: You shouldn't really try to induce vibrations, because vibrations are something that happens to you when you change state- so what you need to do is to want to reach the state in which vibrations happen. I make this distinction because vibrations are a marker for a change of state, and after some time and experience projectors usually stop feeling them (their minds get used to the change, and it becomes something that's not quite so traumatic) and then need to find something else to notice the change of state.
Anyway, here's the treatise: http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=65

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Thanks for your responce

yes most of the things you talk about ring true,i used to get very heavy vibrations and noise now that seems to have stopped what other triggers should i look for? i can stay on the brink of sleep (no mind talking) for like 40 min i just get fed up and go to sleep?

Kind Regards.Martin

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Thanks for your responce
Kind Regards.Martin

You're welcome.


what other triggers should i look for? Things like hypnagogic hallucinations, astral sight, a feeling of slow movement, a feeling that everything has 'changed'. All of these are indicators that things have shifted. Voices also help, although they happen before I'm actually ready to separate.
i can stay on the brink of sleep (no mind talking) for like 40 min i just get fed up and go to sleep? Only if you have already practiced trance, energy raising, energy body loosening and more trance. Then go to noticing, with a quiet mind, and if it seems to last a long time, listen to your earhiss.

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Thanks again

Yep ithink im gonna try and focous on enegy work a little more