[en-druzhba]

Hello every one im new to this site and astral projection i have made it out of body four times and had two what i would call full projections. About 30 min before my most recent full projection i vaporized ( Inhaled the vapor without burning the solid matter) a good amount of chamomile which just put me in a very relaxed state but had little affect on my conscious awareness my projection was very nice and it was very sunny outside. I was wondering if this was safe to do i know from astral dynamics that drugs that falsely/cheat induce projections are to be avoided but what about things that just relax your body and mind so that i can project easier? Any help will be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

[borasolit]

Lol,I drink camomille tea regulary.Wow,I wonder if it helps.

[22paseabelldaps]

Chamomile isn't a drug it's an herb. Chamomile contains no caffeine.. I'd say that having a cup of chamomile tea would be beneficial to relaxation. Has to be one of my favorite teas.

[gernica]

now that's where you're wrong mister! practically everything we put in ourselves is a drug. definition of drug = anything that changes bodily functions except food or water lmao. herb = drug
only difference is that the usually amounts people take aren't at dangerous levels and are less addictive. If people started taking spoonfuls of chamomile and it became addictive i'm sure people would consider calling it a drug. anyways anything in moderation is good, if the body can produce it without drugs then even better!

[Dyerryjex]

The notice wasn't about the chamomile. It was about illegal drugs. It was removed by Oliver.

[paypaltoegold1]

I removed SirEskimooo's post and replaced it with the warning.

Oliver

[seervezex]

now that's where you're wrong mister! practically everything we put in ourselves is a drug. definition of drug = anything that changes bodily functions except food or water lmao. herb = drug

I don't know if such a loose definition is practical. Things that I put into my body that isn't food or water, but changes my bodily functions include:sunlight, knowledge, air, love, divine energies; when I was in kindergarten I ate clay, playdough, glue, etc. Just a couple thoughts.

also, i consume addictive things that have overwhelmingly good health benefits, and I believe that labeling them as drugs has given them a bad name. Take coffee for instance. if you have heart disease or diabetes, it could potentially be bad for you (although most of that is hypothetical information that is not entirely proven). On the other hand, it is a legitimate and extremely effective way to counter Anthrax poisoning. One 20oz cup of coffee has more antioxidants in it that most westerners get in the rest of their daily diet COMBINED. it is a powerful anti-carcinogen therefore proven to fight and prevent many types of cancers especially skin cancer. It improves memory, analytical and creative thinking, motor function (including sports performance). it is a great way to fight headaches...the best anti-headache medications on the market all have lots of caffeine in them. Of course, it can cause some terrible headaches (if you miss your caffeine dose

Anyway, i'm sorry for ranting. I know that your definition is historically valid and i'm not disputing that, i'm just saying that for practical purposes, i try to draw some distinctions.

[Dyerryjex]

Take coffee for instance. if you have heart disease or diabetes, it could potentially be bad for you (although most of that is hypothetical information that is not entirely proven). On the other hand, it is a legitimate and extremely effective way to counter Anthrax poisoning. One 20oz cup of coffee has more antioxidants in it that most westerners get in the rest of their daily diet COMBINED. it is a powerful anti-carcinogen therefore proven to fight and prevent many types of cancers especially skin cancer. It improves memory, analytical and creative thinking, motor function (including sports performance). it is a great way to fight headaches...the best anti-headache medications on the market all have lots of caffeine in them. Of course, it can cause some terrible headaches (if you miss your caffeine dose I knew I drank coffee for a reason! But seriously, I'm a coffee drinker and have both BCC and SCC, so I'd say that in my case it didn't work. Or it would be worse if I didn't drink coffee.

[lerobudrse]

also, i consume addictive things that have overwhelmingly good health benefits, and I believe that labeling them as drugs has given them a bad name.

No, trying to justify laws outlawing ordinary wild plants and other natural substances is what's given drugs a bad name. The largest difference between tobacco/alcohol/caffeine, and various illegal drugs, is that the former were enjoyed by a significant proportion of white men at the time the drug-outlawing craze swept over the world. Nothing more.

[Dyerryjex]

Ok, this topic is about the possibility of using Chamomile as an aid to projection, it is not about the drug policies instituted by the government or governments. If this goes the direction of
'discussion about the relative merits of drug use' it breaks forum rules (regardless of their perceived fairness) and I will lock the topic.
Admin Notice.